Remember: criticism is the key to improvement.
I'm not poking holes in this because I'm mean, I'm poking holes in this so you can make your future projects better.
@Boeing727200F I figured the "suppressive" part of a helicopter was generally the "giant flying death machine pointed at you". A modern helicopter has such excellent sensors that it only needs to fire when it spots a target, unlike a soldier which cannot be certain from a distance when the enemy is attempting to move (thus needs to fire more often). Even then, water-cooled machine guns are typically unneeded as the mere threat of a burst of bullets keeps heads down.
Prolonged fire is usually only needed when there are prolonged targets (such as wave attacks or aircraft needing to be shot down).
but I'm assuming its for like 1 small engine or something
What do you mean?
I'm not good at this research thing, but it seems like the outdated lease units were sold in Universe-1 exclusively. There's no evidence I can find that any have been sold off to an entity in the Tumour.
@Boeing727200F I do wonder what its mission profile is supposed to be, seeing as water-cooled weapons are only really effective when prolonged fire (as in minutes or more) is required. They're also heavy, and so is the ammunition to sustain such firing; for a helicopter (already an inefficient type of aircraft) this would be prohibitive.
Aircraft have the benefit of high speed airflow over their weapons, so that's generally what they go with. This could also be seen in WWI, if my memory serves, with MG 14 - an MG 08 redesigned for aerial use.
water-cooled MGs were nessasary as this aircraft is designed to operate in very high humidity locations
I'm sorry do your machine guns fucking SWEAT?
According to a bit of Googling, humid air takes away heat slightly better than dry air (though it seems circumstances are relevant). The only situation were humid air would be definitively worse for heat dissipation would be if evaporative cooling was used.
some anti furries stole it and did exactly what they would with a helicopter loaded full of fuel
That's not an anti-furry, that's a terrorist. One is an edgelord, the other is a domestic security threat.
shoot trespassers before questioning.
Believe me, that doesn't go over well with the po-po unless you have some very, very specific paperwork. Ask us why we know.
@Boeing727200F I mean, it's possible. Graingy was never one of the big locomotive manufacturers (if we were, I'd be able to tell you about the competition like I can other companies, such as the long-reviled Boeing). The units we sold to others were typically pretty middle-of-the-road, though, so it seems that it was relatively uncommon practice; why delay with a trial unit when the product is commonly established as so incredibly milquetoast? The exotic stuff we kept for ourselves (see: the spark-plug-equipped diesel).
The resemblance to actual standard-gauge Graingy locomotives isn't outstanding, though. At least, not compared to any other locomotive.
That still wouldn't explain the paint.
@Boeing727200F Most engines look next to identical unless you've stared at them for more time than sense, no less when they're at such a tiny resolution.
Graingy has produced standard gauge engines, of course, but those were mostly for sale to other entities; relatively few models were used by Graingy itself.
Well, sort of. A number of sizes were used, it was just the price range that was constrained; Graingy has virtually never used the budget offerings themselves outside of exceptional (read: emergency) circumstances.
Graingy has historically preferred to use its own rail lines whenever possible (principally between plants and Graingy-owned-and-operated mines), and those were almost overwhelmingly of the 2m gauge past the company's first two decades.
Many video games use simplified models at a distance to reduce graphical load.
For example: at the MiG-25's combat distances, this is what its model looks like.
Graingy’s 2m line was entirely independent of other lines, so whatever rolling stock may have existed elsewhere in the world of that gauge is irrelevant.
@Boeing727200F Well, whatever the case is your drawings look next to identical to actual Graingy-built engines.
I can find no source indicating that Graingy ever operated engines of those types. It’s possible they passed through our possession, but they’d have only been painted if they were operated which they weren’t.
... According to the resource, that is indeed the case. They were designed to be "very theoretically" convertible to standard, though that'd require some metal cutting.
Supposedly some components are swapped places, though at the cost of heat dissipation and ease of maintenance (since empty space up top would be filled with large formerly-lower components, while smaller components would be moved into the now-reduced space between the wheels).
Assuming they've been converted to run on standard gauge, I'm curious how it was done? There's a lot of important stuff between the wheels that'd need to be moved for the wheels to be moved inwards, though perhaps the engines are more modular than I give them credit for...
@Boeing727200F I knew something about them seemed familiar.
By the look of it, they were from the 2m-gauge Vancouver-Yukon line. Good locomotives for their time, big ones, though definitely past their prime.
