@LoafOfBread its fine im just confused as to what you want from me, the first message said look at my stuka but then you sent me a link to a corsair and now you are saying you wanted me to look at your yak? I did the 2 tone on your corsair but proper camo takes time and planning. As I mentioned on your corsair the parts need altering to be 0 mass and drag so when you duplicate to form the 2 tone to start with it doesn't double weight and drag. After that you need to build the parts in a way that let's you panel on them, flat sections work best so the less awkward the shape the more benefit you get from the camo shapes. In essence you can't just build something and then go ,"im going to put camo on this" it has to be planned. See my camo guide here if you want ideas. Don't get me wrong, im trying to help but I only have so many hours in a day to do anything myself.
@Dimkal Thanks, glad you like it. Oh there is definately room for variants with this one, first im going to have to spend some time and rebuild the fuselage with panels and a working cargo door/bay so i can drop a jeep or 2 =) Then as you say there could be a special forces variant as well including all the biuts you mentioned as well as adding the refueling probe, possibly remake the cockpit area, obs blisters, etc. I was also thinking of a larger variant (more A400 size) with 4 wings / sets of rotors but that will take some work so will finish some more other builds first.
@NotErwin holy cow, how many forum posts have you got =) I think anytime that forum posts exceed number of builds is bad. Your builds are presentable though, just build some more.
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook no idea really as the fuselage and wing are based on the Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster with the cockpit based on a Jet Provost and the fins based on a B24 =)
What do you deem to be underperforming on it? I originally had it accelerating faster and having a much higher top speed but on reflection this wasnt accurate to what i was trying to replicate. Or have i completely missed the point =)
@X4JB yeah I do the same but when its bearing completion I have everything nudged back in to check movement and add the actual flight stuff and thats when the problems start occurring.
@F104Deathtrap it also helps if you shelve a build for a while, if you can remember what month you where building something you can find it again:) I can never remember the actual build name.
@MethaManAerospace thanks for the reply, its good to discuss these things. I do tend to make the builds slightly nose heavy, as you say with keyboard inputs its all or nothing so you need to reduce the rotation around col - easiest way is move cog forward a bit. It also harks back to my rc model aircraft were you start off with the build being nose heavy to ensure its stable before fine tuning it (nothing worse than getting your 100hr+ build to the field and watching it fly like a sycamore leaf into the ground on first flight...)
This game, in my opinion, is only really missing the 4 axis on blocks to allow a twist, if we had that we could much more easily make aero shaped wings etc without using the triangle method which is time consuming and not exact.
@MethaManAerospace tha for the comments. This one was a bit heavy on wing load but otherwise relatively close to a "real" aircraft but I found that acceleration was unrealistic thus having to play with drag and thrust etc.
I always build with drag and mass off then add it where required, this stops random autoroll and other effects that come with the game calculations. It also speeds up load times (im pretty sure it was eternaldarkness that told me about this a good few years ago.)
In regards to dihedral etc. I fo use it but only on builds that would benefit, check out my ww1 builds, most have dihedral on them as that's period accurate, more modern aircraft tend not to have much dihedral and tend to be horizontal or have anhedral (i white often use anhedral on tail planes like the first etc.) Its horses for courses really.
As for thicker wing ribs at the root as opposed to the tip, I use that on quite a lot of wings (look st my weasel build for instance) however I do sacrifice this bit if I want to add a complicated colour scheme as panelling becomes more complicated otherwise.
@mikoyanster no worries it was my bad, i didnt fully read the spec before starting on it. I built custom radial engines will cowls which are 259 parts a piece, x2 and you have 518 parts before I add the rest of the plane lol.
@BagelPlane but doesn't that just get really complicated when you want say 5 degree pitch at 30% speed an 10% roll at 40% speed? 2 rotators everytime for me.
@ThomasRoderick yeah, its what happens when everything is panelled and its an open cockpit and engine cowl as well so I had to fut a radial engine and detailed cockpit... I'm worn out.
Xml edit all parts other than landing gear to have zero mass and drag then when the build is nearly done add mass and drag to one central part. Also pay attention to centre of mass and lift.
Holy crap, the rudder actually works, the gun actually has the handle moving when firing and there are so many awesome bits you cant see at first glance... V nice build. PS I may feel the need to contact you at some point to nick some bits (credited of course) =)
@Grob0s0VBRa its stands for whatever the user wants it to 😃 I already had lettering for us airforce so I just switched the for around, changed the c to a g and added and l. Civilian uk codes a 1 letter dash 4 letters so it worked
@BroAeronautics @BlackhattAircraft Thanks guys, its a variant of my Wasp build but dont worry, its not a recolour by any means, loads of new bits and a LOT more work.
dont use "upload with screenshots" just use the ingame designer suite by WNP, you then just add the screenshot you want to use as a background and "photo" that. The upload with screenshots mod needs removing, its massively unstable.
