@windshifter1 no. It doesn't disqualify you. I don't have to worry about self promotion since that's by default not allowed. If you use an alt, I'll hold you accountable for breaking Rule 8 which prohibits any type of cheating and disqualify on that basis.
I'll start a discord server by tomorrow for the people who have volunteered to upvote. Over Time, after that, I may be able to increase the upvote prize, but I'll have to discuss that with you all.
@SupremeDorian I'll prerequisite with this --- I'll never myself abuse the system.
Now, that said, the irony of that whole ordeal is that the rules for the site don't state that you are not allowed to use alts to help other players. It has a clear rule stating against Upvoting yourself but nothing for Upvoting someone else. So even if I went through with that plan, I'd have all the reasons to defend myself this time around.
But massive respect to you for confirming that we'll in advance. I appreciate that. Helps with the clarity... I'll just really REALLY have to setup that discord and get whoever those 5 are (I don't remember everyone's names) and just start the discussion of how we go about this and if everyone will have the time.
@11qazxc actually, frick the adding text, I'll do that, but I'll also work on revamping all those images AND keeping the size low. These current images really need a revamp. I mean, they look okay, but don't match with the theme and need a rework. I'll probably keep all the rules and words the exact same- add one or two clarifications, more imagery about what kind of jet we looking for, such and such. All details that won't affect what players have already started working on. Also, let me know if you want to join a discord server specifically for this challenge
When you said vector engines I was confused. I thought you meant seperate engines just for pitch vector control. If you meant thrust vectoring nozzles like on the F-22, then, of course, those are absolutely allowed!
And encouraged too. You cant really outdo an F-22 without outdoing it's engineering.
@JSTQ oh trust me, I've used many before. I just didn't upload any of those because I was never satisfied using engines as... "Cheats" when you could do the same with actual control surfaces.
The closest I got to using engines is this, which is less engines, more Gyros specifically tuned to be like limiting agents for post stall maneuvers is this
@JSTQ wait, vector engine???? What do you mean? You cant use fakery. You'll lose innovation points AND Realism and believablilty. Be careful. No real plane just has space for tiny engines to make corrections, so unless you have a proper lore explanation, don't risk fakery like that. Make it proper aerodynamic control surfaces that limit those vectors.
@JSTQ you'll just lose points for that particular criteria. That doesn't disqualify you. It just makes it really difficult to win since you automatically made yourself lose 40 or so points.
@11qazxc for oscillations, I'll be checking if the plane has the adverse effect of using over sensitive limitors and starts oscillation due to over correction at any given speed. Notice how there is no particular speed requirement and it's just so long as it's still plausible (so atleast mach 1.4+... We are making a "next gen" after all)
Perfectly level is just checking pitch, roll and yaw angle when inputs are dead. If it all stays lower than a forgiveable threshold (-+2 degrees), then you get as close as possible to max marks.
@Boeing727200F I added another slide with more clarification on what me saying that means. I'll be a little more careful about stuff like that. Let me know if you see anything else that's not properly clarified.
@Axartar I have a very similar plan actually. Entering itself won't be hard. Getting the prize will be.
If you have anyone else who has the same ideas or interests as you right now, let them know this posts exists. The more of a collaboration I can encourage, the better. This is meant to be the grand bye bye to Simpleplanes 1, after all.
By far one of the most innovative and clean fictional designs on the site to the point where I'm willing to question the plausibility, especially looking at the new images of all the "Real" 6th gens as well. I am really happy I got to be a part of the process of getting it out here and really hope it reaches the recognition it deserves. Amazing work as always, Jay!
@Chaunhkhoa Mita from MiSide. For some context, The game picked up enough recognition to rival the success of DDLC, which has a lot of similarities to this one.
She got memed a lot so I thought that it's a fun little reference to add.
@Solent19 it's always interesting to see other stories stem from Simpleplanes. I've had a lot of things that I learnt from this site, so it's awesome to know I'm not the only one!
Cheers to arguably one of the best sandbox games in the history of sandbox games
And here's to wishing the dev team a merry christmas and a happy new year!
Youve been improving a lot
+1@ToeTips it has to be a successor
+1@windshifter1 no. It doesn't disqualify you. I don't have to worry about self promotion since that's by default not allowed. If you use an alt, I'll hold you accountable for breaking Rule 8 which prohibits any type of cheating and disqualify on that basis.
I'll start a discord server by tomorrow for the people who have volunteered to upvote. Over Time, after that, I may be able to increase the upvote prize, but I'll have to discuss that with you all.
+1@Dracul0Anderson 😶
+1Jesus Christ... Okay.
@SupremeDorian I'll prerequisite with this --- I'll never myself abuse the system.
Now, that said, the irony of that whole ordeal is that the rules for the site don't state that you are not allowed to use alts to help other players. It has a clear rule stating against Upvoting yourself but nothing for Upvoting someone else. So even if I went through with that plan, I'd have all the reasons to defend myself this time around.
But massive respect to you for confirming that we'll in advance. I appreciate that. Helps with the clarity... I'll just really REALLY have to setup that discord and get whoever those 5 are (I don't remember everyone's names) and just start the discussion of how we go about this and if everyone will have the time.
+1@11qazxc actually, frick the adding text, I'll do that, but I'll also work on revamping all those images AND keeping the size low. These current images really need a revamp. I mean, they look okay, but don't match with the theme and need a rework. I'll probably keep all the rules and words the exact same- add one or two clarifications, more imagery about what kind of jet we looking for, such and such. All details that won't affect what players have already started working on. Also, let me know if you want to join a discord server specifically for this challenge
+1@JSTQ sorry! I'm big on science fiction and speculative fiction... So I thought it was that, my bad!
