@Karroc9522 there are more challenges coming. I was really happy with the success and reach of these one, even though so far there is only a staggering 8 successors (despite 10000 downloads)
@MA2211CwCABaerospace just letting you know, your final plane must be submitted as a successor. That's an absolute need... I can't keep cycling between web pages later while doing the ratings
@TheMouse Sure I do! I've been testing some other people's stuff behind the scenes and I love what you guys are coming up with. You can share some progress reports on discord too, if you wanna.
@Dracul0Anderson I see. Well, if you feel like there are potentially major changes you would like to have made. Do them now. There is a slight chance I would have to extend the deadline due to certain circumstances in real life that will limit me being able to get to the results handing out by 16th.
@StockPlanesRemastered because if you can't read them at all then that's not a size problem... I can definitely read it, I'm on phone. I had some checks with a few other people before even putting those up. And it can't be a network issue unless you have under 3-5mbps
Still, I'll try to make sure the font is bigger next time. Furthermore, there is already a section where I'm using ordinary text. It's just WIP.
@wahl yes. Maybe you can be excused of permission if
1) they don't respond
2) its been used by the community numerous times before
3) things like PlanariaLab's HUD are completely excused because the original ceator have express permission
dwiangaska takes some parts from Guyfolk's planes and I don't think he puts the credits in the descriptions anymore IIRC because a lot of people use those parts. I'm an example. I do mention it, because I almost always depend on them
@Dracul0Anderson heck yeah I do. It's the toughest part of the challenge. Even VTOL would be okay. Don't worry, we'll go a little more lenient on that one. You lose only 3-4 points if you go up to 15-16 G's instantaneous... But from there and above, you start losing points quick.
@windshifter1 no. It doesn't disqualify you. I don't have to worry about self promotion since that's by default not allowed. If you use an alt, I'll hold you accountable for breaking Rule 8 which prohibits any type of cheating and disqualify on that basis.
I'll start a discord server by tomorrow for the people who have volunteered to upvote. Over Time, after that, I may be able to increase the upvote prize, but I'll have to discuss that with you all.
@SupremeDorian I'll prerequisite with this --- I'll never myself abuse the system.
Now, that said, the irony of that whole ordeal is that the rules for the site don't state that you are not allowed to use alts to help other players. It has a clear rule stating against Upvoting yourself but nothing for Upvoting someone else. So even if I went through with that plan, I'd have all the reasons to defend myself this time around.
But massive respect to you for confirming that we'll in advance. I appreciate that. Helps with the clarity... I'll just really REALLY have to setup that discord and get whoever those 5 are (I don't remember everyone's names) and just start the discussion of how we go about this and if everyone will have the time.
@11qazxc actually, frick the adding text, I'll do that, but I'll also work on revamping all those images AND keeping the size low. These current images really need a revamp. I mean, they look okay, but don't match with the theme and need a rework. I'll probably keep all the rules and words the exact same- add one or two clarifications, more imagery about what kind of jet we looking for, such and such. All details that won't affect what players have already started working on. Also, let me know if you want to join a discord server specifically for this challenge
When you said vector engines I was confused. I thought you meant seperate engines just for pitch vector control. If you meant thrust vectoring nozzles like on the F-22, then, of course, those are absolutely allowed!
And encouraged too. You cant really outdo an F-22 without outdoing it's engineering.
@JSTQ oh trust me, I've used many before. I just didn't upload any of those because I was never satisfied using engines as... "Cheats" when you could do the same with actual control surfaces.
The closest I got to using engines is this, which is less engines, more Gyros specifically tuned to be like limiting agents for post stall maneuvers is this
@JSTQ wait, vector engine???? What do you mean? You cant use fakery. You'll lose innovation points AND Realism and believablilty. Be careful. No real plane just has space for tiny engines to make corrections, so unless you have a proper lore explanation, don't risk fakery like that. Make it proper aerodynamic control surfaces that limit those vectors.
@JSTQ you'll just lose points for that particular criteria. That doesn't disqualify you. It just makes it really difficult to win since you automatically made yourself lose 40 or so points.
