It's nice but I do think it needs countermeasures and a secondary weapon. Once you fire the two cleavers, you're defenseless. But those are just minor additions to a good design.
I don't know if it will work, but you could try bracing the wings with small struts of fuselage that connect to each other and to the body of the car. Tee might stiffen the wings enough to keep them in place.
I'd suggest giving engines their own AG codes so pilots can fine tune the power settings. Also, maybe add a small, less powerful engine for landings? Plus maybe some airbrakes or something so a pilot could stop one. But those are just possibilities.
@moellrich97
Not even close. 4 times around the world is only around 100,000 miles, so your airplane is getting less than 4 miles to the gallon. It's a gas guzzler.
I got a small aircraft, the size of a microcar, that get 80 mpg, that can fly around the world about 100 times on the same amount of fuel. It doesn't fly at Mach 260, though, so it would take three or four days to do it, and without a bathroom.
Okay the problem seems to be to be specific to this build. I put together a simple jet and it didn't have the problem. In fact it was about 5 mph faster thanks to the sled.
@moellrich97
Yeah, I know how controls get sketchy at high speed. I got a few hypersonic aircraft designs in the works, and one big problem is that I usually have to reduce the ailerons as much as possible to keep the planes from being over sensitive when rolling.
I've got an kinda warped X-wing configuration with big fuselage ridges (for extra vertical stabilization) that is fairly stable at high speeds, but there's a big difference between flying at Mach 5 and Mach 50!
This one is harder to fly that the original. It goes into a slight bank to the right just after take off. Normally that wouldn't be big deal, but at 2000+mph it is hard to correct without overdoing it the other way.
Also it is more prone to the shakes at low altitude. Basically that a case of going to fast for it's own good at that air density. I can't get it to climb high enough fast enough before it starts vibrating.
Do you want a link to the 15,000 gallon lightweight mini fuel tank? You could sneak a half dozen or so in the fuselage (easy) and have over 100,000 gallons of fuel for something like 100 pounds of weight.
@moellrich97 It hold together not so much because it is small and light but because the engines are so powerful that the game doesn't respond correctly. I has one flighting at some unheard of speed when suddenly it wound up 300,000 feet below sea level!
Egad!. I put a 15,000 gal tank on it and it passed Mach 98 at 42,000 feet! Then it went out of control and started flipping end over end, but it was still in one piece!
Try this one: https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/3uDHGF/mini-fuel-tank15-695gal-14lbs
It's not endless, only 15695 gallons, but it's 0.25x0.25x0.25 so you can fit a lot on them in a small space, or sneak them in places where they won't give you much drag.
With a few of those you could optimize you fighter and not have to put any fuel in the breakway sections.
-Ability to assign fuel usage (so we can get fuel pods to work effectively)
In no particular order:
-Some scalability with Jet engines (like how you can vary power for Props)
-Multiplayer
-Wingmen
-Ability to change from one cockpit to another in game (good for multi section craft)
-Ability to go underwater
-Variable wind sound (it repeats every 2 seconds or so, and I can tap along with the beat now)
-Sky transition darker/space if/when attitude is high enough.
-Ability to swap out the music file
-Rain
-More options for various parts (i.e more landing gear types and sizes, a few more wings by different shapes, some smaller/lighter/weaker engines so we could build stuff like ultralights without mods).
Update 2- After testing this out a bit more, I'm convinced that the game still uses the original wingspan in show way. When rolling an airplane has a bit of of delay, and continues to roll for a bit after you return the stick to neutral, just like a big wing airplane. You can increase the control surface to account for this.
You have a gift for understatement, This is once of the nicer tilt-rotor planes on SP. It makes the transition from vertical to horizontal very easily.
With it's very streamlined speedboat appearance, you could add buoyancy and enter it into the seaplane contest!
Update- The controls are a bit strange. Yaw and Roll act a big sluggish, as if you had bigger wings. Pitch is steady, but is hard to make minute corrections with. If you pull the nose up you can pull straight up with no problem, very quickly. You can loop in about 4 seconds or so. Even at high altitudes, where the wings don't do much, you'll still get some response here.
The autopilot seems to handle it all fine though. In some ways better that before. I think the scaling gives is more granularity in it's adjustments.
Well, I had to stop out for pizza, but so far:
lift and drag are based on the original, unscaled wing. The nodded airplane has a much shorter take off run, and overreacts to any flight adjustment by a human pilot. It also maxes out at 515 mph at 2000 feet, while the original plane could go over 2200 mph at that altitude.
