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SU-57

Mod Squirrel  11 days ago
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This is the SU-57. Probably one of my favourite aircraft next to the B-36, YF-23 and SU-35. The fact I’ve produced 3 “replicas” of it throughout the duration of using this game is testament to that. However, this replica is probably the best one I’ve made. It’s not much but I made an active effort to get it as close to real as my current skills would allow. I’ll be honest, I didn’t opt for accuracy on speed or agility. I mainly built this for aesthetics and to make it fun to fly, which it ticks both boxes for. However, I might come back to it and update it with realistic specs later.

A Bit of a Rant

The SU-57 is a “5th generation” aircraft. Which I appreciate is a controversial thing to say given a lot of self-proclaimed media “experts” seem to think it isn’t on the premise it’s not as stealthy as the F-22, amongst other things. Which I think is a bit of a hypocritical baseline on the premise the F-22 was less stealthy than the YF-23. To be clear, I’m not saying one I definitively better than the other.

The SU-57 uses radar absorbent material (composite materials) as well as a radar dissipating structure (through geometric shaping of the wings in relation to the tail, etc.) as opposed to just one or the other, it’s radar cross section is a fraction of its predecessor, it can carry internal weapons, is claimed to have data linking technology as well as other 5th generation aspects. No matter how you cut the cake, it undoubtably is objectively a stealth aircraft and one with capabilities that are in line with both the F-22 and F-35 (although to what scale is widely debated).

Media critics are quick to point out that the SU-57 cannot currently supercruise in its current state (new engines are set to be installed on them soon that will allow it to supercruise). For those that don’t know supercruise is the ability to fly at Mach 1 without afterburners. Anyway, the F-35 is also insufficient in this area. While it can supercruise, it can’t do it for long durations without damaging the engine. As a result, Lockheed Martin were cheeky enough to basically change the definition of what they classed as a 5th generation aircraft so it didn’t include supercruise capability, thus making the F-35 a viable 5th generation plane by their definition. Clearly someone forgot to tell some people about this change.

Another argument some make is that the SU-57 doesn’t have the same data linking capability of the F-35. My first issue with this is how reporters got a hold of such (most likely) classified information and secondly, the F-22 most likely doesn’t have the same capability either since it was developed a lot earlier.

In conclusion, to say the SU-57 is not a stealth plane simultaneously dethroning the F-22 and F-35 collectively from their 5th generation status.

rant over
I also may have made the same rant 3 years ago… But apparently it’s still an issue.

Controls

  • Activator 1 – 3D thrust vectoring
  • Activator 2 – Stunt mode (rapidly decelerates aircraft so you can perform cobra, etc. recommended throttle is about 30%)
  • Activator 3 – Weapons arming
  • Activator 4 – Drag chutes
  • Activator 5 – Afterburner
  • Activator 8 – Lights

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General Characteristics

  • Successors 1 airplane(s)
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 51.6ft (15.7m)
  • Length 72.2ft (22.0m)
  • Height 16.4ft (5.0m)
  • Empty Weight 9,845lbs (4,465kg)
  • Loaded Weight 33,360lbs (15,132kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 8.487
  • Wing Loading 11.9lbs/ft2 (58.1kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 2,803.5ft2 (260.5m2)
  • Drag Points 2344

Parts

  • Number of Parts 289
  • Control Surfaces 6
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    1,975 ViciousTNT

    I might as well just put three scratches on the tail, mount some pulse lasers and call myself Trigger

    6 days ago
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    1,484 AJosh92FS

    The control surface's behaviour looks realistic for me. Awesome!

    7 days ago
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    3,914 Viper3000ad

    Very nice !

    7 days ago
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    270 Liensis

    @Squirrel I think he means the screenshots you made with it flying and the ones with blueprint drawings.

    8 days ago
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    Mod Squirrel

    @Chancey21 I didn't change any screenshots?

    8 days ago
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    47.9k Chancey21

    How did you change the screenshots after you uploaded it? @Squirrel

    9 days ago
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    7,355 Ariathe

    I loved the Su-57 when it was first revealed, and when they finished it in the new digital camouflage, I fell in love with it even more! This looks so well done!

    +1 10 days ago
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    480 Lambojuli

    You get an Upvote just for the pictures!! 😍

    +1 10 days ago
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    70.2k MAHADI

    so accurate design!