Pulling up a company resource, the one on the right is a GDE-G-45 (Graingy Diesel Electric, General, 45). It was the first diesel model purpose-built for the line in 1945, and worked as proof of concept.
The one in the middle is a GDE-G-50, the -45's successor from (you guessed it) 1950. It increased traction with extra wheels and made a few other minor changes and improvements.
One on the left is a GDE-H-53 (H for 'Heavy'), obviously from 1953. Improvements to the line itself and operating procedures resulted in fewer stops and higher line speeds. Accordingly, a much more powerful locomotive with slightly reduced starting tractive effort was designed. Furthermore, it used an energy recovery system to store electricity generated while braking in large battery banks, increasing efficiency and power at the yard and while starting. All this contributed to its enormous length. AFAIK the GDE-H-53 is one of the largest locomotives built by Graingy, as it worked on Graingy's own line under our own conditions and didn't have to worry about the same restrictions as on non-Graingy-owned rail.
Or, at least, that's what the resource says. I'm not very good with this stuff.
Apparently the GDE-G-45 was prone to fires in its early years courtesy of a spark plug fault.
Yes, spark plugs.
In a Diesel locomotive.
Why there were spark plugs I do not know, but knowing our company's engineering history it's probably some absurd engineering solution that'd have been deemed impractical by almost anyone else.
@Boeing727200F Complete nonsense. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
@Monarchii Completely painful. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done... A+
@Hooha12 ... As opposed to?
I will explode if tagged.
+1Remember: criticism is the key to improvement.
+1I'm not poking holes in this because I'm mean, I'm poking holes in this so you can make your future projects better.
@Boeing727200F I figured the "suppressive" part of a helicopter was generally the "giant flying death machine pointed at you". A modern helicopter has such excellent sensors that it only needs to fire when it spots a target, unlike a soldier which cannot be certain from a distance when the enemy is attempting to move (thus needs to fire more often). Even then, water-cooled machine guns are typically unneeded as the mere threat of a burst of bullets keeps heads down.
+2Prolonged fire is usually only needed when there are prolonged targets (such as wave attacks or aircraft needing to be shot down).
oh i see
@Boeing727200F
What do you mean?
+1I'm not good at this research thing, but it seems like the outdated lease units were sold in Universe-1 exclusively. There's no evidence I can find that any have been sold off to an entity in the Tumour.
@Boeing727200F I do wonder what its mission profile is supposed to be, seeing as water-cooled weapons are only really effective when prolonged fire (as in minutes or more) is required. They're also heavy, and so is the ammunition to sustain such firing; for a helicopter (already an inefficient type of aircraft) this would be prohibitive.
+2Aircraft have the benefit of high speed airflow over their weapons, so that's generally what they go with. This could also be seen in WWI, if my memory serves, with MG 14 - an MG 08 redesigned for aerial use.
@Boeing727200F As far as I can tell Graingy never had any more than a tiny lease program for locomotives. There was something, but man was it small.
+1@Boeing727200F
I'm sorry do your machine guns fucking SWEAT?
According to a bit of Googling, humid air takes away heat slightly better than dry air (though it seems circumstances are relevant). The only situation were humid air would be definitively worse for heat dissipation would be if evaporative cooling was used.
That's not an anti-furry, that's a terrorist. One is an edgelord, the other is a domestic security threat.
Believe me, that doesn't go over well with the po-po unless you have some very, very specific paperwork. Ask us why we know.
+1@Boeing727200F I mean, it's possible. Graingy was never one of the big locomotive manufacturers (if we were, I'd be able to tell you about the competition like I can other companies, such as the long-reviled Boeing). The units we sold to others were typically pretty middle-of-the-road, though, so it seems that it was relatively uncommon practice; why delay with a trial unit when the product is commonly established as so incredibly milquetoast? The exotic stuff we kept for ourselves (see: the spark-plug-equipped diesel).
The resemblance to actual standard-gauge Graingy locomotives isn't outstanding, though. At least, not compared to any other locomotive.
That still wouldn't explain the paint.
What on Earth am I looking at?
What.
What.
+1@Boeing727200F A Boeing 727-200F, perchance?
@Boeing727200F Most engines look next to identical unless you've stared at them for more time than sense, no less when they're at such a tiny resolution.
Graingy has produced standard gauge engines, of course, but those were mostly for sale to other entities; relatively few models were used by Graingy itself.
Well, sort of. A number of sizes were used, it was just the price range that was constrained; Graingy has virtually never used the budget offerings themselves outside of exceptional (read: emergency) circumstances.
