@asteroidbook345 Thanks =) The main wheels are definately lightning, i just reversed the sides so they retract backwards instead of forwards to help with the COG balance. I didnt add any suspension as such, just for decoration hence it is a bit hard on landing (i find that suspension is more hassle than its worth on relatively light aircraft or very heavy aircraft)
@ChiChiWerx Thanks, i really appreciate the review and your comments, im glad you liked it as well. I just wanted something that wasnt so serious (or armed to the teeth) for a change. Just to clarify things, SP counts vertical surfaces when it calculates wing loading, so if you delete the actual fin/vertical stab from the build it gives a better representation of the actual wing loading (73 lbs/sq ft in this case)
@asteroidbook345 fair enough, the dragon was a single engine ee lightning fuselage (reduced in height due to one engine) and a draken style wing, nothing too outrageous there :p.
The thing is, the game let's you make whatever you want and you can make things fly that wouldn't necessarily in real life, thats part of the fun to me. Look at the artwork small-brown-dog produces, non of it would be work in real life but his art looks good with the whole concept being around imaginary lift devices.
I get that some of my concepts are less feasible than others but in the end they are just bits of art. On top of that I have seen a load of concept drawings for aircraft of all eras where you take one look and think "thats not going to work" but someone obviously thought differently. I like the saying "if it looks right it will fly right" but just because it looks wrong doesn't automatically mean it will fly wrong, look at the f4, the fairey gannet or the airtruk for instance, they all have non conventional aspects that just make them look wrong but they where successful aircraft.
@asteroidbook345 fair enough, im not disputing your opinion and I like feedback like this that we can discuss. In regards to gaps around control surfaces, these exist on real aircraft (have a look at a spitfire fin for instance) older aircraft where not built to the same tolerances as todays aircraft plus leaving a small gap (intentionally on my part) it accentuates the control surface and also has the added genetic of reducing part clashing. I'm curious which of my more recent aircraft you thought was implausible :)
@asteroidbook345 nah, my hottest builds where just because I was new, the only thing that has been added to that list of late was the kit challenge (and that's an oddity in itself). I use different styles and design completely different things all the time but there's always something else to work on :) votes are harder to come by when mods can't spotlight your work.
@tucan you still can, i havnt exactly built a replica, mine is much shallower in depth of fuselage, doesnt have the armament or the cockpit etc. I basically just used the photo for inspiration and then made my own thing. oh and if you want to do a proper link just put  without the exclamation mark
@asteroidbook345 I know its weird as on my computer screen it is bright and clear but on when its on a thumbnail it seems darker especially on my phone. I wont use sunrise in future =)
@Hedero thanks, i still enjoy building, posting and typing the description is a chore though... Manueverability is always a compromise, most of ther time i build them too manuevrable and then tone it down to match my impression of the realistic aircraft.
@LoafOfBread originally i did the wing for a fighter which indeed needed the tip to lower down for clearance in the carrier, it helps on this one for hanger door clearance etc. i would imagine anyway
@Hedero thanks :) it looks like 27 upvotes is my limit of late. I appreciate all your upvotes and comments, im grateful for my return customers. I wonder what I have to earn more though?
@NightmareCorporation its definitely bits of harrier but the rest I made up really, its sort of similar in places to f18, mirage 2000 etc but I didn't model anything directly on them.
@DJ2keroni the original concept was to create a VTOL supersonic harrier with a delta wing but the VTOL bit frustrated me enough to abandon it in favour of this.
@X4JB I did thanks to edensk and it works, if I try anything it just freezes the rotator.... but then again I wouldn't normally put a capital letter in the middle of a command either (ignitionDelay for example) so maybe I'm just not cut out for the computing/maths bit ;)
@edensk thanks, i will play with that, you definately need to do that useful commands list with a little desciprtion as to what does what, I find the other guides out there overly complex =)
@WolfSpark now if only i knew how to code funky trees... or even knew you could do this with them in the first place =) Even the codes for BIDMAS that snowflake quotes are diffeerent to when i went to school lol.
@BogdanX did you delete the message where you gave me to the FT formula for releasing the detacher once it moves? My reply went, "good call, I will do that in the future. Just annoying that the game spawns at such a height that it rotates backwards without it... (I didnt want cog any further forwards, I like trundling up the runway with the nose in the air" and now i have the same problem to solve... If you have it i would appreciate it.
@LoafOfBread thanks :) it all depends on how its built, I decide on the sceme early in the build do I can make the build around it. Tag me on an unlisted and I'll take a look.
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook ah k, i can honestly say that i didnt even know of the existance of that till you linked it, for some reason i dont know a lot of the russian stuff.
@Hardy1 its just a mix of thrust lines, centre of lift and centre of mass imbalance etc. So if the engines are below centre of lift they will cause a pitch up, same if they are above they will cause a pitch down. have a look through this PS im no expert, i just dabble with bits and have a general idea of what causes what
@BucketBucketTheCan sorry im only doing certain challenges at present, you might want to look at challenges like mahadis where it details how it will be marked etc.
