@Pilotmario at the risk of starting this off again, One common saying / question asked was how you could get your own F-104. The answer was, “Buy a plot of land and wait for a Starfighter to crash on it.” Canada lost over 100 of its 200 aircraft, Germany had 917 and lost 270 with 110 pilots lost..... I think it earned it's reputation. Yes they may have been using it for multiple roles that it wasn't initially designed for BUT it was sold to them as capable of those roles.
Guys/girls, end of argument, I like both tsr2 and the valkerie. I'd have posted my simpleplanes valkerie before this but I did it without mods so needs adapting. No more arguments plix, interesting as they are (ps wiki shouldn't be used for referencing as my degree lecturers kept telling me :p )
@BogdanX sorry, I wasn't being aggressive, seriously I just want to know how to colour it differently, the game seems to limit me but if monotone isn't everyone's cup of tea what can I do?
OK so how do you do two tone on a game that only let's you colour specific parts? I only built it as a request of someone, I can re-colours it in a fantasy colour scheme if u want?
@F104Deathtrap yeah your not wrong (look at the ee lightning to Germany deal, oh look they ended up with starfighters/ new holes in fields).TSR-2 was cancelled due to rising costs, in favour of purchasing an adapted version of the General Dynamics F-111, a decision that itself was later rescinded as costs and development times increased..... I think that says a lot about the politics of the time. Tsr was never designed to be hypersonic, and even in test flights it out accelerated the lightning I understand (the lightning out accelerated the early f15s in climbs and f105s for fun.) Still enjoyed the build though
Almost every part has collisions disabled, I could have increased the rotation of the undercarriage legs but I wanted them to be in the scale location, if sp didn't have slogger or the rotators it wouldn't be a problem with wheels appearing through the doors, but to be fair you wouldn't pull that hard in real life, I could limit the elevator movement to also solve this. As for the gear doors I didn't want to start messing about and having parts on different numbers, again all I needed was sp to have a cycle option on rotators instead I have to use 2 sets... I was more concerned with getting the doors so you had them open and an option to shut after wheels are retracted. Which way is it auto rolling? I fly with a joystick and it was fine.
@Awsomur if you mean wobbly on the ground, that's a mix of simpleplanes wheel dynamics and the narrow track undercarriage, I tried to iron out as much as possible but still needs some rudder input during takeoff
@GhostHTX thanks people, I felt this was better than a direct comment to a post we are all aware of =) it did turn out nice, still flawed in places (wing tips, nose length etc) but it was starting to take ages to tweak. Not the nicest of aircraft to model mind, if only the comment had been about a javelin or mirage....
@Tang0five ty, by far the most detailed model I have done yet, still forgot the brake parachute and to sort the flaps... thanks for all the comments BTW, much appreciated.
The real one had a top speed in excess of 1200mph (the story goes that they never hit the top speed as it always ran out of fuel first). But simple planes either has something that accelerates realistically but has a very low top speed or accelerates silly fast but has a more realistic top speed. I like speed. Might do an f6 variant at some point.
@shipster I'm not surprised :) even the pc wondered if it was a good idea, the single one might work though.
now i know why my viggen wasnt getting many downloads =) awesome build.
Just realised I did the Kuwait lightning not Saudi as posted in comments... whoops.
@Feanor that's what I thought, point proven me thinks :)
@GhostHTX I finally got round to making that gloster javelin :) what's next I wonder...
@MailboxIsMyGender if you want to re colour it and repost that would be awesome, I didn't know what scheme u wanted.
@Pilotmario at the risk of starting this off again, One common saying / question asked was how you could get your own F-104. The answer was, “Buy a plot of land and wait for a Starfighter to crash on it.” Canada lost over 100 of its 200 aircraft, Germany had 917 and lost 270 with 110 pilots lost..... I think it earned it's reputation. Yes they may have been using it for multiple roles that it wasn't initially designed for BUT it was sold to them as capable of those roles.
