Just downloaded your plane to see what one could do with it. My first impression: it's huge. For reference, an average human figure is about the height of a 3.5 units fuselage block. Your fuselage is 3.55 units high and 19.5 units long, meaning a grown human could walk upright through the cockpit and the overall length is more than 30 foot. I don't think you have to be afraid the plane will look too much like a kitfox. Rather than that it will look too much like a one-engined Junkers 52.
@WinsWings ps, in my version of the helicopter, I switched the rotor power/speed input from Throttle straight to Activate1. The throttle governor makes the idea of adjustable throttle useless anyhow. Then I switched the rotor pitch from VTOL to throttle so I could have all 4 commands on my two joysticks, like on a model toy helicopter. Then I landed on the edge of the Krakabloa volcano, just because.....
Looks quite spiffy for less than 100 parts and looks pretty detailed. Also I love how you get a STOL plane that takes off at 36 mph without even thinking of flaps, just using the lift of the wing.
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@WinsWings then check out @SimplPleyns original, both the Gold Special as well as the original it was based on. I didn't do so much but just adding some details and tweaking the takeoff and landing characteristics
@SchadeAircaftCompany If you want some help getting your plane to fly better, I did a few tweaks on my downloaded copy of the cormorant like deleting the second pair of wings to move the center of lift a bit back and tilt the engines 5° upward. I could get into detail here, but may be it be better you DM me on the Discord Simpleplanes builder chat ( https://discord.gg/afRjsf6T43 ) my username there is the.same as here : Sockdragger.
Excellent build with lots of details. Unfortunately it tends to flip over every time you attempt a water takeoff and otherwise the center of gravity and center of lift are so close together it stalls way too easily. It took me one hour of tweaking to get the flight characteristics somewhere near what I like. (Hit me up on one of the discord servers to discuss the details of what I did. I go under either Sockdragger or Daddy Sockdragger.)
Ps, there is a newer version of this plane available with some esthetic tweaks and slightly better landing characteristics. Also the top speed of the 'racing plane' in the handicap class comes.closer to the original performance of... 180 mph!
Has potential, but sad to say, as brilliant as it is esthetically, the plane is impossible to take off. Redesign the floats and incorporate some fins for it to at least not spin out of control when firing up the engine. You still have one week before tht challenge closes. If you get the plane to take off I will give you the upvote and a highlight it already deserves.... And yea, swap the flaps and ailerons. At present the flaps are the outer parts of the wing, the ailerons the inner parts. It should be the other way round!
Nice aircraft with pleasant flying characteristics. Still, 433 parts is and neither landing gear doors nor instruments in the cockpit.... And no flaps. For all the part count, a bit of a disappointment.
@Whatdoiput I since rewrote the instructions. Up to then, you can fly the plane as a conventional jet with just using the VTOL slider for flaps and occasionally use Button 2 to enter slow flying mode. Then try a power STOL takeoff by just enabling button 3 , taking off normally and pushing the VTOL slider to the third marker. As soon as you gain speed
Just posted my fictional anime airplane unaware that the deadline had been extended. It only took me an extra week to try out left and right until I got the flying characteristics right.
I don't know what system you use to extend your air brake, but if you use a piston or a rotator block, both have 'speed' settings in XML and I believe also in the regular settings tab. I have used speed settings in addition to activation groups for many of my 'gizmos' that are propelled by pistons or rotators such as sliding canopies or folding wings. I don't want to fish for downloads, but I can invite you to look at my latest seaplane and see how I did the folding wings or landing gear
Congratulations on a nice little flyer. I would give it a sincere up vote if you had spent five more minutes coloring the plane. Just painting all the struts silver and the wings red or blue makes a nice upgrade.
Looks like a million, flies like a dream. What's not to like. Okay, you can't do much but flying around with it, but the overall care for the details make it worth it.
Tip: try landing on water and then 'beaching' the craft on one of the shores opposite Yeager or Wright Field.
@WinsWings @ZerkkZxe The updated version is posted as an official entry to the Seaplane contest.
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/P771wv/Fictional-Vought-OS3U-2-Kingfisher-II
@WinsWings yea, I don't know why the plane isn't listed as a successor to your game, I used your original flight controller (you can still see it between the two pilot seats). I will experiment with it when I post the next update later tonight.
@WinsWings let's try this out....
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Nope, not yet....
Okay, until I figure out how to reach you in instant messaging, this will have to do. I like the new plane, but again you have managed to get the tailplane and float rudder move in the way wrong direction: the part of the tailplane that sticks up has to be set to yaw- inverted. The part that points down like the bottom of the tail and the float rudder to jaw- not inverted.
Also, when 'sitting' on the water, the central float is much deeper at the back then at the front. Can you add an extra yard to the back part of the float to make it rest more evenly? I did so on my download and while I was at it, also made a little 'step' in it and the result is much more pleasing. I can post my upgrade, but I don't want to steal your thunder on a plane that's so thoroughly you.
