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Sa-2 Samson

8,973 ZWLenning  3.0 years ago
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Sa-2 Samson

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at a measly 2815 parts, i am proud to say that I have exceeded the capability of my computer to the point at which I can't even test the main version properly. I believe it all works, if not please tell me and I will try to fix the issues. But on the bright side, I believe this to be (one of?) the first fully functioning 'glass' cockpits in simpleplanes, equipped with many features that will be described in image somewhere below. Please note: all of the features in this build have been done before, but I believe I am the first to combine them in this way.


Overview

The Sa-2 Samson is a medium utility helicopter from the movie 'avatar'. Comparable in size and role to the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter (though a lot slower, and capable of carrying less armament), it is mostly designed for moving small numbers of troops and supplies into specific, hard to access locations that conventional troop suppliers would not be able to manage. It is also capable of lifting more than its own weight, with a maximum payload of 9000kg of things. This gives an MTOW of over 15 tonnes.

The observant among you will recognise that this is Samson 16, the main samson used in the movie. I am, for obvious reasons, not building a replica of it after it was blown up.
Here is Samson 16:


Features

  • functioning map
  • functioning enemy location radar tracker
  • main mfd containing all associated things
  • engine startup sequence (hence engine delay on activating)
  • hyper stable hover

Armament

This Samson contains a modified loadout so both air and ground targets can be targeted with missiles. Allegedly this is not what would have been used IRL. Also, the fire rate of the cannons is so ludicrously high that it exceeds the maximum fire rate attainable in simpleplanes.
- 2x 'Hydra' .50cal machine guns
- 2x A-65 AAM (fictional)
- 2x 'Hornet' AGM


Controls:

They are weird, bear with me

  • AG1 = Enable missiles
  • AG2 = Enable cannons
  • AG3 = Wipers
  • AG4 = Nav lights
  • AG5 = Engine 1 start
  • AG6 = Engine 2 start
  • AG7 = Cockpit lighting
  • AG8 = Cockpit doors
  • VTOL up = Throttle
  • Throttle = Coll. lever
  • Trim up = Winch down
  • Landing Gear = Winch toggle

Lower part versions:

  • 1998 parts, this version essentially just has glass cockpit functions and displays removed.
  • 1638 parts, this version has the cabin and some of the cockpit (such as rear seats) removed.
  • 1172 parts, this version has the entire helicopter stripped down to the shell and the cockpit, which contains only flight controls such as joystick etc.
  • 776 parts, this version is a fictional Earth version with wheels, the rest of the cockpit, the winch and the vine strike kit removed.

Notes

  • good luck getting this thing to pitch/roll past 65 degrees. its really weird, and its not caused by the gyro
  • flies best with mouse control or tilt
  • realistic start sequence: activate AG8/7, then VTOL up before activating AG6. allow to spin up to speed, then activate AG5 and 4. then, when all rotors are spinning, you may fly
  • theoretically capable of carrying 9000kg, but I have only tested up to 5000 due to lag
  • main panel labelled
  • upper panel labelled (some central switches also work)
  • if you can't see the text, open the image in a new tab.

Credits:

  • WIZARD2017: map aesthetics. I have shifted Krakabola position slightly and made my own codes (which tbf turned out the same as WIZARD's), so I apologise to them if I messed it up!
  • BagelPlane: enemy position radar.
  • PioThePioneer: digital altimeter and speedometer, I was too lazy to work out the code myself.
  • AN2Felllla: nice analogue airspeed, altitude and artificial horizons. I wasn't able to make my own at that point due to horrific amounts of lag and my lack of attention span.
  • a mysterious fellow who wishes only to be known as "Ash" also did a few screenshots for me, including the one I'm using as the main thumnail.

Thanks to all!


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General Characteristics

  • Predecessor Sa-2
  • Successors 2 airplane(s)
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 57.7ft (17.6m)
  • Length 58.6ft (17.9m)
  • Height 19.2ft (5.9m)
  • Empty Weight 12,998lbs (5,895kg)
  • Loaded Weight 15,074lbs (6,837kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 13.432
  • Wing Loading 214.4lbs/ft2 (1,046.9kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 70.3ft2 (6.5m2)
  • Drag Points 15732

Parts

  • Number of Parts 2815
  • Control Surfaces 1
  • Performance Cost 10,474
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    Pin this|

    MOVIE ACURRATE AVATAR HELICOPTER

    Pinned 3.0 years ago
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    25.7k Cannabis

    ITS FEATURED!

    Pinned 3.0 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    Thanks for gold and kind words all!
    Edit: and 69 upvotes :)

    100 YAY

    Pinned 3.0 years ago
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    15.6k FickleGhost

    @ZWLenning OK😭

    2 months ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @FickleGhost I didn't have any ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

    There are a lot of pictures that get close enough though. That made it easier, so proportionally it's pretty good. It's about as accurate in shape as most reasonable replicas.

    2 months ago
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    15.6k FickleGhost

    @ZWLenning No, I mean the reference to sa2 on what website did you find it

    2 months ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @FickleGhost set photo as blueprint in designer, and take craft screenshot as normal :)

    2 months ago
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    15.6k FickleGhost

    I was wondering where you got the three views for reference

    2 months ago
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    "Let's go, Samson!" - Filia (Skullgirls)

    1.5 years ago
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    @ZWLenning but it's not helicopter it's the pilot.

    1.6 years ago
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    This is beyond cool.
    This is the most advanced build of this type I have ever seen on any website.
    Props and an upvote from me. (Pin if want)

    +1 1.7 years ago
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    @ZWLenning okay

    1.7 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @ajanie06

    honestly a hard one - the samson is a little like the black hawk which is a transport as opposed to a combat heli, but I would imagine that tech of the future might have more means of dealing with the Hind.
    then again, the hind does have a manually aimed gimballing cannon - so i think the hind would win as it only has to turn the gun instead of the entire heli

    1.7 years ago
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    @ZWLenning which helicopter would win the sa2 samson or the Russian mi 24 hind.

    1.7 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @ajanie06 go ahead

    1.7 years ago
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    @ZWLenning I got a question for you

    1.7 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @ajanie06 I did my best :P

    other than general simpleplanes limitations of the time, the biggest inaccuracy I've found is that the nose and cockpit are slightly too long. Accidental but it ended up looking better like that so idc really and I can't be bothered to remake it yet lmao

    1.8 years ago
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    I'll give it a 10/10 Accurate

    +2 1.9 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @Haytham115
    I... I do not right now
    I'm currently working on a Rafale (slowly) but contact me if you have discord (dark_chilli_choccies#7069) and we can discuss the Heli there

    2.7 years ago
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    Ok so you have built it cause if you did I think i can make the ockpit@ZWLenning

    2.7 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @Haytham115 on my list, but I think its slightly more difficult due to a more complex shape and fewer schematics so it might not have a cockpit

    2.7 years ago
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    Could you make the attack one

    +1 2.7 years ago
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    Im on mobile and i can't be gentle my hand is 1000000x stronger than godzilla tail

    +1 2.9 years ago
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    8,973 ZWLenning

    @jaynnie071621 yeah, you need to be very gentle with it xD
    It does self-right in roll though which can help

    2.9 years ago
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    @ZWLenning also very unstable

    2.9 years ago
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