@Viper3000ad In SP, wings generate lift when they move. Normally, such motion is caused by engine thrust, but in this build, the lift-inducing motion is caused by pistons.
@randomusername Awesome. I might look into that! I would have to streamline the concept a lot though.
Edit: of course, I will give credit where it is due!
Thanks for asking - it’s always fun to experiment a bit. Try looking at some new cockpit shapes! It looks like you can try a sleeker, or more bulky route. Feel free to take apart any of my builds to see how their cockpits are constructed.
Addressing your core argument...
Let’s start with the important part, the 2D-Flight concept. It relies on upward force provided by a static thruster, while other static thrusters control translational motion. Gyros provide stability. Your response verifies these characteristics: ”You stole the whole idea. Prior to this build (Cyclops), every single VTOL system on SimplePlanes was based on rotating VTOL thrusters. To claim that you came up with the same idea as mine, right after I posted Cyclops, is disingenuous in the extreme.”
There are a few things to unpack here. First – the first sentence. Once again, your method of analysis begins with a conclusion, and ends with evidence. I should not need to tell you why this is logically incoherent.
Once again, I am mentioning evidence, so, lets Segway into my evidence. The 2D-VTOL concept is older than you think it is. Specifically, a flight system that automatically balanced the aircraft, and used fixed thrusters for movement had been done before, by me – just in a different game. I have mentioned it a few times before, but I did make flying vehicles in Garry’s Mod before I found SimplePlanes. Interestingly enough, I remember creating a flight system that is conceptually identical to 2D-VTOL flight years ago in GMOD. The aircraft is here.
It is, functionally speaking, a 2D-VTOL, with its conceptual framework almost perfectly aligning with my perception of what a 2D-VTOL is. It uses thrusters for translational motion, as well as an upward thruster for altitude control. It even has a mechanism that keeps it upright – it uses an invisible counterbalance to counter any random torques on the aircraft. Nifty, right? When SP 1.6 came out, I replicated the flight system that I made years ago in that other game, Garry’s mod. As Eternal said, the idea is older than BOTH of our accounts.
Since I came up with the same concept (2D-VTOL) in another game years ago, it would be foolish to assume that I am not capable of creating the same concept in a game that gives me better tools to implement the concept in question. Therefore, I can confidently state that my flight system’s concept was the result of my own work.
@Chancey21 Thanks! I record my footage in SP, then make a title screen in PowerPoint. After that. I use a free (and admittedly low-quality) video editor to trim the clip, and transition to the title slide. After that, I use an online video-to-gif converter (called ezgif) to convert the edited video into a gif.
@ThomasRoderick Thank you! I am happy to inform you that this little drone is only the start of another build that I am much more proud of. It will be uploaded within the month!
If it’s American (I learned to drive in California), then don’t worry - I remember that my nerves when learning to drive were the hardest part. Anyway, enjoy your experience! In my opinion, driving is pretty fun.
No worries. I didn’t know that the cleaver had a good enough blast radius to take down targets within 75 meters. I remember that I made a cleaver-based ATA cannon a while ago, but its function was not nearly as elegant as this one.
@Bacondoggie Thanks for asking! Each quote can be from 1 of 3 sources:
1. Song lyrics
2. Quotes from my life, in which someone said something meaningful to or about me.
3. Something that I thought of that was relevant to something happening in my life at the time.
These are often metaphors for a recent event in my life.
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The specific quote on this upload is an example of source 3. I try to match the quotes with the overall theme of the craft.
It would be awesome to see another build from you. However, only build if you want to! Going into a build without any passion will only result in an incomplete project, or a project that you’re not proud of - a waste of time, either way.
Some random parts are probably connecting. Try replacing any fuselage blocks around the rotator with something that has only one connection point (like an inlet, for example).
@Potato21 I understand where you are coming from. I believe that certain colors pair well with certain shapes. It's a pretty abstract concept, so it can be confusing.
@Viper3000ad In SP, wings generate lift when they move. Normally, such motion is caused by engine thrust, but in this build, the lift-inducing motion is caused by pistons.
+1@ThomasRoderick Thanks! It’s a really weird concept, but it’s pretty mesmerizing to fly.
+1@Roswell @CRJ900Pilot @Mod Thank you! This one was a blast to build.
+1@ThomasRoderick Yeah, it is pretty annoying. But it doesn’t affect performance!
+1@ColonelStriker Hm. What physics are you using?
+1@Stormfur They do the trick pretty well. They also work in space, too, which is very convenient.
+1@randomusername Awesome. I might look into that! I would have to streamline the concept a lot though.
+1Edit: of course, I will give credit where it is due!
Thanks for asking - it’s always fun to experiment a bit. Try looking at some new cockpit shapes! It looks like you can try a sleeker, or more bulky route. Feel free to take apart any of my builds to see how their cockpits are constructed.
+1@MDippold1995 That seems to be the case. This user did make some significant edits, but they should have used the successor system.
+1Looks wonderful! High quality builds like this don’t get posted every day - especially by bronze-ranked users.
Edit: Yeah.... spotlighting was a mistake here. 99% chance that this plane is a copy. I'm dumb.
+1@Bacondoggie Probably not in the near future. I have some cooler concepts that I need to flesh out first, then I’ll think of it!
+1@Ryn176 Thank you! I tried really hard on this little jet, so I am glad that it was good!
+1@Ryn176 Yep! But I’m still proud of this little plane.
+1Very nice. I'm not sure why I wasn't already following you - time to fix that.
+1Addressing your core argument...