@11qazxc for oscillations, I'll be checking if the plane has the adverse effect of using over sensitive limitors and starts oscillation due to over correction at any given speed. Notice how there is no particular speed requirement and it's just so long as it's still plausible (so atleast mach 1.4+... We are making a "next gen" after all)
Perfectly level is just checking pitch, roll and yaw angle when inputs are dead. If it all stays lower than a forgiveable threshold (-+2 degrees), then you get as close as possible to max marks.
@Boeing727200F I added another slide with more clarification on what me saying that means. I'll be a little more careful about stuff like that. Let me know if you see anything else that's not properly clarified.
@Axartar I have a very similar plan actually. Entering itself won't be hard. Getting the prize will be.
If you have anyone else who has the same ideas or interests as you right now, let them know this posts exists. The more of a collaboration I can encourage, the better. This is meant to be the grand bye bye to Simpleplanes 1, after all.
@Karroc9522 there are more challenges coming. I was really happy with the success and reach of these one, even though so far there is only a staggering 8 successors (despite 10000 downloads)
+1You have like- 15? 15 hours left
+1@TheUltimatePlaneLover
+1@Karroc9522
And of course, mouse. Great work guys! Really appreciate the efforts that went into this plane!
Thanks for helping him out with that, Dorian!
+1LET'S FRICKIN GOOOO
+1@TheMouse I did. Sorry for having you worried there
+1@MA2211CwCABaerospace Again, wishing the best to you!
+1@MA2211CwCABaerospace just letting you know, your final plane must be submitted as a successor. That's an absolute need... I can't keep cycling between web pages later while doing the ratings
+1Lmao what even
+1HIGGGHHWAYYYY TO THE DANGER ZONE
+1@TriStar its selective blocking... I think. I could be wrong about that
+1@keiyronelleavgeek566 @32 oh dude I couldnt even see Keiy's comments for a while there for some reason, I'm blind 😭
+1@TheMouse Sure I do! I've been testing some other people's stuff behind the scenes and I love what you guys are coming up with. You can share some progress reports on discord too, if you wanna.
+1That jammer Idea is so interesting. I'm curious, why go for an orange paint scheme?
+1@RestlessGalaxies participation rewards have been handed out already to you. Excited to see what you have so far!
+1@Dracul0Anderson I see. Well, if you feel like there are potentially major changes you would like to have made. Do them now. There is a slight chance I would have to extend the deadline due to certain circumstances in real life that will limit me being able to get to the results handing out by 16th.
+1@MA2211CwCABaerospace anytime brother, anytime.
+1@StockPlanesRemastered because if you can't read them at all then that's not a size problem... I can definitely read it, I'm on phone. I had some checks with a few other people before even putting those up. And it can't be a network issue unless you have under 3-5mbps
Still, I'll try to make sure the font is bigger next time. Furthermore, there is already a section where I'm using ordinary text. It's just WIP.
+1@wahl yes. Maybe you can be excused of permission if
1) they don't respond
2) its been used by the community numerous times before
3) things like PlanariaLab's HUD are completely excused because the original ceator have express permission
dwiangaska takes some parts from Guyfolk's planes and I don't think he puts the credits in the descriptions anymore IIRC because a lot of people use those parts. I'm an example. I do mention it, because I almost always depend on them
+1@Dracul0Anderson heck yeah I do. It's the toughest part of the challenge. Even VTOL would be okay. Don't worry, we'll go a little more lenient on that one. You lose only 3-4 points if you go up to 15-16 G's instantaneous... But from there and above, you start losing points quick.
+1Youve been improving a lot
+1@ToeTips it has to be a successor
+1@windshifter1 no. It doesn't disqualify you. I don't have to worry about self promotion since that's by default not allowed. If you use an alt, I'll hold you accountable for breaking Rule 8 which prohibits any type of cheating and disqualify on that basis.
I'll start a discord server by tomorrow for the people who have volunteered to upvote. Over Time, after that, I may be able to increase the upvote prize, but I'll have to discuss that with you all.
+1@Dracul0Anderson 😶
+1Jesus Christ... Okay.
@SupremeDorian I'll prerequisite with this --- I'll never myself abuse the system.
Now, that said, the irony of that whole ordeal is that the rules for the site don't state that you are not allowed to use alts to help other players. It has a clear rule stating against Upvoting yourself but nothing for Upvoting someone else. So even if I went through with that plan, I'd have all the reasons to defend myself this time around.