@BurkeAircraft1 that doesnt really work, the early fighters where silver or white (anti flash) due to their role but this altered significantly with better SAMs, aircraft of that era onwards carried camo on the top so they were hidden either on or close to the ground before popping up to intercept or bomb, hence the camo colours.
@FeatherWing thanks. Yes and no to your question, I always like the idea if a swing wing lightning but the sea lightning with the side intakes and extended fin was just ugly so I made my own (hopefully prettier) version.
@WiiMini A year of experimenting... yeah there area couple nearly done that im aiming to get finished soon, i also have 3 not on here in my unlisted posts ready to go. I need a new hobby (or go back to an old one to be precise) lol.
@edensk thanks, I will give it a go with those funky trees, I didn't know that was possible (funkytrees are gibberish to me). The fuel was intentional, the lightning was notoriously fuel hungry, I read somewhere that the ventral tank was emptied just after takeoff. I agree with the drag, its mostly on the nose intake, I was worried it was going too quick at altitude hence increased drag, but I see your point about lower drag and power. Thanks again for your comments, it's nice to get feedback to improve in the future.
@EternalDarkness Shhh... no one noticed:) its actually an su22 inner section of wing but I can't even tell the difference between the 17 and 22 so I will let you off.
@PxVector fix HERE For no apparent reason it had attached the gun to a missile front (second panel), no way was this me or intentional, i manually attached it to the fuselage (which had the connection then removed), game is really starting to wear on me with these things...
@MAHADI Glad you delayed the deadline, i forgot all about this, got a couple of things im working on and hopefully should have one finished soon for this.
@asteroidbook345 Thanks =) The main wheels are definately lightning, i just reversed the sides so they retract backwards instead of forwards to help with the COG balance. I didnt add any suspension as such, just for decoration hence it is a bit hard on landing (i find that suspension is more hassle than its worth on relatively light aircraft or very heavy aircraft)
@ChiChiWerx Thanks, i really appreciate the review and your comments, im glad you liked it as well. I just wanted something that wasnt so serious (or armed to the teeth) for a change. Just to clarify things, SP counts vertical surfaces when it calculates wing loading, so if you delete the actual fin/vertical stab from the build it gives a better representation of the actual wing loading (73 lbs/sq ft in this case)
@RadiumOxide ?
@Mrfoxus help yourself
@asteroidbook345 fair enough, the dragon was a single engine ee lightning fuselage (reduced in height due to one engine) and a draken style wing, nothing too outrageous there :p.
The thing is, the game let's you make whatever you want and you can make things fly that wouldn't necessarily in real life, thats part of the fun to me. Look at the artwork small-brown-dog produces, non of it would be work in real life but his art looks good with the whole concept being around imaginary lift devices.
I get that some of my concepts are less feasible than others but in the end they are just bits of art. On top of that I have seen a load of concept drawings for aircraft of all eras where you take one look and think "thats not going to work" but someone obviously thought differently. I like the saying "if it looks right it will fly right" but just because it looks wrong doesn't automatically mean it will fly wrong, look at the f4, the fairey gannet or the airtruk for instance, they all have non conventional aspects that just make them look wrong but they where successful aircraft.
@asteroidbook345 fair enough, im not disputing your opinion and I like feedback like this that we can discuss. In regards to gaps around control surfaces, these exist on real aircraft (have a look at a spitfire fin for instance) older aircraft where not built to the same tolerances as todays aircraft plus leaving a small gap (intentionally on my part) it accentuates the control surface and also has the added genetic of reducing part clashing. I'm curious which of my more recent aircraft you thought was implausible :)
@asteroidbook345 nah, my hottest builds where just because I was new, the only thing that has been added to that list of late was the kit challenge (and that's an oddity in itself). I use different styles and design completely different things all the time but there's always something else to work on :) votes are harder to come by when mods can't spotlight your work.
@tucan you still can, i havnt exactly built a replica, mine is much shallower in depth of fuselage, doesnt have the armament or the cockpit etc. I basically just used the photo for inspiration and then made my own thing. oh and if you want to do a proper link just put  without the exclamation mark
@asteroidbook345 I know its weird as on my computer screen it is bright and clear but on when its on a thumbnail it seems darker especially on my phone. I wont use sunrise in future =)
What is thanksgiving? Is it some American thing that they expect the rest of the world to understand?
@BagelPlane totally agree, I gave up with it as the ui was horrible.
@LittleTOADY sorry but I don't have any interest in low part count builds. This works fine in my mobile as well.
@Hedero i might have a go, have you seen how small the prop is on a Grumman duck? next a corsair here
@Hedero yeah I could do that, it would be a proper amphibian then :)
@Hedero thanks, i still enjoy building, posting and typing the description is a chore though... Manueverability is always a compromise, most of ther time i build them too manuevrable and then tone it down to match my impression of the realistic aircraft.
@LoafOfBread as I said before just give me a link so I can see what you have built.