@F104Deathtrap none at all, was entertaining but we needed to draw a line under it before it fit out of hand :)
@MailboxIsMyGender I made that aero alca for you :)
@ChiChiWerx ty, I did notice I missed some camouflage from the lower wing but heyho. Surprised it hadn't been more popular really.
Guys/girls, end of argument, I like both tsr2 and the valkerie. I'd have posted my simpleplanes valkerie before this but I did it without mods so needs adapting. No more arguments plix, interesting as they are (ps wiki shouldn't be used for referencing as my degree lecturers kept telling me :p )
@BogdanX sorry, I wasn't being aggressive, seriously I just want to know how to colour it differently, the game seems to limit me but if monotone isn't everyone's cup of tea what can I do?
OK so how do you do two tone on a game that only let's you colour specific parts? I only built it as a request of someone, I can re-colours it in a fantasy colour scheme if u want?
google it, basically it is just grey....
@MailboxIsMyGender I've just got back from the scampton airshow, will give a l159 a go this week, and hopefully a gloster javelin :)
@CRJ900Pilot run that by me again, so I set the undercarriage doors to vtol 8? What does that gain me/do?
@F104Deathtrap yeah your not wrong (look at the ee lightning to Germany deal, oh look they ended up with starfighters/ new holes in fields).TSR-2 was cancelled due to rising costs, in favour of purchasing an adapted version of the General Dynamics F-111, a decision that itself was later rescinded as costs and development times increased..... I think that says a lot about the politics of the time. Tsr was never designed to be hypersonic, and even in test flights it out accelerated the lightning I understand (the lightning out accelerated the early f15s in climbs and f105s for fun.) Still enjoyed the build though
Almost every part has collisions disabled, I could have increased the rotation of the undercarriage legs but I wanted them to be in the scale location, if sp didn't have slogger or the rotators it wouldn't be a problem with wheels appearing through the doors, but to be fair you wouldn't pull that hard in real life, I could limit the elevator movement to also solve this. As for the gear doors I didn't want to start messing about and having parts on different numbers, again all I needed was sp to have a cycle option on rotators instead I have to use 2 sets... I was more concerned with getting the doors so you had them open and an option to shut after wheels are retracted. Which way is it auto rolling? I fly with a joystick and it was fine.
It might be nice if u asked the creator before you go off and post re-colours of my designs.....
@Awsomur if you mean wobbly on the ground, that's a mix of simpleplanes wheel dynamics and the narrow track undercarriage, I tried to iron out as much as possible but still needs some rudder input during takeoff
Hey, I've built a f9-j as well now, take a look :)
@Tang0five thanks all the same, I'll keep building, you keep enjoying them :)
@GhostHTX thanks people, I felt this was better than a direct comment to a post we are all aware of =) it did turn out nice, still flawed in places (wing tips, nose length etc) but it was starting to take ages to tweak. Not the nicest of aircraft to model mind, if only the comment had been about a javelin or mirage....
@GhostHTX thanks, I appreciate the comments, your response was spot on.
@Tang0five ty, by far the most detailed model I have done yet, still forgot the brake parachute and to sort the flaps... thanks for all the comments BTW, much appreciated.
The real one had a top speed in excess of 1200mph (the story goes that they never hit the top speed as it always ran out of fuel first). But simple planes either has something that accelerates realistically but has a very low top speed or accelerates silly fast but has a more realistic top speed. I like speed. Might do an f6 variant at some point.
@sheepsblood yeah all retired as of 2010ish, just saw xv250 belt down a runway today though so at least some are still alive.
@CRJ900Pilot thanks for the suggestion, I have one 60% complete but I built it before I figured the program out so needs some rebuilding work.
@Tang0five thanks for the comments, ive uploaded a mod free one, didnt realise it caused people issues.
Thanks for the comments, I tried with the clamshell airbrakes but without half nosecones its a nightmare.