Aw, that means I'm down 1 upvote on my builds now... I just hope he gets the result he wants from this, no doubt he will still be building stuff offline as its a hard habit to break.
@Tang0five I dont know if you have already accumulated some funky tree commands (or are a funky tree magician yourself) but the following are what i use most often (please note i havnt written any of these): for doors that are shut then open to let gear up then shut again.
abs(rate(smooth(GearDown, 0.5)))
for doors that delay retract i.e already down.
clamp01(smooth(-GearDown, 1.0))
@AWESOMENESS360 nah its just a display scheme, it's the Croatian flag. For normal military operations everything is a shade of boring grey.
+1Try this falkenwut did a challenge for just what you described.
+1@Boygameit strange as i made this up, there isnt a real world version...
+1@LoafOfBread its fine im just confused as to what you want from me, the first message said look at my stuka but then you sent me a link to a corsair and now you are saying you wanted me to look at your yak? I did the 2 tone on your corsair but proper camo takes time and planning. As I mentioned on your corsair the parts need altering to be 0 mass and drag so when you duplicate to form the 2 tone to start with it doesn't double weight and drag. After that you need to build the parts in a way that let's you panel on them, flat sections work best so the less awkward the shape the more benefit you get from the camo shapes. In essence you can't just build something and then go ,"im going to put camo on this" it has to be planned. See my camo guide here if you want ideas. Don't get me wrong, im trying to help but I only have so many hours in a day to do anything myself.
+1@Dimkal Thanks, glad you like it. Oh there is definately room for variants with this one, first im going to have to spend some time and rebuild the fuselage with panels and a working cargo door/bay so i can drop a jeep or 2 =) Then as you say there could be a special forces variant as well including all the biuts you mentioned as well as adding the refueling probe, possibly remake the cockpit area, obs blisters, etc. I was also thinking of a larger variant (more A400 size) with 4 wings / sets of rotors but that will take some work so will finish some more other builds first.
+1@NotErwin holy cow, how many forum posts have you got =) I think anytime that forum posts exceed number of builds is bad. Your builds are presentable though, just build some more.
+1Definitely going down, I've had loads of builds of late struggle to get 20 upvotes (thanks though to the people who did upvote)
+1@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook no idea really as the fuselage and wing are based on the Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster with the cockpit based on a Jet Provost and the fins based on a B24 =)
+1What do you deem to be underperforming on it? I originally had it accelerating faster and having a much higher top speed but on reflection this wasnt accurate to what i was trying to replicate. Or have i completely missed the point =)
+1@JaeBeansS bendy roundels and loads of detailing bits etc :)
+1@X4JB yeah I do the same but when its bearing completion I have everything nudged back in to check movement and add the actual flight stuff and thats when the problems start occurring.
+1Looks tidy, reminds me a bit of my pusher engine bomber here
+1James planes made some but don't know if they are mobile friendly.
+1@ThomasRoderick yeah it was getting that way so I stopped adding :) plus once I get over 1200 the game seems to lag a bit (not a pc issue for sure)
+1@Sovietstrike333 Thanks, how did you find this after so much time?
+1@BusterShortWolf Its an autogyro mixed with a WW1 fighter =) fun isnt it.
+1@F104Deathtrap it also helps if you shelve a build for a while, if you can remember what month you where building something you can find it again:) I can never remember the actual build name.
+1Similar to what I do, I start with the date and then 1.0 followed by 1.1 etc. Saved my bacon a few times.
+1@ThomasRoderick no worries, im building lots of things but a drone isn't one :)
+1@AzureCorp thanks for the comment, I don't really have much time for a co-op build at present, struggling to have time to work on my own stuff...
+1@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook its completely different apart from the bits that aren't.. :)
+1@GrizzlitnCFSP you made a much better job of it than I did, might have to revisit the design myself:)
+1@Belloaka thanks, old one this.
+1@MethaManAerospace thanks for the reply, its good to discuss these things. I do tend to make the builds slightly nose heavy, as you say with keyboard inputs its all or nothing so you need to reduce the rotation around col - easiest way is move cog forward a bit. It also harks back to my rc model aircraft were you start off with the build being nose heavy to ensure its stable before fine tuning it (nothing worse than getting your 100hr+ build to the field and watching it fly like a sycamore leaf into the ground on first flight...)