Real neat for only 20 parts. Unfortunately, it has the same error your seaplane has: somehow the controls for the tailplane got set to 'roll' where they should be switched to 'jaw' and the option 'invert' switched to 'true'. Just park the plane on the runway and move the left control stick, you see what I mean.
Nice plane and flies.well - after some modifications: I hate to tell you this, but somehow thetailplane's commands are set to 'roll' I stead of 'yaw'. And you should also select 'invert' as 'yes'. Same with the float's fin. Invert it for the plane not move into the opposite direction when skimming over the water. Otherwise, I love it.
@dabestsock because you wouldn't want to have to push it onto the runway if it hadn't. It's not so much for landing as for moving it around when on the ground.
@V likewise. It took me two days of trial and error just to get my first plane not to crash on every landing. And after all the mods, it just looked atrocious.
I am am airplane guy, so I vote for the airplane. However there are already a couple of very good Me-262 uploaded, so you got to make yours stand out.
She looks pretty small, must have been pretty young still.
My condolences.
+1What??? No one mentioned Alberto Santos-Dumont? Time to build myself some airships
+1Just downloaded your plane to see what one could do with it. My first impression: it's huge. For reference, an average human figure is about the height of a 3.5 units fuselage block. Your fuselage is 3.55 units high and 19.5 units long, meaning a grown human could walk upright through the cockpit and the overall length is more than 30 foot. I don't think you have to be afraid the plane will look too much like a kitfox. Rather than that it will look too much like a one-engined Junkers 52.
@RealMicroZackSP yea, it's named after the town and the town is named after the monarch. So there's a person's name in there somewhere
+1I never could figure.oit how the landing gear on tht original worked...
+1@WinsWings ps, in my version of the helicopter, I switched the rotor power/speed input from Throttle straight to Activate1. The throttle governor makes the idea of adjustable throttle useless anyhow. Then I switched the rotor pitch from VTOL to throttle so I could have all 4 commands on my two joysticks, like on a model toy helicopter. Then I landed on the edge of the Krakabloa volcano, just because.....
+1Actually a helicopter I can fly.... Even one I enjoy to fly. Thanks
+1Prone to stalling. Needs a little dead weight in the nose, but otherwise a pretty nice aircraft
+1Looks quite spiffy for less than 100 parts and looks pretty detailed. Also I love how you get a STOL plane that takes off at 36 mph without even thinking of flaps, just using the lift of the wing.
+2The forum and aircraft library support the 'markdown' format. So the best way to learn about adding hyperlinks and other simple formatting is by googling 'Markdown formatting' to get to a site like this where they explain the whole process better than I can here.
The forum and aircraft library support the 'markdown' format. So the best way to learn about adding hyperlinks and other simple formatting is by googling 'Markdown formatting' to get to a site like this where they explain the whole process better than I can here.
@WinsWings then check out @SimplPleyns original, both the Gold Special as well as the original it was based on. I didn't do so much but just adding some details and tweaking the takeoff and landing characteristics
+1Custom seat and historically accurate engine instruments in the engine nacelles (IRL, the cockpit was too cramped for more instruments). Love it!
+2Lands almost like the real thing. I love it.
Nice little plane with lots of nice details. And on top of that, it flies really well too.
Ps, where did you hide the wings? You didn't just custom-made them out of fuselage parts?
+1Nice little details and a really good color scheme.lovr it.
The vertical stabilizers turn the wrong way. They should be inverted. Otherwise a real nice plane, and it flies really good too
+1Flies like a dream... Great work
@SchadeAircaftCompany If you want some help getting your plane to fly better, I did a few tweaks on my downloaded copy of the cormorant like deleting the second pair of wings to move the center of lift a bit back and tilt the engines 5° upward. I could get into detail here, but may be it be better you DM me on the Discord Simpleplanes builder chat ( https://discord.gg/afRjsf6T43 ) my username there is the.same as here : Sockdragger.
Excellent build with lots of details. Unfortunately it tends to flip over every time you attempt a water takeoff and otherwise the center of gravity and center of lift are so close together it stalls way too easily. It took me one hour of tweaking to get the flight characteristics somewhere near what I like. (Hit me up on one of the discord servers to discuss the details of what I did. I go under either Sockdragger or Daddy Sockdragger.)
Ps, there is a newer version of this plane available with some esthetic tweaks and slightly better landing characteristics. Also the top speed of the 'racing plane' in the handicap class comes.closer to the original performance of... 180 mph!
Has potential, but sad to say, as brilliant as it is esthetically, the plane is impossible to take off. Redesign the floats and incorporate some fins for it to at least not spin out of control when firing up the engine. You still have one week before tht challenge closes. If you get the plane to take off I will give you the upvote and a highlight it already deserves.... And yea, swap the flaps and ailerons. At present the flaps are the outer parts of the wing, the ailerons the inner parts. It should be the other way round!