+1Let’s start with the important part, the 2D-Flight concept. It relies on upward force provided by a static thruster, while other static thrusters control translational motion. Gyros provide stability. Your response verifies these characteristics:
”You stole the whole idea. Prior to this build (Cyclops), every single VTOL system on SimplePlanes was based on rotating VTOL thrusters. To claim that you came up with the same idea as mine, right after I posted Cyclops, is disingenuous in the extreme.”
There are a few things to unpack here. First – the first sentence. Once again, your method of analysis begins with a conclusion, and ends with evidence. I should not need to tell you why this is logically incoherent.
Once again, I am mentioning evidence, so, lets Segway into my evidence. The 2D-VTOL concept is older than you think it is. Specifically, a flight system that automatically balanced the aircraft, and used fixed thrusters for movement had been done before, by me – just in a different game. I have mentioned it a few times before, but I did make flying vehicles in Garry’s Mod before I found SimplePlanes. Interestingly enough, I remember creating a flight system that is conceptually identical to 2D-VTOL flight years ago in GMOD.
The aircraft is here.
It is, functionally speaking, a 2D-VTOL, with its conceptual framework almost perfectly aligning with my perception of what a 2D-VTOL is. It uses thrusters for translational motion, as well as an upward thruster for altitude control. It even has a mechanism that keeps it upright – it uses an invisible counterbalance to counter any random torques on the aircraft. Nifty, right? When SP 1.6 came out, I replicated the flight system that I made years ago in that other game, Garry’s mod. As Eternal said, the idea is older than BOTH of our accounts.
Since I came up with the same concept (2D-VTOL) in another game years ago, it would be foolish to assume that I am not capable of creating the same concept in a game that gives me better tools to implement the concept in question. Therefore, I can confidently state that my flight system’s concept was the result of my own work.
Beautiful! Good idea for a map mod.
+1No worries. I wanted to clear up the misinformation that sled sent your way. Regardless, it was a pleasure to help you with this beautiful build!
+1@Chancey21 Thanks! I record my footage in SP, then make a title screen in PowerPoint. After that. I use a free (and admittedly low-quality) video editor to trim the clip, and transition to the title slide. After that, I use an online video-to-gif converter (called ezgif) to convert the edited video into a gif.
+1Nice shape! I think the canopy looks a bit flat though.
+1@ThomasRoderick No worries, I thought about doing it, but in the end, I was just too lazy
+1@ThomasRoderick I have had trouble with zeroOnDeactivate for a while haha, I only realized what it did a few months ago.
+1@ThomasRoderick Thank you! I am happy to inform you that this little drone is only the start of another build that I am much more proud of. It will be uploaded within the month!
+1If it’s American (I learned to drive in California), then don’t worry - I remember that my nerves when learning to drive were the hardest part. Anyway, enjoy your experience! In my opinion, driving is pretty fun.
+1@Nickk No problem! It looks like you put a lot of effort into that build, so the upvote was well-deserved.
+1@Chancey21 iMovie is quite nice actually, I just can’t use it because I use windows.
+1I use VDSC Free Video editor. It’s free and fairly powerful, but its UI sucks, and it has trouble with fade-to-black transitions.
+1Nice one. I actually almost fell for it.
+1No worries. I didn’t know that the cleaver had a good enough blast radius to take down targets within 75 meters. I remember that I made a cleaver-based ATA cannon a while ago, but its function was not nearly as elegant as this one.
+1@Fellout That’s wonderful to hear! I tried my hardest to make this one run well on All devices
+1These days I put in about 6-12 hours, spanned over a month. Plus about 5 to make all associated graphics and descriptions.
+1@Bacondoggie Thanks for asking! Each quote can be from 1 of 3 sources:
+11. Song lyrics
2. Quotes from my life, in which someone said something meaningful to or about me.
3. Something that I thought of that was relevant to something happening in my life at the time.
These are often metaphors for a recent event in my life.
—-
The specific quote on this upload is an example of source 3. I try to match the quotes with the overall theme of the craft.
I’m not sure how I haven’t seen this yet, but I am glad that I get to see this beauty now!
+1Awesome idea, and you constructed it quite well too! Added to my favorites.
+1Hm. Looks like they aren’t equal. I might as well add to that
+1If a server is made, it would probably be best for you to make a forum post. Other users should join then!
+1@Ryn176 Thanks! I try my best to deliver a good build after a leave of absence.
+1@FastDan Thank you! I put a lot of thought and effort into this one. I am glad that you like it!
+1@Rastheinventor Thank you! I seem to be putting more and more effort into my builds. I am glad that you are noticing some improvement!
+1@small1324 Thank you! Your suggestions were valuable. I am glad that I implemented them well!
+1Go for it!
+1I have noticed that a select few builds won’t run very well on 1.8. Does this problem happen when you are using another aircraft?
+1@BaconRoll Thanks! I got a suggestion to style it off of a New Portum aircraft.
+1@ThomasRoderick Thanks as always! I added those lights as a little experiment - I'm glad that it turned out well.
+1@Feanor Thanks for the speedy upvote! The description has been updated.
+1It would be awesome to see another build from you. However, only build if you want to! Going into a build without any passion will only result in an incomplete project, or a project that you’re not proud of - a waste of time, either way.
+1@ThomasRoderick Thanks for the detailed feedback! I will certainly try out your suggestions.
+1Some random parts are probably connecting. Try replacing any fuselage blocks around the rotator with something that has only one connection point (like an inlet, for example).
+1@small1324 You’re right. The color scheme (and the theme) that I am going for are much like the Wakerider. I will do that - Thank you!
+1Eh, too busy to celebrate the holiday anyway. It is midterm season, after all. Besides, I think Awsomur's comment sums up my thoughts anyway.
+1@Potato21 I understand where you are coming from. I believe that certain colors pair well with certain shapes. It's a pretty abstract concept, so it can be confusing.
+1