@Mousewithamachinegun122 eh, it's just kids. You can't expect kids to be rational. I'm on pretty good terms now, years later, with the very worst of them.
Former moderator here.
Being a moderator sort of kills the pleasure of the game and the community, as you are forced to interact with its least bright elements. Not to mention that moderators are often people who have been in this community for years already, and are somewhat tired of it. So yeah, most of their comments will be stock comments.
As for moderators wasting hours of their time, I don't think they do. Back in my day, we did, but now I'm seeing serious offenses and dramas being ignored for days, so I'd say there's not a lot of time being spent on it.
Either way, they are spending their spare time, unpaid, to try to keep this site somewhat clean. Just say "thanks" and quit whining.
@LJh1 @Graingy trouble is that you guys don't know what to look for. A build that has had effort invested into it will have effort invested into description as well. There will also be some imperfections typical of inexperienced builders. It's difficult to explain, but when you have been here for as long as I have, you can see a copy from a mile away 9/10 times.
Oh, and I also follow most of the builders whose builds usually get copied by noobs, so I tend to get a familiar feeling when I see a copy.
@LJh1 I disagree. A low ranking user with a good build that is not based on an existing one usually grows quickly.
@Hafidz333 try spending some time to make builds that can compete with the best. And not by just editing existing builds. Learn how it's done and make something actually good. Builds that score well generally look like real planes, have very realistic performance, interesting features, innovative techniques... You have blocky planes and edits of other people's builds. If you're aiming for upvotes, frankly, the only advice I can give is "git gud".
Sincerely, someone who reached platinum less than three months after making an account.
It's perfect now (:
By the way, mentioning people in description won't send them a notification and will not be a clickable link. To make a clickable link, write [text] (URL of the page).
It looks a lot better with more opacity on the wings. One thing I've noticed though is that you're not using smoothing. The fuselage is quite smooth on the real thing. You also have two major issues. The roundel on the left wing falls off, and both elevators are moving in the same direction, not opposing each other.
Very nice build, though it has a few minor issues. Cameras all auto-center, which makes looking at the levers you want to operate nearly impossible on PC. I'd also recommend using a button to open the door instead of a lever.
The plane rolls to the right due to CoM being offset to the right. Fixing CoM might actually have adverse effect though, as drag is also off-center. I'd suggest building without drag on all parts, and then adding drag to only one or to large parts on the centerline to avoid that problem on future builds. Also, trim does almost nothing. Trim authority should be somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of the pitch authority.
On the positive note, the build is beautifully sculpted, smooth, everything works, wings are very nice... Overall, I enjoyed flying it.
Why don't you just post unfinished version as unlisted? You are spamming my jet stream, and jet streams of everyone who's following you by posting everything as public.
As per the rules of this website, "It is okay to download someone else's airplane, make some tweaks, and re-upload a new variation.
However, if your variation does not offer any improvements over the existing airplane, then it may be removed.
If you are circumventing the predecessor/successor system, then you will be banned. Never upload a successor as an original design; give credit to the designer of its predecessor."
Why not make it maneuverable? These things were quite maneuverable. You just need a large vertical wing near CoM to provide directional stability, another one in the tail, and some actual control surfaces. Also, it should be steerable on the pitch axis via both ballast trimming and elevators.
Really nice build for its part count. Cockpit could have been a bit more realistic, but it's usable. Maybe a bit more opacity on the wings. Performance are close to how I'd expect the real thing to fly.
By the way, you have a typo in the description. It says "WWII".
While this certainly is a nice build, randomly tagging people isn't a ay to get any respect and recognition in this community. It's spammy, and, per the rules, it falls under begging for upvotes. Please don't do it again.
You should probably write a description and put a few pictures into it. Many people cannot download a build with this many parts. If your English isn't good enough, maybe ask a friend to do it.
Otherwise, beautiful ship. Very well done.
Andrew has actually been replaced by an automation back when I was a moderator. I never found out what happened to the real Andrew. I guess automaton malfunctioned yesterday and they're cleaning up the mess now.
@Kangy I guess it would be more like a competition with monetary reward for one or two mods that get added to the game annually. People would keep making mods, and the best ones would get a reward that's not just internet points that everyone with any kind of skill to their name stopped caring about years ago.
Besides, if you're gonna be making mods for SP, you probably already have SP and don't need a steam key. Alternative would be gift cards.
Why not cash prize for the mods that get implemented into the game? You have to motivate people to commit themselves to developing things. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
At any rate, that's for Andrew to decide once he sobers up.
(I guess that's behind this sudden teaser comment and his temp ban)
@thekingofgods I'm glad you like it. It's unlikely I'll be posting cold war ships anytime soon, but I do have something interesting under construction.
I was trying to make custom propellers for one of a build I'm working on, and couldn't figure it out. Then I remembered you did a great custom prop for this one. I didn't take any of your parts, but I did adjust the input to suit my needs.
