@Erionh that was Kiiikiii 's original design. He also had six VTOL engines along with the engine in the back, so I guess he needed them. I deleted the two that were bureied in the fuselage but later added one again for the automatic descent control.
That being said, you can always modify the fuselage to your own liking with as little or as much intakes as you want.
You can have the amount of fuel in the wings to something like 25.gal's for each of the 4 wing halves. It won't matter much and the plane will take off a lot easier.
Forget the crop duster. You should market this one as an ULM. With a top speed of 100 mph and a stall speed of 50, it comes pretty close to that ULM feeling.
The landing gear wheels are too far back. Move them to the front of your wing or your plane will just dig in as soon as you give throttle on takeoff. Otherwise, pretty solid for only 76 parts.
Plus sides: beautifully historically accurate cockpit, even for only 200 parts. Minus: no flaps, still standard wings. Flying: pretty pleasant, although I would wish for a top speed more like the original's 500 mph.
Worth downloading: yes
Worth flying: yes
Worth upvoting: just did
Naa,happens that the A-50 is a pretty hard plane to find plans for so when I got them, I also got a dozen different paint schemes, one better than the other... And I couldn't decide. But this five are definitely the only ones I will ever make. I got enough ideas for other planes.
As for the Klemm 25, with the A-50, Junkers actually set out to make a competitor for it by using the 7 years of progress that happened since the first Klemm was built. In the SimplePlanes build you can't really see it but the whole plane is built out of corrugated aluminum having ribs stick out all over. The Klemm is built out of plywood and it's fuselage is so square you can mistake models of it for toys.
Ok. I'll repost it later with a screenshot thumbnail and post the original picture in the body. I'll also repost all other Junkers A50 's as I have been using real life photos and contents from a model company's website in their thumbnails.
@DeezDucks I don't know how active you are as a moderator still, but I have a problem. THis aircraft is a successor to my earlier Junkers A50 from Finland but on the page for that plane it doesn't show up as a successor. Did I do something wrong or do I have to specify it there? How does this work when you want to start a challenge and you need a custom successor/entries page?
@HuskyDynamics01 so far it work on one side: the new plane is listed as a successor to the old one but on the old plane's page it doesn't show up that the old plane has a successor now.
I hate to contact the moderator for every plane that I make a successor. But for now it is the only option. Do we have a handle for which to ping the moderator with?
I second @DARZAVIATION: it would be nice to choose which parts you do NOT want to mirror I keep having that -well, it's not really a problem, rather an inconvenience- that if I have to redo something on both sides of the plane and I already have a cockpit interior, I can either do both sides by hand or mirror and redo the cockpit ( all instruments and flight controls are mirrored by default. I think just having an offset to define which CENTER Or FUSELAGE parts should not be mirrored would already go a long way.
The same thing with flaps and ailerons, especially when you use funky code to mix ailerons with pitch or flaps. When you mirror your wing, you are almost certain to have to rewrite half of the code. I could live though with just the option: replace parts already mirrored/leave parts already mirrored for leaving the old wing as is even if you replace the tips.
Not bad for 72 parts. And a nice color scheme as well (I would have wished for some insignias though) . Also the first thing I had to do is put 200 lb of extra weight in the nose to keep it from constantly stalling
I made it flat and fat because the original idea was to have a ramp in the back for boarding the space ninjas or their rocket motorcycles. May be a future version.....
Looks Quite cool, flies like a breeze. My only regret is that for a jet liner, even an experimental one, it should have a top speed bigger than 270 mph.
Also, if you get tired of the current livery, just open the paint tool and circle through the color schemes. The plane looks marvelous in every color, even if in 'green slime' it looks a bit like a Matchbox toy.
@MrSternMC9MM I didn't touch the intakes. They were as Dots made them on the original De Havilland Venom As far as I can see he made a hollow fuselage and used 'left fill' and ,'right fill' to get the angles. For more details , you have to ask him.
Interesting plane, but a little hard to land. I would like to make a version of it with the original Seahawk's split flap/air brakes. But I wouldn't want to do anything to your plane without your permission.