    +1 11 days ago
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    @Squirrel
    The E.E. Lightning was actually the first aircraft in history to super-cruise without A/B. The final variant of the Lightning, the F.6, was able to stand toe-to-toe with the F-15 Eagles of the time... at least before it runs out of fuel... ;)

    +5 11 days ago
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    Mod Squirrel

    @JohnnyBoythePilot I think the F-35 is a great airframe and they made the best out of an awkward design spec for it. It's not easy designing one aircraft with three roles in mind.
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    I must admit that I'm a bit cautious about the whole afterburner thing. For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Meaning if you need afterburner to get you sufficient thrust to get above a Mach number, then you need it to stay there too. I imagine they use afterburner to get to the supercruise speed quicker though as I imagine it would take a while to reach such a speed one the extra drag from transonic speeds starts to take hold.
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    There are actually a surprising number of aircraft that are capable of supercruise. I'm pretty sure the English Electric Lightning was capable of achieving supercruise, so while a great bonus to the aircraft, it's not as big of an achievement as it first appears to be (although that's still a big engineering achievement).
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    I think what you're thinking about with taxiing is using extra thrust to overcome rolling friction from the tires.

    +3 11 days ago
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    And while the F-35 is a fairly chubby plane, a lot of that wide body acts as a lifting surface. Martin Marietta, a company Lockheed merged with to form Lockheed Martin, experimented with wingless flying-body designs, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if LockMart incorporated lifting-body design ques in their F-22 and F-35 aircraft based off the research & data gained from Martin Marietta. The wide F-35 body is also due to it having weapon bays.

    11 days ago
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    @Squirrel
    I read the F-35 needs afterburner to reach Mach 1, but once it gets there, it will cruise at Mach 1 without A/B. I think the Eurofighter & Rafale are like that too. Think of it as an airplane starting to taxi; You apply quite a bit of power to get the plane moving, but once its moving, you can bring back the power since it won't take much to keep it moving. I think the F-22 is the only fighter in the world that can reach Mach 1 without A/B and stay there.

    11 days ago
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    Well, anything that looks good and can do the mission is a pass for me. I am still waiting for a prop fighter destroy a 4th gen aircraft

    +2 11 days ago
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    Kale!

    11 days ago
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    1,080 Syabil

    @Squirrel nice i like su57
    You make it mobile friendly

    +1 11 days ago
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    Mod Squirrel

    @Aeromen Also notice in this image how all the "flaps/ailerons" are pointing downwards. But yes, long story short the control surfaces do behave like that on the actual SU-57. With the exception of maybe the added aileron input for yaw. I just made that up to counter the added roll of by the rudder. Also, speaking of yaw, the SU-57 doesn't have a traditional air brake, it just squashes its rudders together to create extra drag.

    +2 11 days ago
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    Mod Squirrel

    @Aeromen If you're referring to the flap action, I put that in to counter the downward force of the flaps.
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    The elevators on the SU-57 aren't really just just standard elevators. Firstly, they're what is called an all moving tailplane, meaning the whole surface moves instead of just one tab from the horizontal stabiliser. They're also not just elevators, they're technically elevons meaning they act as ailerons as well as elevators. The Flaps/ailerons aren't single use either, they're called flaperons meaning that the control surface acts as both a flap and an aileron.
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    Here's a video showing the surfaces moving. When you look carefully you'll see that all the surfaces appear to be able to move independently from one another due to the fact that the control surfaces don't just have a single purpose. If you look at the "elevators" for example, you'll notice the far one moves up while the other one doesn't and vice versa.

    +2 11 days ago
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    ahh so this is what you've been flying around in multiplayer

    +1 11 days ago
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    14.3k Aeromen

    @Squirrel The elevators really move like that in the real plane?

    11 days ago
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    Mod Squirrel

    @JohnnyBoythePilot The F-35 is to put it bluntly a very fat plane and fat planes produce a lot of drag. The F135 engine is an exceptional engine and provides the F-35 with a much needed boost in power and thus giving it a similar thrust to weight ratio of the Gripen.
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    However, moving at supersonic speeds gives an exponential increase in drag. All of a sudden, the engine has to work a lot harder to maintain those mach 1+ speeds. And without afterburner. Meaning the moving components and the combustion chamber are subject to higher temperatures than what the engine was originally designed for to maintain those supercruise speeds. At which point it's a bit like microwaving food. You can keep the microwave on for a duration of time, but eventually, you're going to burn the food. Its a similar case with the engine. It can keep running while it heats up, but there will eventually be a point of no return where the components start to fail.
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    Now I must admit, this is 100% speculation on my behalf. I haven't read too much into it, but to me, this seems like the most likely reason as to why the F-35 is limited to 150 miles of supercruise.
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    Edit: Afterburner is obviously done at the rear of the engine and after all the critical moving parts and thus isn't really contributing a huge amount of heat to the core of the engine.

    +4 11 days ago
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    1,298 Carbonfox1

    I love the Su-57 as well, but damn is it a wideboi! lol

    11 days ago
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    I personally love the Su-57 design and I think it'll be a great fighter for Russia. You did an excellent job with this one. Although I have to ask with that comment about F-35 super-cruising; how would super-cruising for long duration damage the engine? Your literally at mach 1 without afterburners because you have enough engine power to get there without it.

    11 days ago
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    5,116 shipster

    Lol @RailfanEthan

    11 days ago
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    5,116 shipster

    Really nice

    11 days ago
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