This game, in my opinion, is only really missing the 4 axis on blocks to allow a twist, if we had that we could much more easily make aero shaped wings etc without using the triangle method which is time consuming and not exact.
+1@MethaManAerospace tha for the comments. This one was a bit heavy on wing load but otherwise relatively close to a "real" aircraft but I found that acceleration was unrealistic thus having to play with drag and thrust etc.
I always build with drag and mass off then add it where required, this stops random autoroll and other effects that come with the game calculations. It also speeds up load times (im pretty sure it was eternaldarkness that told me about this a good few years ago.)
In regards to dihedral etc. I fo use it but only on builds that would benefit, check out my ww1 builds, most have dihedral on them as that's period accurate, more modern aircraft tend not to have much dihedral and tend to be horizontal or have anhedral (i white often use anhedral on tail planes like the first etc.) Its horses for courses really.
As for thicker wing ribs at the root as opposed to the tip, I use that on quite a lot of wings (look st my weasel build for instance) however I do sacrifice this bit if I want to add a complicated colour scheme as panelling becomes more complicated otherwise.
+1@brians1209 Thanks, much easier and more accurate to copy and paste =)
+1@mikoyanster no worries it was my bad, i didnt fully read the spec before starting on it. I built custom radial engines will cowls which are 259 parts a piece, x2 and you have 518 parts before I add the rest of the plane lol.
+1@BagelPlane but doesn't that just get really complicated when you want say 5 degree pitch at 30% speed an 10% roll at 40% speed? 2 rotators everytime for me.
+1@ThomasRoderick yeah, its what happens when everything is panelled and its an open cockpit and engine cowl as well so I had to fut a radial engine and detailed cockpit... I'm worn out.
+1@Questionable1 lol, thanks. I enjoyed this build, I like it when I can bring some colour to a build.
+1Xml edit all parts other than landing gear to have zero mass and drag then when the build is nearly done add mass and drag to one central part. Also pay attention to centre of mass and lift.
+1@Pita your German corsair got more than this :) I might go back to 30 part builds lol.
+1That looks epic, amazing build. I will have to do an airliner one of these days.
+1Holy crap, the rudder actually works, the gun actually has the handle moving when firing and there are so many awesome bits you cant see at first glance... V nice build. PS I may feel the need to contact you at some point to nick some bits (credited of course) =)
+1That engine / cowl looks awesome.
+1@F104Deathtrap Thats due to having hundreds more builds =) Its like the download to upvote ratio.
+1@Tang0five yep, in beta at present but I've not encountered any issues so I would imagine it will become live soon.
+1@Grob0s0VBRa its stands for whatever the user wants it to 😃 I already had lettering for us airforce so I just switched the for around, changed the c to a g and added and l. Civilian uk codes a 1 letter dash 4 letters so it worked
+1@BroAeronautics @BlackhattAircraft Thanks guys, its a variant of my Wasp build but dont worry, its not a recolour by any means, loads of new bits and a LOT more work.
+1@F104Deathtrap Blasphemy? its an export variant of my Wasp =)
+1dont use "upload with screenshots" just use the ingame designer suite by WNP, you then just add the screenshot you want to use as a background and "photo" that. The upload with screenshots mod needs removing, its massively unstable.
+1@L0RR3B0RR3 Thanks, I just use Nvidia Gforce experience and then upload the screenshots to discord, use the discord link to post in here.
+1Aw, that means I'm down 1 upvote on my builds now... I just hope he gets the result he wants from this, no doubt he will still be building stuff offline as its a hard habit to break.
+1@NAD Thanks, stay tuned for more "Whifs" I think i have turned into the Whif factory at present, I shall stear clear of pesky replicas for a while.
+1how do i find the caps button...
+1@Falkenwut thanks, glad you enjoyed my entries.
+1Xml edit the rotators, remove the -1 command and replace it with 0
+1@NAD thanks, no need to worry about that though, I think that even if I just finish my incomplete builds it will last the rest of the year :)
+1@Tang0five I dont know if you have already accumulated some funky tree commands (or are a funky tree magician yourself) but the following are what i use most often (please note i havnt written any of these): for doors that are shut then open to let gear up then shut again.
abs(rate(smooth(GearDown, 0.5)))
for doors that delay retract i.e already down.
clamp01(smooth(-GearDown, 1.0))
Engine 5% startup
+1((0.95 * Throttle) + 0.05) * (IAS / TAS)
@Blue0Bull congrats, Blue0RedBull now :)
+1