@Graingy I relaxed the standard because I had some time left and decided to rate those few builds that didn't meet the requirements but didn't entirely miss the topic.
You used to be a shipbuilder, right? Well, ChasingHorizon left, so did Halpas. I now run PortSP, Discord server for shipbuilding on SP that ChasingHorizon started. You can find it in the pinned forum if you're not a member already.
Anyhow, welcome back.
@ComradeInCommune back in my day, ban evasion resulted in multiole months on the main and permaban on the alt. Second offense was permaban on main IP ban.
In this community, you have to do something really bad to get a ban of any noteworthy length. These new moderators are even more lenient with that than I ever was. If the guy got permabanned, it must have been earned twice over.
@Densja if I'm not mistaken, that would be my friend @BogdanX. Unfortunately, he deleted his account a few months ago, so your best bet would be modifying this build back to a single plane.
@SunnyOmori a piece of advice from a guy that's been with this community for eight years now: this kind of stunts might earn you some credit with the newer members of the community, but no lasting reputation. My advice to you is to start making builds, and good ones at that, if you want people here to recognize you. For random chatting and socializing, use many discord server linked in the pinned "List Of Discord Servers" forum post.
If you want to actually play the game, you can learn from other builders, both by exploring their builds, and by asking them how they did certain things. If you're just here for internet points and cheap validation, you'll find Facebook a much better alternative.
Congratulations on reaching Gold, @Sano24.
+1Amazing build, and great presentation. I really dig the poster. Good work.
+2@Mousewithamachinegun122 eh, it's just kids. You can't expect kids to be rational. I'm on pretty good terms now, years later, with the very worst of them.
+1@Mousewithamachinegun122 fun stuff. Believe it or not, if you're doing it right, you get litteral death threats XD
+2Former moderator here.
+7Being a moderator sort of kills the pleasure of the game and the community, as you are forced to interact with its least bright elements. Not to mention that moderators are often people who have been in this community for years already, and are somewhat tired of it. So yeah, most of their comments will be stock comments.
As for moderators wasting hours of their time, I don't think they do. Back in my day, we did, but now I'm seeing serious offenses and dramas being ignored for days, so I'd say there's not a lot of time being spent on it.
Either way, they are spending their spare time, unpaid, to try to keep this site somewhat clean. Just say "thanks" and quit whining.
@LJh1 @Graingy trouble is that you guys don't know what to look for. A build that has had effort invested into it will have effort invested into description as well. There will also be some imperfections typical of inexperienced builders. It's difficult to explain, but when you have been here for as long as I have, you can see a copy from a mile away 9/10 times.
+4Oh, and I also follow most of the builders whose builds usually get copied by noobs, so I tend to get a familiar feeling when I see a copy.
@LJh1 I disagree. A low ranking user with a good build that is not based on an existing one usually grows quickly.
+2@Hafidz333 try spending some time to make builds that can compete with the best. And not by just editing existing builds. Learn how it's done and make something actually good. Builds that score well generally look like real planes, have very realistic performance, interesting features, innovative techniques... You have blocky planes and edits of other people's builds. If you're aiming for upvotes, frankly, the only advice I can give is "git gud".
Sincerely, someone who reached platinum less than three months after making an account.
It's perfect now (:
+1By the way, mentioning people in description won't send them a notification and will not be a clickable link. To make a clickable link, write [text] (URL of the page).
It looks a lot better with more opacity on the wings. One thing I've noticed though is that you're not using smoothing. The fuselage is quite smooth on the real thing. You also have two major issues. The roundel on the left wing falls off, and both elevators are moving in the same direction, not opposing each other.
Why not add Malyutka missiles? Our gazelles are compatible with Malyutka missiles. Also, with Kornet missiles now after the modernization.
+2Very nice build, though it has a few minor issues. Cameras all auto-center, which makes looking at the levers you want to operate nearly impossible on PC. I'd also recommend using a button to open the door instead of a lever.
The plane rolls to the right due to CoM being offset to the right. Fixing CoM might actually have adverse effect though, as drag is also off-center. I'd suggest building without drag on all parts, and then adding drag to only one or to large parts on the centerline to avoid that problem on future builds. Also, trim does almost nothing. Trim authority should be somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of the pitch authority.
On the positive note, the build is beautifully sculpted, smooth, everything works, wings are very nice... Overall, I enjoyed flying it.
+2Why don't you just post unfinished version as unlisted? You are spamming my jet stream, and jet streams of everyone who's following you by posting everything as public.
Another great one. Good job Sano.
+2As per the rules of this website, "It is okay to download someone else's airplane, make some tweaks, and re-upload a new variation.
However, if your variation does not offer any improvements over the existing airplane, then it may be removed.
If you are circumventing the predecessor/successor system, then you will be banned. Never upload a successor as an original design; give credit to the designer of its predecessor."