But so far it looks like you could use this to put really tiny wings on a plane, even hide them entirely inside the fuselage and it will fly.
@Baldovino Sure, I'll even post a test vehicle. BTW, If I uploaded a wing from an existing small plane could you scaled down a oversized duplicate in the same shape so we could compare an normal wing to an scaled down wing of the "same size"?
Or I could just reshape the wings you posted, duh. Sorry, enthusaium must have gotten the better of me.
Ooh, that gives me ideas. I could put big wings on a tiny airplane. I wonder where the CoM and CoL would end up, especially if I loaded the wings with fuel?
Not bad, you get scaled fuel weight. 163 gal of fuel for only 219 pounds.
So the scaled wings also have the same weight and/or drag? How about the control surfaces? That is, if you scaled down the wings on a plane would it perform exactly the same?
@Jetpackturtle
I kinda got burnt that way. Got a copy of 7Pro that wouldn't activate. But judging from the Original Post, I think he's probably going to buy a pre-made machine. If he could build one, he probably wouldn't have made the original post.
Okay, so a Blade T1000 prop is 500HP, 80cm blades, 1.4 thickness and 3 blades. Gotcha.
Can you adjust the dihedral of a wing or is that a new thing?
Also, with prop engines could you adjust the power and blades back then?
nice plane
It's nice but I do think it needs countermeasures and a secondary weapon. Once you fire the two cleavers, you're defenseless. But those are just minor additions to a good design.
neat!
It's a nice little strike plane.
"Only fuselage parts, except for wings."
No engines or cockpit?
It's a nice airplane
BTW, did you go to WPI?
LoL! Maybe it needs a parachute?
I don't know if it will work, but you could try bracing the wings with small struts of fuselage that connect to each other and to the body of the car. Tee might stiffen the wings enough to keep them in place.
I'd suggest giving engines their own AG codes so pilots can fine tune the power settings. Also, maybe add a small, less powerful engine for landings? Plus maybe some airbrakes or something so a pilot could stop one. But those are just possibilities.
+1Cool. I even got some altitude and was nearly able to land on the helipad of a destroyer.
Is the problem just with this plane or with any plane? My first suggestion would be to back up you builds and then reinstall SP.
@moellrich97
Not even close. 4 times around the world is only around 100,000 miles, so your airplane is getting less than 4 miles to the gallon. It's a gas guzzler.
I got a small aircraft, the size of a microcar, that get 80 mpg, that can fly around the world about 100 times on the same amount of fuel. It doesn't fly at Mach 260, though, so it would take three or four days to do it, and without a bathroom.
Thank you! You did all the work.
The problem is (thankfully) specific to this build or the ultra low drag. When I built a simple test jet the sled didn't reduce the speed at all.
Okay the problem seems to be to be specific to this build. I put together a simple jet and it didn't have the problem. In fact it was about 5 mph faster thanks to the sled.
@moellrich97 So it could get you anywhere you wanted to go on the planet in under 4 minutes.
Oh, if you use just a detacher an one wheel it will hit 1150 mph at the first island. So it seems to be some sort of artifact of the sled.
Sure, here's the link: http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/961T65/Yellow-Jacket-Launcher-Test
@moellrich97
Yeah, I know how controls get sketchy at high speed. I got a few hypersonic aircraft designs in the works, and one big problem is that I usually have to reduce the ailerons as much as possible to keep the planes from being over sensitive when rolling.
I've got an kinda warped X-wing configuration with big fuselage ridges (for extra vertical stabilization) that is fairly stable at high speeds, but there's a big difference between flying at Mach 5 and Mach 50!
Here is the mini fuel tank that I've been using: https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/3uDHGF/mini-fuel-tank15-695gal-14lbs
Please give an upvote for the guy who made it (it wasn't me),
Brilliant! I had to take it apart to figure out how you did it. Brilliant!
This one is harder to fly that the original. It goes into a slight bank to the right just after take off. Normally that wouldn't be big deal, but at 2000+mph it is hard to correct without overdoing it the other way.
Also it is more prone to the shakes at low altitude. Basically that a case of going to fast for it's own good at that air density. I can't get it to climb high enough fast enough before it starts vibrating.
I think the older version flies better.
Do you want a link to the 15,000 gallon lightweight mini fuel tank? You could sneak a half dozen or so in the fuselage (easy) and have over 100,000 gallons of fuel for something like 100 pounds of weight.
