@TheFantasticTyphoon I only build planes, myself. Hell, I only make replicas of planes, my idea of variety is the number of engines. But I do admire the detail people cram into trucks and tanks and ships on here.
Congratulations MAHADI. By actually taking the time to link the top 20 planes and post analysis for each one. There are so many shamelessly lazy challenges these days, and it's great to see somebody doing the right thing. So here's to you!
When you rescale the whole plane in finetuner, if you only scale in one or two dimensions, some parts will be distorted in unexpected ways. So always go 2,2,2 or 0.972, 0.972, 0.972 etc.
Also be careful to use "relative scale" and to uncheck "calculate mass" and "engine power"
@Chancey21 XD You brought the plane to a stop midair and fell 30 feet straight down. With a gravitational acceleration of 9.8 meters per second squared, that means you hit straight into the ground at 30 mph. If a truck ran into your plane doing 30, would you call that a crash?
Yup. Big pretty stuff gets the votes, but that's ok. People who put in time and effort deserve a little fame. But downloads are what I shoot for, I want people to enjoy what I've made.
So because you had some issues after messing around with the game in a way that the designers never intended, now they need to revise their code for you, free of charge?
Scaling engines is fine. Mass scaling engines is a quick and effective way to turn your plane into a bug filled disaster.
As others have mentioned, wing pieces are unaffected by scaling. The provide the same lift no matter how they are scaled, but ailerons that are 40 feet out from the centerline of your plane are much stronger than seemingly identical ailerons 2 feet from the centerline of your plane. In other words your control surfaces can be affected by scaling, but not the way you expected.
Also, be sure to scale all 3 dimensions evenly, otherwise things get hilariously messy.
By your criteria, some of the most iconic maritime patrollers would be disqualified. The Martin PB6-M Marlin and even the first half of all PBY Catalinas lacked retractable landing gear. Almost all WW2 patrol bombers and even many post war designs sported guns and even cannons.
Are these rules in place to emphasize aircraft that are currently in service? Or just quality concerns?
Yup. If I am not 100% in love with the plane I'm working on, I end up playing Fallout or Skyrim and 3 months go by and the plane never gets made. Then I find a plane I do love and need to build and I come back.
What they do is save you lots and lots of time! Say you need to build a plane that has 4 identical engine nacelles, rather than building all 4 from scratch, you can copy-paste them using the subassembly feature. It's also a great way to move chunks of one build into another project, just tear off the parts you need, save it as an assembly open tge new project and load the saved assembly from there.
@Fred19 @ForeverPie Guys, they've been talking about that stuff for 2,000 years. If it's your firm religious belief that the world is about to end, I won't argue it with you but try and remember that things are much, much less awful for most people today than they once were.
Just think how frustrating it is for people in real life. The F-105 had its pitch control severed in combat so often that they installed special spring-loaded jaws that would clamp down, holding the tail in a neutral position while the pilot could steer the bird home using the main wing flaps to control pitch.
@ForeverPie Pie, we all like Mattangi. And we miss him. He might be dead, or he might not be, but he's certainly not posting on here anymore. Whatever you choose to believe about this whole thing, please keep in mind that no one is trying to be hurtful.
Ancient people don't get enough credit. When I see clowns on the "History" channel talking about how aliens made the pyramids in Egypt and Central America, it makes me want to puke. Can you imagine how pissed off you'd be if you and everyone else in your city spent half a lifetime building monuments that could outlast millennia only to have people in the future so dumb and lazy that they couldn't believe anyone had the motivation and skill to build them in the first place?
EDIT- Not directing this at anyone here. Just a rant.Also, the History chan is a joke.
@AWESOMENESS360 I read a joke once where Soviet engineers were demonstrating Rocket-Assisted-Takeoff interceptors to Khrushchev. "You see, premier, the jet can be launched from the back of a truck. It needs no runway to take off."
THOU SHALT PUT IMAGES IN THY TEASERS OR THOU SHANT POST TEASERS AT ALL!!!!
+4@TheFantasticTyphoon I prefer it that way, most song lyrics are incredibly stupid.
+4@Omel If you look through the posts of any platinum shipbuilder, you're certainly going to find a variety of cargo ships tankers.
+4@TheFantasticTyphoon I only build planes, myself. Hell, I only make replicas of planes, my idea of variety is the number of engines. But I do admire the detail people cram into trucks and tanks and ships on here.
+4@MAHADI Sorry, just wish more people would do their challenges this way.
+4Congratulations MAHADI. By actually taking the time to link the top 20 planes and post analysis for each one. There are so many shamelessly lazy challenges these days, and it's great to see somebody doing the right thing. So here's to you!
+4Upload limit is awesome. Some people spend months building a single plane, and they get buried under piles of 5 minute uploads.
+4BE SURE TO SCALE ALL 3 DIMENSIONS EQUALLY!
When you rescale the whole plane in finetuner, if you only scale in one or two dimensions, some parts will be distorted in unexpected ways. So always go 2,2,2 or 0.972, 0.972, 0.972 etc.