But massive respect to you for confirming that we'll in advance. I appreciate that. Helps with the clarity... I'll just really REALLY have to setup that discord and get whoever those 5 are (I don't remember everyone's names) and just start the discussion of how we go about this and if everyone will have the time.
+1@11qazxc actually, frick the adding text, I'll do that, but I'll also work on revamping all those images AND keeping the size low. These current images really need a revamp. I mean, they look okay, but don't match with the theme and need a rework. I'll probably keep all the rules and words the exact same- add one or two clarifications, more imagery about what kind of jet we looking for, such and such. All details that won't affect what players have already started working on. Also, let me know if you want to join a discord server specifically for this challenge
+1@JSTQ sorry! I'm big on science fiction and speculative fiction... So I thought it was that, my bad!
+1@JSTQ wait, do you mean thrust vector engines?
When you said vector engines I was confused. I thought you meant seperate engines just for pitch vector control. If you meant thrust vectoring nozzles like on the F-22, then, of course, those are absolutely allowed!
And encouraged too. You cant really outdo an F-22 without outdoing it's engineering.
+1@JSTQ oh trust me, I've used many before. I just didn't upload any of those because I was never satisfied using engines as... "Cheats" when you could do the same with actual control surfaces.
The closest I got to using engines is this, which is less engines, more Gyros specifically tuned to be like limiting agents for post stall maneuvers is this
+1@JSTQ wait, vector engine???? What do you mean? You cant use fakery. You'll lose innovation points AND Realism and believablilty. Be careful. No real plane just has space for tiny engines to make corrections, so unless you have a proper lore explanation, don't risk fakery like that. Make it proper aerodynamic control surfaces that limit those vectors.
I should probably also make that a rule
+1@JSTQ you'll just lose points for that particular criteria. That doesn't disqualify you. It just makes it really difficult to win since you automatically made yourself lose 40 or so points.
+1@JBPAviation all the best 😭
+1@11qazxc also, for the internet thing, I'll put it all in text by tomorrow.
+1@supersuperthesylph
+1@themouse
@jpbaviation
@11qazxc for oscillations, I'll be checking if the plane has the adverse effect of using over sensitive limitors and starts oscillation due to over correction at any given speed. Notice how there is no particular speed requirement and it's just so long as it's still plausible (so atleast mach 1.4+... We are making a "next gen" after all)
+1Perfectly level is just checking pitch, roll and yaw angle when inputs are dead. If it all stays lower than a forgiveable threshold (-+2 degrees), then you get as close as possible to max marks.
@Boeing727200F I added another slide with more clarification on what me saying that means. I'll be a little more careful about stuff like that. Let me know if you see anything else that's not properly clarified.
+1@mahoots
+1@beasthunter
@lunareclipseSP
@Axartar I have a very similar plan actually. Entering itself won't be hard. Getting the prize will be.
+1If you have anyone else who has the same ideas or interests as you right now, let them know this posts exists. The more of a collaboration I can encourage, the better. This is meant to be the grand bye bye to Simpleplanes 1, after all.
@SkyJayTheFirst alright! Good to know! So far this plan seems like a go ahead.
Next... @Crazyplaness
+1Is there anything against using alts to meet a prize pool for a challenge?
@SuperSuperTheSylph @ShinyGemsBro
[WARNING : MAY BE CALLED FALSE GOD AND GET MAULED]
Not that ridiculous, jokes aside (YES, THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS A JOKE). I'm thinking about doing a next gen fighter but with VTOL and air superiority
+1Omg hiiiii it's meeeee Greggory!
+1Shit... This feels like a personal attack 💀😭
+1@TheMouse thanks man. That helps out a little. I'll see if I can do that later. Again, Thanks!
+1@Noname918181818181818181 TRUE.
+1aw man, congrats on the big hundo, real proud of this!
+1@EagleMan010 frrrr bro's the representative of half of the world's men
+1(The other half gave up)
@EagleMan010 YES, EAGLE MAN. HEHEHEHEHEHE.
+1(He's still looking for eagle lady)
@Rb2h but you did notice so fat W
+1@MosquitowithaMachineGun Oh ma gawd the Mosquito with a Machine Gun lore goes hard here 😭
+1also this reminds me of chicken tendies
oh no
@MosquitowithaMachineGun 💀
+1