If you haven't heard, Elon Musk has received "verbal okay" to build a hyperloop system, even though the mayor of NYC hasn't been briefed in it... link
Here's what I think about it:
The price is definitely going to be large. The idea is to rival the Amtrak Acela line on the East Coast, which has a maximum limited speed of 150mph. This isn't the average top speed though, because roads and structures need to be avoided, meaning corners, which requires tilted tracks. Meanwhile, the planned Hyperloop One would achieve ~700MPH (30mins from NYC-DC). But the question is... do we actually need one? What would we achieve other than a faster way to move people? Imagine the price just to ride on it. Have humans become too impatient? I'd much rather pay less for a 3.5hr train ride over spending (estimated) $350-$500 for a 30min tube travel. Not only is it best (in my mind) for the average wallet, but Amtrak and other users of the tracks would benefit it. The hyperloop is an amazing technology, but I don't believe America needs it. America needs to focus on general rail transport. Plus, shipping costs will be less the next time you buy something online.
That's my thoughts, write yours in the comments, wheither you agree or disagree.
@RailfanEthan In my opinion, it would get the same fate as the space shuttle. Wonderfull and fast, but very limited (And "sligthlly" more expensigve).The advantage of railways is its ability to transport big loads long distances at a relatively high speed (compared to road).For example, it is relatively easy to move a windmill shaft in a railway carriage, but, How do you fit them on a hyperloop carriage?. Furthermore, in america you have found ways to move in every distance (short=car, medium=train, long=airplane) and fitting a sistem which has the speed of a regional plane for the range of a plane is a too narrow gap in the market. I would rather employ my money on developing railway quality and jet efficency.
Thats what I see from a country wich can be travellled from side to side in ~20 hrs by car
True. Personally I prefer British engines because they have lots of history and look more attractive to me.@RailfanEthan
@ACMECo1940 Kinda. In my opinion older trains are > than modern ones. The interior, style, and ability to create a hole in a ozone layer is just fascinating to me.
Yeah me too. Is that why your gifs feature older films of 40-50s trains?@RailfanEthan
@ACMECo1940 I have seen that video, actually.
You should watch wendover productions video on why trains suck in America no offense, but it is a good video @RailfanEthan
What about the sf-Anaheim track that thing will take until 2029 for the first stage to be complete
@1gman4evr just depressurizing the system takes 45 minutes.
Reports of the Hyperloop tubes in the Mojave Desert... "Can withstand the near vacuum pressures"
sees pictures of it
WTF IT HAS INTERNAL STRUTS TO SUPPORT IT AGAINST DISTORTION BY SUNLIGHT
Also, ridding of the air inside it would take as long as the full travel time.
It would be like a sub below crush depth
It wouldnt work anyway becuse the vacum in the tunnel and the pressure outside of it would crush it like an empty beer can
This is just a terrible idea
They can sell the technology to the Chinese once it gets mature, or found cooperative state owned business with CRRC, who can lower the production price by half.
It will be a winwin just like the way Simense and CNR shared technology of the velaro series.
i am so sad its not about me hahahahaha
I completely agree with you @Squirrel
i think theyre trying to replace airplanes AND ITS NOT OKASY
@1gman4evr Then you should've planned ahead, and you really should have if it's an important person.
It seems INTERESTING
Well, what if you have just left your NYC apartment and have 45 minutes to get to an important person in DC? You would want to ride the Hyperloop.
While the initial cost may be large, I imagine the efficiency savings compared to both trains and even airlines may be quite large.
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Train lines are open to the elements and thus require a lot of maintenance, they are also obviously a lot slower than both aircraft and the hyperloop. Trains are also fairly old and haven't really evolved much since their conception, thus there are a lot of potential efficiency savings there.
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Aircraft are obviously faster and arguably more efficient over longer distances than trains. However, they burn up a lot (and I mean a lot) of fuel to get to their effective altitude.
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I think the hyperloop will get rid of these problems for intermediate distances. I doubt it will ever replace both trains and aircraft (aircraft even more so due to their international capabilities), however I think it's a great alternative to bridge the gap between the two types of transportation.
they definetly dont Need this. also, 3.5h travel time is the perfect excutee for playing simpleplanes or read a book.
when it is really important, you could just go by plane i guess
I think it's an amazing concept, but it is prone to fail. Elon Musk is risking his reputation on a very unstable piece of machinery. If it goes wrong and people die, his career is over.
We don't need this, besides, Amtrak is currently working with the train manufacturer Alstom to build a train that can turn fast on existing track using a system called Tiptronic, yes the same name as the Audi dual clutch transmission, it will allow the train to turn without the need of tilting rails, so it can run at high speeds on the already existing NorthEast Corridor, and the name of it is the Amtrak Avelia Liberty and will be ready by 2020, and it will go from 140-220mph, which I don't think it'll improve anything for them because Amtrak doesn't own the Northeast Corridor, they share it with BNSF, Norfolk Southern, CSX, etc so they wouldn't reduce travel times as they claim, instead they'll be getting held up by many freight trains, and a Hyperloop system is absolutely not needed, as you said, way too expensive, besides, isn't Tesla cooler? Elon Musk, you have failed before you even started
And I ranted about an Amtrak bullet train lol
@Tully2001 Yep, I read that a West Coast one would be in Cali if it goes through.
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