@LoafOfBread originally i did the wing for a fighter which indeed needed the tip to lower down for clearance in the carrier, it helps on this one for hanger door clearance etc. i would imagine anyway
Who doesn't test them? I know I've had the odd glitch slip through but no ones perfect. Most users I've downloaded from seem to test.
@Hedero thanks :) it looks like 27 upvotes is my limit of late. I appreciate all your upvotes and comments, im grateful for my return customers. I wonder what I have to earn more though?
@NightmareCorporation its definitely bits of harrier but the rest I made up really, its sort of similar in places to f18, mirage 2000 etc but I didn't model anything directly on them.
@CommandPuppy2 no issue for me and no-one else has reported an issue, you reloaded and tried again?
@LoafOfBread I thought you wanted me to look at a ju87?
@DJ2keroni the original concept was to create a VTOL supersonic harrier with a delta wing but the VTOL bit frustrated me enough to abandon it in favour of this.
@X4JB I did thanks to edensk and it works, if I try anything it just freezes the rotator.... but then again I wouldn't normally put a capital letter in the middle of a command either (ignitionDelay for example) so maybe I'm just not cut out for the computing/maths bit ;)
@BogdanX thanks bogdan, im lost on commands at present (and funky trees don't compute with me ever).
@edensk thanks, i will play with that, you definately need to do that useful commands list with a little desciprtion as to what does what, I find the other guides out there overly complex =)
@WolfSpark now if only i knew how to code funky trees... or even knew you could do this with them in the first place =) Even the codes for BIDMAS that snowflake quotes are diffeerent to when i went to school lol.
@BogdanX did you delete the message where you gave me to the FT formula for releasing the detacher once it moves? My reply went, "good call, I will do that in the future. Just annoying that the game spawns at such a height that it rotates backwards without it... (I didnt want cog any further forwards, I like trundling up the runway with the nose in the air" and now i have the same problem to solve... If you have it i would appreciate it.
Hello, is it me your looking for?
You are using imgur and you haven't removed the s from https ?
@LoafOfBread thanks :) it all depends on how its built, I decide on the sceme early in the build do I can make the build around it. Tag me on an unlisted and I'll take a look.
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook ah k, i can honestly say that i didnt even know of the existance of that till you linked it, for some reason i dont know a lot of the russian stuff.
@edensk Awesome, and i get to be number 100 to upvote =)
@Hedero ah, thanks :) I definitely interpreted that wrong.
@Fliegerkerlchen fixed, sorry I had intended to switch the rocket jettison to AG6 but in the end left it on AG2... oops.
@Hardy1 its just a mix of thrust lines, centre of lift and centre of mass imbalance etc. So if the engines are below centre of lift they will cause a pitch up, same if they are above they will cause a pitch down. have a look through this PS im no expert, i just dabble with bits and have a general idea of what causes what
@Hardy1 I don't know what you mean, are u retracting flaps and using trim?
@BucketBucketTheCan sorry im only doing certain challenges at present, you might want to look at challenges like mahadis where it details how it will be marked etc.
@BurkeAircraft1 that doesnt really work, the early fighters where silver or white (anti flash) due to their role but this altered significantly with better SAMs, aircraft of that era onwards carried camo on the top so they were hidden either on or close to the ground before popping up to intercept or bomb, hence the camo colours.
@NexusGaming Im not giving them away lol, i am just showing what i have to finish off, you will ahve to wait till they are done to alter them.
@FeatherWing thanks. Yes and no to your question, I always like the idea if a swing wing lightning but the sea lightning with the side intakes and extended fin was just ugly so I made my own (hopefully prettier) version.
@WiiMini A year of experimenting... yeah there area couple nearly done that im aiming to get finished soon, i also have 3 not on here in my unlisted posts ready to go. I need a new hobby (or go back to an old one to be precise) lol.
@edensk thanks, I will give it a go with those funky trees, I didn't know that was possible (funkytrees are gibberish to me). The fuel was intentional, the lightning was notoriously fuel hungry, I read somewhere that the ventral tank was emptied just after takeoff. I agree with the drag, its mostly on the nose intake, I was worried it was going too quick at altitude hence increased drag, but I see your point about lower drag and power. Thanks again for your comments, it's nice to get feedback to improve in the future.
@EternalDarkness Shhh... no one noticed:) its actually an su22 inner section of wing but I can't even tell the difference between the 17 and 22 so I will let you off.
Link to results here just incase anyone else was waiting to see what happened :p
@PxVector fix HERE For no apparent reason it had attached the gun to a missile front (second panel), no way was this me or intentional, i manually attached it to the fuselage (which had the connection then removed), game is really starting to wear on me with these things...
@PxVector No, it never did that in all the testing i did, how has it got attached to a missile??? Its nowhere near them...
I think its just flat with no edges, I flew at thousands of knts in a single direction and just saw sea.
@MAHADI Glad you delayed the deadline, i forgot all about this, got a couple of things im working on and hopefully should have one finished soon for this.
@fishstyx cool, I didn't know that, thanks.