+1@JSTQ wait, do you mean thrust vector engines?
When you said vector engines I was confused. I thought you meant seperate engines just for pitch vector control. If you meant thrust vectoring nozzles like on the F-22, then, of course, those are absolutely allowed!
And encouraged too. You cant really outdo an F-22 without outdoing it's engineering.
+1@JSTQ oh trust me, I've used many before. I just didn't upload any of those because I was never satisfied using engines as... "Cheats" when you could do the same with actual control surfaces.
The closest I got to using engines is this, which is less engines, more Gyros specifically tuned to be like limiting agents for post stall maneuvers is this
+1@JSTQ wait, vector engine???? What do you mean? You cant use fakery. You'll lose innovation points AND Realism and believablilty. Be careful. No real plane just has space for tiny engines to make corrections, so unless you have a proper lore explanation, don't risk fakery like that. Make it proper aerodynamic control surfaces that limit those vectors.
I should probably also make that a rule
+1@JSTQ you'll just lose points for that particular criteria. That doesn't disqualify you. It just makes it really difficult to win since you automatically made yourself lose 40 or so points.
+1@JBPAviation all the best 😭
+1@11qazxc also, for the internet thing, I'll put it all in text by tomorrow.
+1@supersuperthesylph
+1@themouse
@jpbaviation
@11qazxc for oscillations, I'll be checking if the plane has the adverse effect of using over sensitive limitors and starts oscillation due to over correction at any given speed. Notice how there is no particular speed requirement and it's just so long as it's still plausible (so atleast mach 1.4+... We are making a "next gen" after all)
+1Perfectly level is just checking pitch, roll and yaw angle when inputs are dead. If it all stays lower than a forgiveable threshold (-+2 degrees), then you get as close as possible to max marks.
@Boeing727200F I added another slide with more clarification on what me saying that means. I'll be a little more careful about stuff like that. Let me know if you see anything else that's not properly clarified.
+1@mahoots
+1@beasthunter
@lunareclipseSP
@Axartar I have a very similar plan actually. Entering itself won't be hard. Getting the prize will be.
+1If you have anyone else who has the same ideas or interests as you right now, let them know this posts exists. The more of a collaboration I can encourage, the better. This is meant to be the grand bye bye to Simpleplanes 1, after all.
@SkyJayTheFirst alright! Good to know! So far this plan seems like a go ahead.
Next... @Crazyplaness
+1Is there anything against using alts to meet a prize pool for a challenge?
Shit... This feels like a personal attack 💀😭
+1@TheMouse thanks man. That helps out a little. I'll see if I can do that later. Again, Thanks!
+1@Noname918181818181818181 TRUE.
+1aw man, congrats on the big hundo, real proud of this!
+1@EagleMan010 frrrr bro's the representative of half of the world's men
+1(The other half gave up)
@EagleMan010 YES, EAGLE MAN. HEHEHEHEHEHE.
+1(He's still looking for eagle lady)
@Rb2h but you did notice so fat W
+1@MosquitowithaMachineGun Oh ma gawd the Mosquito with a Machine Gun lore goes hard here 😭
+1also this reminds me of chicken tendies
oh no
@MosquitowithaMachineGun 💀
+1"Give me one good reason to not call you a knockoff F-22"
+1"I'm cute as heck"
"Okay fair enough."
By far one of the most innovative and clean fictional designs on the site to the point where I'm willing to question the plausibility, especially looking at the new images of all the "Real" 6th gens as well. I am really happy I got to be a part of the process of getting it out here and really hope it reaches the recognition it deserves. Amazing work as always, Jay!
+1What a Fat W
+1@SomeSPGuyWhoLikesLore xD yeah. I actually forgot to give the thing an exhaust as well unfortunately
+1@Chaunhkhoa Mita from MiSide. For some context, The game picked up enough recognition to rival the success of DDLC, which has a lot of similarities to this one.
She got memed a lot so I thought that it's a fun little reference to add.
+1@YarisSedan a month or so at most... Maybe March.
+1If I make one, I'll make it look good so that you'll get some actual joy from crushing it
@TheUltimatePlaneLover
+1@Boeing727200F [I can't actually make it train proof my bad man 😭 ]
@CaptainBrayden
@blt
+1@SuperSuperTheSylph
@ChaseplaneKLWith1MG
You basically my dream design in simpleplanes. I'm in love
+1T
+1By the way, as promised, I'm working on matching the upvotes too. Of course, since I got first, I'll be giving 30 to 2nd, 15 to third and so on.
+1@SkyJayTheFirst in my eyes, you did. Your plane is very well made.
+1Congratulations!
+1trust me, this plane is an absolute BANGER
T
+1Holy crap Rambo you can't start off my year with the type of plane I've always wanted to make!😭
Thank you, this is unironically one of the best gifts I could ask for during a new year
+1@Solent19 it's always interesting to see other stories stem from Simpleplanes. I've had a lot of things that I learnt from this site, so it's awesome to know I'm not the only one!
+1Cheers to arguably one of the best sandbox games in the history of sandbox games
+1And here's to wishing the dev team a merry christmas and a happy new year!
ITS A FRICKIN METEORRRRRRRRRRr
+1@LunarEclipseSP this is what you get when an F-18 had too much fun at a club with flankers
+1@YarisSedan BRO!?
Also, I caught you red handed in 4k
Side note, I'm here because of the Christmas post
+1Absolutely nothing else.
Just the Christmas post.
@Potato21 xD
+1@JSTQ ayyyy good to know, thank you!
+1