Graingy has historically preferred to use its own rail lines whenever possible (principally between plants and Graingy-owned-and-operated mines), and those were almost overwhelmingly of the 2m gauge past the company's first two decades.
@Chunkycheese Is that a no?
+1the wings aren't attached
@Chunkycheese Are you telling me you've never heard Eggman's Announcement before???
+1Many video games use simplified models at a distance to reduce graphical load.
+1For example: at the MiG-25's combat distances, this is what its model looks like.
@Chunkycheese ???
+1@1200pashacom I do not read Cyrillic.
@Monarchii the current Indonesian regime is as stupid as it is evil, so I doubt you could do worse.
@Boeing727200F Odd that it used Graingy paint…
+1@keiyronelleavgeek566 no
+1Graingy’s 2m line was entirely independent of other lines, so whatever rolling stock may have existed elsewhere in the world of that gauge is irrelevant.
@Boeing727200F Well, whatever the case is your drawings look next to identical to actual Graingy-built engines.
+1I can find no source indicating that Graingy ever operated engines of those types. It’s possible they passed through our possession, but they’d have only been painted if they were operated which they weren’t.
@Boeing727200F Trains in Japan
+1@keiyronelleavgeek566 no
+1This is several kinds of stupid.
-Shared age while underage
-Evaded ban
-Publicly announced the ban evasion.
Incredible…
@Monarchii mood.
@keiyronelleavgeek566 ?
+1@Ashdenpaw1 i
huh
@Monarchii undercooked.
As far as Google is concerned I am 98 years old.
+1If their posts are still up then they were banned temporarily. Who knows how long.
@Monarchii You will have overthrown the government within a week.
... Honestly, that might not be a bad thing.
@RobotCars what
@Monarchii I'm going to keep my distance from you.
... According to the resource, that is indeed the case. They were designed to be "very theoretically" convertible to standard, though that'd require some metal cutting.
Supposedly some components are swapped places, though at the cost of heat dissipation and ease of maintenance (since empty space up top would be filled with large formerly-lower components, while smaller components would be moved into the now-reduced space between the wheels).
Assuming they've been converted to run on standard gauge, I'm curious how it was done? There's a lot of important stuff between the wheels that'd need to be moved for the wheels to be moved inwards, though perhaps the engines are more modular than I give them credit for...
@Boeing727200F I knew something about them seemed familiar.
By the look of it, they were from the 2m-gauge Vancouver-Yukon line. Good locomotives for their time, big ones, though definitely past their prime.
Pulling up a company resource, the one on the right is a GDE-G-45 (Graingy Diesel Electric, General, 45). It was the first diesel model purpose-built for the line in 1945, and worked as proof of concept.
The one in the middle is a GDE-G-50, the -45's successor from (you guessed it) 1950. It increased traction with extra wheels and made a few other minor changes and improvements.
One on the left is a GDE-H-53 (H for 'Heavy'), obviously from 1953. Improvements to the line itself and operating procedures resulted in fewer stops and higher line speeds. Accordingly, a much more powerful locomotive with slightly reduced starting tractive effort was designed. Furthermore, it used an energy recovery system to store electricity generated while braking in large battery banks, increasing efficiency and power at the yard and while starting. All this contributed to its enormous length. AFAIK the GDE-H-53 is one of the largest locomotives built by Graingy, as it worked on Graingy's own line under our own conditions and didn't have to worry about the same restrictions as on non-Graingy-owned rail.
Or, at least, that's what the resource says. I'm not very good with this stuff.
Apparently the GDE-G-45 was prone to fires in its early years courtesy of a spark plug fault.
Yes, spark plugs.
In a Diesel locomotive.
Why there were spark plugs I do not know, but knowing our company's engineering history it's probably some absurd engineering solution that'd have been deemed impractical by almost anyone else.
@Boeing727200F Complete nonsense. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
+1@Monarchii Completely painful. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done... A+
@Hooha12 ... As opposed to?
huh..
+1@Michiganstatepolicethe2nd To fight stars?
@Boeing727200F It works on Splatoon rules I'm afraid.
+1@RB107 Piss fingers.
+1@TheLoadingGorilla That is because they are a very quiet gorilla.
@TheLoadingGorilla Well? Did you?
@RB107 So super laser piss is included
+1@Boeing727200F Nah, he's already a robot kisser. Only one status effect can be applied at once.
@TheLoadingGorilla Did you hear about the gorilla that escaped from the zoo?
@TheLoadingGorilla No, but I'm sure he didn't either.