Got 10 pieces to spare for labels? The Swiss used this aircraft all into the It's and theit paint scheme is pretty simple: silver all over with some red accent and a white + on a red dot for insignia. Should be able to do this in half an hour.
Flies quite well. The fuselage and tail section definitely looks the part. The wing, halfway..the engines.... Unfortunately not so much. Can you make a version with a flat six engine like the Cessna 310?
@WinsWings I don't think a turboprop would be necessary, may be later for a modernized kitbashed bushplane, but for now the radial engine has up to 2000 HP power. You rated yours at 1200. So you still have some spare. Also a floatplane has the whole ocean for a runway, so it can pack some extra weight.
Ps, if you want to talk things through, hit me up on the Discord server. My handle is the same as here: sockdragger
@Erionh that was Kiiikiii 's original design. He also had six VTOL engines along with the engine in the back, so I guess he needed them. I deleted the two that were bureied in the fuselage but later added one again for the automatic descent control.
That being said, you can always modify the fuselage to your own liking with as little or as much intakes as you want.
Also, the flight controller next to the front wheel is turned upside down. Chase view becomes a lot easier if you rotate it 180°
You can have the amount of fuel in the wings to something like 25.gal's for each of the 4 wing halves. It won't matter much and the plane will take off a lot easier.
It helps when you invert the 'Pitch' input for the center wing panels, or just set the panels to clamp(VTOL,-1,0) instead.
Forget the crop duster. You should market this one as an ULM. With a top speed of 100 mph and a stall speed of 50, it comes pretty close to that ULM feeling.
+1The landing gear wheels are too far back. Move them to the front of your wing or your plane will just dig in as soon as you give throttle on takeoff. Otherwise, pretty solid for only 76 parts.
Still got that leftover engine? I got a leftover plane from the sixties that could use an upgrade.
+1Ailerons too big for my taste. The plane rolls like crazy. Otherwise quite a nice design.
+2Plus sides: beautifully historically accurate cockpit, even for only 200 parts. Minus: no flaps, still standard wings. Flying: pretty pleasant, although I would wish for a top speed more like the original's 500 mph.
+1Worth downloading: yes
Worth flying: yes
Worth upvoting: just did
Takes a little tweaking, but after that it flies remarkably well. Not bad for a first try...
+1Wasn't that the one that crashed because tht autopilot kept pushing its nose down?
+1Congratulations on hitting silver. And congratulations on a plane with more automated features than most of the cars I ever drove.
+1Naa,happens that the A-50 is a pretty hard plane to find plans for so when I got them, I also got a dozen different paint schemes, one better than the other... And I couldn't decide. But this five are definitely the only ones I will ever make. I got enough ideas for other planes.
As for the Klemm 25, with the A-50, Junkers actually set out to make a competitor for it by using the 7 years of progress that happened since the first Klemm was built. In the SimplePlanes build you can't really see it but the whole plane is built out of corrugated aluminum having ribs stick out all over. The Klemm is built out of plywood and it's fuselage is so square you can mistake models of it for toys.
@crazyplaness This one better?
Ok. I'll repost it later with a screenshot thumbnail and post the original picture in the body. I'll also repost all other Junkers A50 's as I have been using real life photos and contents from a model company's website in their thumbnails.
Love the cockpit interior
Congratulations
@DeezDucks I don't know how active you are as a moderator still, but I have a problem. THis aircraft is a successor to my earlier Junkers A50 from Finland but on the page for that plane it doesn't show up as a successor. Did I do something wrong or do I have to specify it there? How does this work when you want to start a challenge and you need a custom successor/entries page?
@HuskyDynamics01 so far it work on one side: the new plane is listed as a successor to the old one but on the old plane's page it doesn't show up that the old plane has a successor now.
I hate to contact the moderator for every plane that I make a successor. But for now it is the only option. Do we have a handle for which to ping the moderator with?
Whaa, Geocities still exists?