@moellrich97 Will check out the new plane.
@moellrich97 It hold together not so much because it is small and light but because the engines are so powerful that the game doesn't respond correctly. I has one flighting at some unheard of speed when suddenly it wound up 300,000 feet below sea level!
Nice Airfish 8. Good control.
Egad!. I put a 15,000 gal tank on it and it passed Mach 98 at 42,000 feet! Then it went out of control and started flipping end over end, but it was still in one piece!
It looks great!
Try this one: https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/3uDHGF/mini-fuel-tank15-695gal-14lbs
It's not endless, only 15695 gallons, but it's 0.25x0.25x0.25 so you can fit a lot on them in a small space, or sneak them in places where they won't give you much drag.
With a few of those you could optimize you fighter and not have to put any fuel in the breakway sections.
+1Not if you put parachutes on the back outward ends of each discarded section. The chutes will pull the two halves away from the smaller plane.
+1-Ability to assign fuel usage (so we can get fuel pods to work effectively)
In no particular order:
-Some scalability with Jet engines (like how you can vary power for Props)
+1-Multiplayer
-Wingmen
-Ability to change from one cockpit to another in game (good for multi section craft)
-Ability to go underwater
-Variable wind sound (it repeats every 2 seconds or so, and I can tap along with the beat now)
-Sky transition darker/space if/when attitude is high enough.
-Ability to swap out the music file
-Rain
-More options for various parts (i.e more landing gear types and sizes, a few more wings by different shapes, some smaller/lighter/weaker engines so we could build stuff like ultralights without mods).
It's a nice plane, but if you turn the detachers the other way around they won't stay attached to the smaller plane.
Nice
Update 2- After testing this out a bit more, I'm convinced that the game still uses the original wingspan in show way. When rolling an airplane has a bit of of delay, and continues to roll for a bit after you return the stick to neutral, just like a big wing airplane. You can increase the control surface to account for this.
Cool. It's like Amazon of the future.
You have a gift for understatement, This is once of the nicer tilt-rotor planes on SP. It makes the transition from vertical to horizontal very easily.
With it's very streamlined speedboat appearance, you could add buoyancy and enter it into the seaplane contest!
+1It's got a great stall speed too.
+1Solid plane. Even handles good when out of fuel and gliding in for a landing.
Update- The controls are a bit strange. Yaw and Roll act a big sluggish, as if you had bigger wings. Pitch is steady, but is hard to make minute corrections with. If you pull the nose up you can pull straight up with no problem, very quickly. You can loop in about 4 seconds or so. Even at high altitudes, where the wings don't do much, you'll still get some response here.
The autopilot seems to handle it all fine though. In some ways better that before. I think the scaling gives is more granularity in it's adjustments.
Well, I had to stop out for pizza, but so far:
lift and drag are based on the original, unscaled wing. The nodded airplane has a much shorter take off run, and overreacts to any flight adjustment by a human pilot. It also maxes out at 515 mph at 2000 feet, while the original plane could go over 2200 mph at that altitude.
But so far it looks like you could use this to put really tiny wings on a plane, even hide them entirely inside the fuselage and it will fly.
Sleep Well I posted a pair of identical test craft (save wings) that people can fly to compare the two. The difference is lift is obvious.
@Baldovino Sure, I'll even post a test vehicle. BTW, If I uploaded a wing from an existing small plane could you scaled down a oversized duplicate in the same shape so we could compare an normal wing to an scaled down wing of the "same size"?
Or I could just reshape the wings you posted, duh. Sorry, enthusaium must have gotten the better of me.
Ooh, that gives me ideas. I could put big wings on a tiny airplane. I wonder where the CoM and CoL would end up, especially if I loaded the wings with fuel?
Not bad, you get scaled fuel weight. 163 gal of fuel for only 219 pounds.
So the scaled wings also have the same weight and/or drag? How about the control surfaces? That is, if you scaled down the wings on a plane would it perform exactly the same?
@Jetpackturtle
It worked out okay. I had an unused activation code for my dead PC that worked.
@Jetpackturtle
I kinda got burnt that way. Got a copy of 7Pro that wouldn't activate. But judging from the Original Post, I think he's probably going to buy a pre-made machine. If he could build one, he probably wouldn't have made the original post.
@Jetpackturtle
That's a game changer. I had a hard time getting Win 7 when I built my PC.