@Monarchii oh, I didn't know it's for that challenge. Still, could have used gyro for better turning. Good work on the PID controller though.
+1Why not make it maneuverable? These things were quite maneuverable. You just need a large vertical wing near CoM to provide directional stability, another one in the tail, and some actual control surfaces. Also, it should be steerable on the pitch axis via both ballast trimming and elevators.
+1Another chubby little RJ marvel. Very fun build. Good work mate.
+2It's missing the star of David and a few other notable symbols, but it's interesting nonetheless.
+2If you're taking build suggestions, I'd like to see Vickers F.B.9 in your style.
+1Really nice build for its part count. Cockpit could have been a bit more realistic, but it's usable. Maybe a bit more opacity on the wings. Performance are close to how I'd expect the real thing to fly.
+3By the way, you have a typo in the description. It says "WWII".
@ccc12345 no worries, and no need to apologize. Just don't do it again, and everything is fine.
+1While this certainly is a nice build, randomly tagging people isn't a ay to get any respect and recognition in this community. It's spammy, and, per the rules, it falls under begging for upvotes. Please don't do it again.
You should probably write a description and put a few pictures into it. Many people cannot download a build with this many parts. If your English isn't good enough, maybe ask a friend to do it.
+4Otherwise, beautiful ship. Very well done.
@Numbers2 SP and SR2 accounts are connected. A ban on one platform extends to the other. Or so it used to be, if they haven't changed it.
+1Andrew has actually been replaced by an automation back when I was a moderator. I never found out what happened to the real Andrew. I guess automaton malfunctioned yesterday and they're cleaning up the mess now.
+1@Mousewithamachinegun123 if you want to make hyperlink, use parentheses. These: "()". Not "{}".
+1@Kangy I guess it would be more like a competition with monetary reward for one or two mods that get added to the game annually. People would keep making mods, and the best ones would get a reward that's not just internet points that everyone with any kind of skill to their name stopped caring about years ago.
+2Besides, if you're gonna be making mods for SP, you probably already have SP and don't need a steam key. Alternative would be gift cards.
Why not cash prize for the mods that get implemented into the game? You have to motivate people to commit themselves to developing things. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
+4At any rate, that's for Andrew to decide once he sobers up.
(I guess that's behind this sudden teaser comment and his temp ban)
Happy birthday. Lovely build. I just tested it. Very well made, parts perfectly fitted, good use of part-saving techniques.
+2Very nice build. Very pleasant to fly, even on my phone. Looks great for its part count too.
+1@thekingofgods I'm glad you like it. It's unlikely I'll be posting cold war ships anytime soon, but I do have something interesting under construction.
I was trying to make custom propellers for one of a build I'm working on, and couldn't figure it out. Then I remembered you did a great custom prop for this one. I didn't take any of your parts, but I did adjust the input to suit my needs.
@Graingy I relaxed the standard because I had some time left and decided to rate those few builds that didn't meet the requirements but didn't entirely miss the topic.
+1@TeodoroG
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Congratulations. Rewards will be issued soon (:
Amazing build Dim. Looks perfect, loads of details, great proportion... Good work.
+1@Trainzo you're welcome (:
This is brilliant work, @Glucki. Very detailed, perfect shape, lots of moving parts... I love it.
@ccc12345 sure.
+1You used to be a shipbuilder, right? Well, ChasingHorizon left, so did Halpas. I now run PortSP, Discord server for shipbuilding on SP that ChasingHorizon started. You can find it in the pinned forum if you're not a member already.
Anyhow, welcome back.
@ComradeInCommune back in my day, ban evasion resulted in multiole months on the main and permaban on the alt. Second offense was permaban on main IP ban.
In this community, you have to do something really bad to get a ban of any noteworthy length. These new moderators are even more lenient with that than I ever was. If the guy got permabanned, it must have been earned twice over.
+5@Densja unfortunately, I've lost contact with him when he deleted account. Hasn't been online anywhere.
@Densja if I'm not mistaken, that would be my friend @BogdanX. Unfortunately, he deleted his account a few months ago, so your best bet would be modifying this build back to a single plane.
+1Very impressive wave motion simulation.
+1@SunnyOmori oh, by the way, be sure to read the rules.
@4planes that would fall under the "abuse of the point system" rule.
@SunnyOmori a piece of advice from a guy that's been with this community for eight years now: this kind of stunts might earn you some credit with the newer members of the community, but no lasting reputation. My advice to you is to start making builds, and good ones at that, if you want people here to recognize you. For random chatting and socializing, use many discord server linked in the pinned "List Of Discord Servers" forum post.
+1If you want to actually play the game, you can learn from other builders, both by exploring their builds, and by asking them how they did certain things. If you're just here for internet points and cheap validation, you'll find Facebook a much better alternative.