Also be careful to use "relative scale" and to uncheck "calculate mass" and "engine power"
+4@BACconcordepilot It is. :)
+4Do we need another Spitfire? Has it been 3 hours already?
+4@Chancey21 XD You brought the plane to a stop midair and fell 30 feet straight down. With a gravitational acceleration of 9.8 meters per second squared, that means you hit straight into the ground at 30 mph. If a truck ran into your plane doing 30, would you call that a crash?
+4At first, I thiught that screenshot was a photo!
+4Fallout New Vegas
+4That's a good idea. Online "fun" is not worth real life stress. I hope you feel better.
+4@Phoza I hate that I love that you said that.
+4No, you didn't.
Posts like this are pointless.
+41/5 Not funny, original or interesting. Poor grammar. Ineffective use of capslock. Would not read again.
+4Number of parts: 29
F A I L
+4Yup, it's my birthday. All you fools better never forget!
+4Yup. Big pretty stuff gets the votes, but that's ok. People who put in time and effort deserve a little fame. But downloads are what I shoot for, I want people to enjoy what I've made.
+4SO?
+4AKA Iran's "brand new, completely indigenous" fighter for 2018. lol
+4Change it to "I only make messerschmitts"
+4For best results, spawn in the air.
+4@DPSAircraftManufacturer
A little optmized
So because you had some issues after messing around with the game in a way that the designers never intended, now they need to revise their code for you, free of charge?
+4Scaling engines is fine. Mass scaling engines is a quick and effective way to turn your plane into a bug filled disaster.
As others have mentioned, wing pieces are unaffected by scaling. The provide the same lift no matter how they are scaled, but ailerons that are 40 feet out from the centerline of your plane are much stronger than seemingly identical ailerons 2 feet from the centerline of your plane. In other words your control surfaces can be affected by scaling, but not the way you expected.
Also, be sure to scale all 3 dimensions evenly, otherwise things get hilariously messy.
+4Worst P-38 ever.
+410/10
My face hurts from laughing.
+4Just slap the default gyro on it.
+4@GeneralOliverVonBismarck "with testing I have found the post limit"
No surprise there. Was it necessary to post all that crap in 4 separate comments?
+4By your criteria, some of the most iconic maritime patrollers would be disqualified. The Martin PB6-M Marlin and even the first half of all PBY Catalinas lacked retractable landing gear. Almost all WW2 patrol bombers and even many post war designs sported guns and even cannons.
Are these rules in place to emphasize aircraft that are currently in service? Or just quality concerns?
+4Looks great except the landing gear. It needs to go much further forward. Like this
+4Yup. If I am not 100% in love with the plane I'm working on, I end up playing Fallout or Skyrim and 3 months go by and the plane never gets made. Then I find a plane I do love and need to build and I come back.
+4What they do is save you lots and lots of time! Say you need to build a plane that has 4 identical engine nacelles, rather than building all 4 from scratch, you can copy-paste them using the subassembly feature. It's also a great way to move chunks of one build into another project, just tear off the parts you need, save it as an assembly open tge new project and load the saved assembly from there.
+4@Fred19 @ForeverPie Guys, they've been talking about that stuff for 2,000 years. If it's your firm religious belief that the world is about to end, I won't argue it with you but try and remember that things are much, much less awful for most people today than they once were.
+46 uploads in one year, calls everyone else lazy
Seems legit.
+4Just think how frustrating it is for people in real life. The F-105 had its pitch control severed in combat so often that they installed special spring-loaded jaws that would clamp down, holding the tail in a neutral position while the pilot could steer the bird home using the main wing flaps to control pitch.
+4You should make one carrying St. Basil's cathedral.
+4Nice! China sure was crazy about those Farmers, way more than the Russians were.
+4CONGRATULATIONS, you've just beat the game.
+4@ForeverPie Pie, we all like Mattangi. And we miss him. He might be dead, or he might not be, but he's certainly not posting on here anymore. Whatever you choose to believe about this whole thing, please keep in mind that no one is trying to be hurtful.
+4Ancient people don't get enough credit. When I see clowns on the "History" channel talking about how aliens made the pyramids in Egypt and Central America, it makes me want to puke. Can you imagine how pissed off you'd be if you and everyone else in your city spent half a lifetime building monuments that could outlast millennia only to have people in the future so dumb and lazy that they couldn't believe anyone had the motivation and skill to build them in the first place?
EDIT- Not directing this at anyone here. Just a rant. Also, the History chan is a joke.
+4This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you can't always trust sans-serif fonts.
+4Couldn't favorite it, so I bookmarked it. Great post.
+4@ProcessedPlAnEs Try again, my dude
+4I wonder why people get all wild and crazy about aliens, but not unicorns or the easter bunny. Real shame.
+4The link is dead, Jim.
+4This thing is gonna make an EXCELLENT dogfighting adversary!
+4Joke is like food, not everyone get.
+4-Joseph Stalin
@AWESOMENESS360 I read a joke once where Soviet engineers were demonstrating Rocket-Assisted-Takeoff interceptors to Khrushchev. "You see, premier, the jet can be launched from the back of a truck. It needs no runway to take off."
"Excellent" he said, "now where will it land?"
+3