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Red Bull Flug Tag Challenge! [Closed]

120k asteroidbook345  3.9 years ago
Auto Credit Based on asteroidbook345's PA-1 Falcon

Since I'm having minor technicaly difficulties with the Enterprise, I figured I'd do this challenge that I've wanted to do for a few months.

Challenge:

To build a glider in order to compete in the first ever SP Flug Tag!

The rules are simple!

  1. It must be a glider with no external propulsion! That's right! That means no rockets, rotators, randomusername's fancy airbrakes on pistons, none of that!
  2. It is strongly recommended you use my launcher (very little mass and will accelerate to 120mph, which is more than it probably needs to), but if you make your own you can run it by me and I'll approve it.
  3. For the sake of realism (I always hate it when challenges don't allow XML), I'm going to allow all XML attributes other than drag scaling! And don't say it's not realistic because those things have insane amounts of drag in real life.
  4. Get creative! The whole point of Flug Tag is to have fun and get wet! I'll have some ideas below, and you're welcome to build a replica or an original idea!
  5. Technically speaking, control surfaces aren't really a thing in Flug Tag, at least not ones that work very well. You're welcome to angle wings up or play with the lift, but try to limit your control surface use as much as possible.
  6. With this challenge being as simple as it is, I'm not going to have part count requirements. However, more details will get you more points!

    Awesome examples:





Procedure:

Build your aircraft, mount it on an approved launcher, and go to the "Going the Distance" challenge to test it! That's where I'll tally up the scores. Speaking of which...

Rating:

I'll do my own fancy points system.
Overall performance will be rated by how many feet you get/100, because I've been able to get pretty far even without control surfaces, and 1000 feet is pretty far.
Looks - 10 points
Overall construction (part count efficient, light, realistic, etc) - 10 points
Creativity (did you remake something from irl Flug Tag, or did you make an original?) - 10 points
Entries will be linked both by their total score and their distances in the final forum

Rewards:

1st place: 15 upvotes or 10 upvotes and 1 spotlight
2nd place: 10 upvotes
3rd place: 5 upvotes

Deadline:

July 10th, 2020
Good luck, contestants!

Spotlights

General Characteristics

  • Predecessor PA-1 Falcon
  • Successors 18 airplane(s) +763 bonus
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 25.5ft (7.8m)
  • Length 31.2ft (9.5m)
  • Height 11.7ft (3.6m)
  • Empty Weight 3,898lbs (1,768kg)
  • Loaded Weight 4,521lbs (2,050kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 2.982
  • Wing Loading 7.4lbs/ft2 (36.0kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 613.5ft2 (57.0m2)
  • Drag Points 989

Parts

  • Number of Parts 21
  • Control Surfaces 7
  • Performance Cost 170
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    665 Jerba

    Ok@Pita

    3.6 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    Just wondering, are the results for this almost done? It’s been awhile since even the distance sheet.

    +2 3.6 years ago
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    @asteroidbook345
    Unfortunately something happened with my PC and I was unable to meet the deadline, is it okay to post late?

    3.8 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    Can i use two(drag and lift) jets with FT instead of wings, to make it more realistic?

    3.8 years ago
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    @asteroidbook345
    If the modification of the cart allows for two extra vtol engines for inital propulsion and an increased power of the detacher (3 second delay and 50% power), my current best run has put me at 16,337 feet. (with controls)

    3.8 years ago
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    35.3k V

    Just hit 12k, tryna hit 16k

    3.8 years ago
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    35.3k V

    So i just made a glider that can go 10k

    Edit, no its not a perpetual motion glider, those can go a theoretical infinite distance

    3.8 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    No, it’s ok. I’ll keep it how it is.@asteroidbook345

    3.8 years ago
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    35.3k V

    @asteroidbook345 it doesnt
    It uses unpowered heli rotors

    3.8 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    I changed my airfoil to flat bottom after reading the forum post and just got it past 20,000 feet. (By an extra 47 feet to be exact). I’m not gonna change it because one idk if I’m allowed to do that as I’ve already submitted my challenge and it would require way more research on takeoff procedures because the very aggressive climb became way more aggressive and it is still zooming when it hits 770 feet, and I just don’t want to redo that entire process.

    3.8 years ago
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    35.3k V

    Am i allowed to use a perpetual motion glider?

    3.8 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    custom catapult from hingle rotator and 7.5m rod. yes, all drag (except platform) is enabled.

    3.8 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    if catapults allowed, my record is 22380 ft with 4-part plane.

    3.8 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    this world far from ideal... so i thought xyz 5,50,5 meters is a good variant.

    3.9 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    How big launcher can be?

    3.9 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    it's nice! 140 mph forwards with -60 alpha gives 280 mph in total, for example.

    3.9 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    140 mph in which direction?

    3.9 years ago
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    6,220 11qazxc

    Can i use bombs and/or fancy airbrakes on pistons on launcher?
    How big speed allowed? What if "plane" detaches at 2^63 m/s?
    It must be a glider, so can i use something like cannons tracking glider?
    Can i use thin ducts out of wings(if it working in simpleplanes)(irl it can have negative drag)?
    Can i use something like that if it works in simpleplanes?

    3.9 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    Is 142 mph a more acceptable speed at detachment?@asteroidbook345

    3.9 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    Okay I’ll try@asteroidbook345

    3.9 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    I’m ready to submit, I just need to confirm that my launcher edits are okay. I added 3 extra vtol engines(Added 3 per side, 6 added total, they are the exact same as the original engines. It gets up to about 170 mph before launching, edited launcher detach force to be 100% with a delay of 2.7 seconds. I also added an inlet at the front of the launcher to make it more efficient. (This probably wouldn’t matter as there is an inlet on my v1.) I also added 2 structural wings at the back and tilted them to give the cart some downforce as it kept lifting up on launch. Gave wheels default wheel suspension. Is there anything I need to change or can I post it? @asteroidbook345

    3.9 years ago
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    1,120 WrongFlyer

    Got it. @asteroidbook345

    3.9 years ago
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    1,120 WrongFlyer

    @asteroidbook345 would you mind if I make my own launcher? It will launch at the exact same speed and have the same detach force...

    3.9 years ago
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    I will be participating in this challenge.

    3.9 years ago
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    665 Jerba

    I remade it, wings are stupidly long and look unrealistic, but I got it to go 13,851 feet on my first run with it.@asteroidbook345

    3.9 years ago
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