I second @DARZAVIATION: it would be nice to choose which parts you do NOT want to mirror I keep having that -well, it's not really a problem, rather an inconvenience- that if I have to redo something on both sides of the plane and I already have a cockpit interior, I can either do both sides by hand or mirror and redo the cockpit ( all instruments and flight controls are mirrored by default. I think just having an offset to define which CENTER Or FUSELAGE parts should not be mirrored would already go a long way.
The same thing with flaps and ailerons, especially when you use funky code to mix ailerons with pitch or flaps. When you mirror your wing, you are almost certain to have to rewrite half of the code. I could live though with just the option: replace parts already mirrored/leave parts already mirrored for leaving the old wing as is even if you replace the tips.
Hurray, it flies. It even flies pretty good
@xXLouisPlayzXx ok. I'll be watching your progress with interest.
First order of things: add some ailerons
Eagerly awaiting the next version.
+1Not bad for 72 parts. And a nice color scheme as well (I would have wished for some insignias though) . Also the first thing I had to do is put 200 lb of extra weight in the nose to keep it from constantly stalling
+1@Rob119 @DeeganWithABazooka : New version with improved handling in hover mode.
I made it flat and fat because the original idea was to have a ramp in the back for boarding the space ninjas or their rocket motorcycles. May be a future version.....
I agree. This plane should have gotten a dozen upvotes 4 months ago.
+1Congratulations on making silver.
+1Hey, guess what. I just landed your plane on USS Beast
Looks Quite cool, flies like a breeze. My only regret is that for a jet liner, even an experimental one, it should have a top speed bigger than 270 mph.
Also, if you get tired of the current livery, just open the paint tool and circle through the color schemes. The plane looks marvelous in every color, even if in 'green slime' it looks a bit like a Matchbox toy.
I love the details on the interior. Too bad I never figured out how to open the doors.
@MrSternMC9MM I didn't touch the intakes. They were as Dots made them on the original De Havilland Venom As far as I can see he made a hollow fuselage and used 'left fill' and ,'right fill' to get the angles. For more details , you have to ask him.
@winswings. Oh, sh't. I won bronze.
+1@WinsWings I just try to see what's possible and learn. And do a lot of flight testing... You're still ahead of me in points a 100 times
+1Not five hours, but you could make 10 videos about your next build where you cover section by section with lots of room for comments
Swift air? Does it sing?
Neat little plane. I wouldn't have given it infinite fuel though. It's a rubber band plane. It's supposed to run for one minute and then glide home
Interesting plane, but a little hard to land. I would like to make a version of it with the original Seahawk's split flap/air brakes. But I wouldn't want to do anything to your plane without your permission.
Got 10 pieces to spare for labels? The Swiss used this aircraft all into the It's and theit paint scheme is pretty simple: silver all over with some red accent and a white + on a red dot for insignia. Should be able to do this in half an hour.
https://images.app.goo.gl/hisBnVji8spySGNx5
Uea, one tries. And sometimes one gets it right. Too bad I couldn't get the typical Junkers corrugated metal look.
+1Not bad for 105 parts. I love it. Especially the paint scheme
+1Flies quite well. The fuselage and tail section definitely looks the part. The wing, halfway..the engines.... Unfortunately not so much. Can you make a version with a flat six engine like the Cessna 310?
+1Good try. Some issues with the wing and the flaps but otherwise a solid build, and most importantly a real nice looking graft.
+1By Jove, you did it
+1Waauw. A true acrobatic plane
I see you already got a classic Porsche 911, what about a classic Porsche 356? Up to you whether you do the hardtop or cabrio version.
@WinsWings I don't think a turboprop would be necessary, may be later for a modernized kitbashed bushplane, but for now the radial engine has up to 2000 HP power. You rated yours at 1200. So you still have some spare. Also a floatplane has the whole ocean for a runway, so it can pack some extra weight.
Ps, if you want to talk things through, hit me up on the Discord server. My handle is the same as here: sockdragger
+2Love the way the automatic flaps work.
+1Next up? floatplane version for all Canadian bush pilots who want to fly in the summer as well?