Nice aircraft with pleasant flying characteristics. Still, 433 parts is and neither landing gear doors nor instruments in the cockpit.... And no flaps. For all the part count, a bit of a disappointment.
Did you aim for it to have exactly 666 parts or is this just a lucky coincidence.
+2@Whatdoiput I since rewrote the instructions. Up to then, you can fly the plane as a conventional jet with just using the VTOL slider for flaps and occasionally use Button 2 to enter slow flying mode. Then try a power STOL takeoff by just enabling button 3 , taking off normally and pushing the VTOL slider to the third marker. As soon as you gain speed
Just posted my fictional anime airplane unaware that the deadline had been extended. It only took me an extra week to try out left and right until I got the flying characteristics right.
I don't know what system you use to extend your air brake, but if you use a piston or a rotator block, both have 'speed' settings in XML and I believe also in the regular settings tab. I have used speed settings in addition to activation groups for many of my 'gizmos' that are propelled by pistons or rotators such as sliding canopies or folding wings. I don't want to fish for downloads, but I can invite you to look at my latest seaplane and see how I did the folding wings or landing gear
+1Congratulations on a nice little flyer. I would give it a sincere up vote if you had spent five more minutes coloring the plane. Just painting all the struts silver and the wings red or blue makes a nice upgrade.
+2Looks like a million, flies like a dream. What's not to like. Okay, you can't do much but flying around with it, but the overall care for the details make it worth it.
Tip: try landing on water and then 'beaching' the craft on one of the shores opposite Yeager or Wright Field.
@WinsWings Great. I have a plane here, but I never got around having it carry a bunch of liferafts to drop.... I'll add those in a week then
+1@WinsWings @ZerkkZxe The updated version is posted as an official entry to the Seaplane contest.
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/P771wv/Fictional-Vought-OS3U-2-Kingfisher-II
@WinsWings yea, I don't know why the plane isn't listed as a successor to your game, I used your original flight controller (you can still see it between the two pilot seats). I will experiment with it when I post the next update later tonight.
Got to love French design... Congratulations
@WinsWings let's try this out....
![https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634523674946568225/1206595159790452816/IMG20240211220126.jpg?ex=65dc944f&is=65ca1f4f&hm=ba3176abf404b3db73541b180d31fcb71b6d52f699f43b15f86383fffe40b15b&]
Nope, not yet....
@WinsWings I'm post my concept sketches here, but first I have to learn how to embed images in my forum posts
@WinsWings I love it. Looks like a million. Flies better still.
Okay, until I figure out how to reach you in instant messaging, this will have to do. I like the new plane, but again you have managed to get the tailplane and float rudder move in the way wrong direction: the part of the tailplane that sticks up has to be set to yaw- inverted. The part that points down like the bottom of the tail and the float rudder to jaw- not inverted.
Also, when 'sitting' on the water, the central float is much deeper at the back then at the front. Can you add an extra yard to the back part of the float to make it rest more evenly? I did so on my download and while I was at it, also made a little 'step' in it and the result is much more pleasing. I can post my upgrade, but I don't want to steal your thunder on a plane that's so thoroughly you.
@WinsWings sorry, I'm already designing.my own jet seaplane plus an option for a Dornier 335 with retractable central float.
+1Real neat for only 20 parts. Unfortunately, it has the same error your seaplane has: somehow the controls for the tailplane got set to 'roll' where they should be switched to 'jaw' and the option 'invert' switched to 'true'. Just park the plane on the runway and move the left control stick, you see what I mean.
+1Nice plane and flies.well - after some modifications: I hate to tell you this, but somehow thetailplane's commands are set to 'roll' I stead of 'yaw'. And you should also select 'invert' as 'yes'. Same with the float's fin. Invert it for the plane not move into the opposite direction when skimming over the water. Otherwise, I love it.
+1@dabestsock because you wouldn't want to have to push it onto the runway if it hadn't. It's not so much for landing as for moving it around when on the ground.
+1Nice little airplane
No...
+1Truly an image of the original:
"As majestic as the sphinx... And almost just as fast"
@V likewise. It took me two days of trial and error just to get my first plane not to crash on every landing. And after all the mods, it just looked atrocious.
+2You know... If you change the form of the wings I to a delta and make the tailplane a little slimmer, you could have a quite passable F4 Phantom...
+3Just make that fuselage a bit higher and you have a Hawker Hurricane expy
+1@WisconsinStatePolice Good. Feel free to just borrow Otto and build him an original Lilienthal glider, or a Hargreaves box kite
+1@WisconsinStatePolice just have to find a good way to launch the glider, preferably from a mountain top and into the wind...
+1