You realize that such a contraption would be impossible by the laws of physics, unless said tank is significantly compromised in mobility, armor, reliability, or all three. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You insist on impractical machines, such as tanks with battleship guns that fire at the rate of much smaller artillery pieces. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Personally, I'm not surprised if Satan's prepped a spot for me already.
Also, this is from accounts of actual forces of caliphates prior, such as the Ottomans. Again, I'm a history major, so a lot of the things I claim were rooted in history. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation And it's nonexistent in yours simply because (a) your army employs kidnapped civilians as prostitutes to serve your army and (b) because women and men are largely segregated.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation And Paternians believe that war in itself is a war crime. To define a war crime to them is to define a crime within a crime. They feel that attempting to tone down the sheer brutality of war in fact is not particularly peaceful, for if war was not brutal and terrible, then war becomes more palatable.
They think that the brutality of war should know no limits against enemy combatants, so as to dissuade them from war because they will not desire to relive the brutality.
Civilian populations are a different matter, and far more situational. Paternians have no qualms about killing them as long as the attacks were aimed at military targets and said civilians were not partaking in action that directly assisted the war effort, such as longshoremen offloading cargo of clear military value, weapon makers, government officials, pro-war community leaders, etc.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Sexual harassment was a non-issue in ours. You may have concluded this observation after noting that our female servicemembers often go topless in tropical areas outside of combat, like their male compatriots.
However, the men, or everyone for that matter, was raised in what we call children's centers. It's kind of like boarding school. And one of the things they see is a lot of women's tits, usually with an infant jammed up against it. And so the first impression of a woman's breast is not the oversexualized globe of flesh it is often made out to be, but as the means for women to feed infants.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation You don't know anything about history, demographics, or psychology, do you?
You see, if you were to suddenly walk up to a group of people and say "I am better than you. You follow my ways now, for I am superior because I believe in God a better way," and then they say "You crazy? We will do as we please!" and then you pull out an AK-47 and say "Follow my orders or your I blow your head off," and someone says "Oh really?" and then you blow off their head and tell the others "You be like him, you end up like him, understand?", I don't think they'd be happy at all.
They'd probably follow your orders, but that's because they are afraid of your AK-47. Then you get into a fight with someone who has an M16, you shoot him, he lives, he shoots back, you live, and all of a sudden, they aren't so afraid of your gun at all. Especially since the guy you just fought just gave the guys you were pointing guns at in the beginning an old Beretta, a magazine, and a few 9mm cartridges from the dusty part of his gun cabinet.
Now what do you think those people are going to do with that Beretta and a handful of ammunition? Probably load it and shoot you with it.
Of course, in a gunfight between a Beretta pistol of any description and an AK-47, the person with the AK-47 is most likely to win. However, you're now out of ammunition, and those people you held up in the beginning have just grabbed some baseball bats, some lead pipes, some axes, and the Beretta from the guy you just shot. And they're coming for you.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Tactically, they lost. Tanks fitted with bulldozers, supported by armored soldiers cleared out many barricades. Heavy air support rendered any rooftop defenses useless.
Lacking many heavy weapons beyond the occasional rocket launcher, they were quickly overrun.
However, their aim is complete. The harsh, militarized reprisal and consequent crackdown made you guys look really bad. The image of tanks and heavily-armed soldiers blasting apart an apartment building filled with woman and children because they thought someone threw rocks at them isn't helping. Many pro-Awwami citizens are beginning to change their minds about Awwam.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation We've provided them with legitimate political representation, as per the constitution. They can express their desire through ballots, not bullets.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Fine. Fiona, go after him.
You see, Fiona's real name is Maria Dela Cruz. She's from Manila. And she's trained in eskrima.
What's eskrima? Filipino martial arts which emphasize the use of melee weapons such as knives, clubs, sticks, etc. Widely considered the best in its class. Back me up here, @GoldenEagle.
She's also a Krav Maga master.
No, Maria, put away the bolo. We need him alive. I have to deliver him to the asylum in one piece, not several.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Infiltrator vessels will be blown up by the destroyer escorts.
Awwami warships kept a pretty healthy distance away from these things.
You see, the North Point is not built like modern warships. Modern warships are designed in order to avoid getting hit.
The North Point is built like a WWII ship. It is designed deliver more damage than it can absorb. The only North Point-class warship we lost is the North Point herself.
Although much of the superstructure of the North Point was destroyed in the attempt to destroy the beached wreck, it is still relatively intact due to the durability of said warships. It is designed to withstand hits from its own guns. And our simulations showed that it can withstand a nuclear blast.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Sir, I believe your cabinet has passed a vote of no confidence. Now don't run, these Mike and Victor are some of the best rugby players out there. They will probably outrun you. And if either one of them tackles you, it will feel like having a car thrown at you by the Hulk.
Renee Ajlani has led numerous large, extremely popular uprisings in Paris, Toulon, Nice, Cherbourg, Brest, Le Harve, Dijon, Strasbourg, Lyon, and Calais. In addition, revolutions in London, Newcastle, Plymouth, Edinburgh, Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Leeds, Brussels, Liege, Anthwerp, Frankfurt, Kiel, Berlin, Hamburg, Cologne, Dresden, Monaco, Luxembourg, Salerno, Sicily, Sardinia, southern Italy, and Lichtenstein have met similar success.
The people have overwhelmed the local police and army units, and have taken their weapons. Barricades line the streets. Trenches are dug. Each building has been turned into a fortress. Each home is a castle. The burqas have been burned with the Awwami flags.
Should I mention that the Yugoslavian Red Army (A part of the ARI) has formed a proper army, navy, and air force and is stomping the Awwami Army there?
It's a revolution, alright. You sparked it, and your defeat has fanned the flames.
For the first time, the Caliph is scared. He was never scared when the NFK threatened invasion. He was never scared when the Paternian Navy roamed the seas, devouring the Awwami Navy like hungry sharks in a pen full of big, fat fish.
The Pummeler Family!
They're all war veterans of many conflicts. The A-1B (Bravo Pummeler) is the "old man" of the group. Although outperformed by their younger peers, they are still highly respected.
A-1D (Delta Pummeler) is more of a handyman sort of character, emphasizing the versatility of the type. Again, highly respected for his service.
The A-1E, F, and G are the younger veterans.
A-1E (Echo Pummeler) is a traumatized veteran who has seen many conflicts, and uses poetry as a coping mechanism. She is most like Valerie Vickers, an attacker ace who flew this type.
A-1F (Foxtrot Pummeler) is an aggressive type, unafraid to fly into the thick of combat, and is highly experienced. He views tanks as "tin cans" and anti-aircraft weapons as "tin cans that don't know that they should hide."
A-1G (Golf Pummeler) is much like Delta, a handy woman ready to pick up the slack where Echo and Foxtrot. Although a bit slower and less energetic, her superior awareness and intelligence makes her ideal for reconnaissance, forward air control, and electronic warfare. This correlates to the Golf Pummeler's employment in such roles due to the provision for a copilot. Golf is also Echo's sister, and the two share many memories, both pleasant and painful.
It is very interesting between our procurement preferences.
When Awwam must procure foreign equipment, it is usually purchased from the manufacturer, due to the lower cost.
When Paternia must procure foreign equipment, we insist on making it ourselves via license, due to the expertise gained.
It was through licensed production did the Paternian Navy gain expertise in construction of the North Point class heavy cruiser, which you must admit was probably one of the most effective warship on any side, with the Sea Liberator coming a close second.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation To the insane asylum you go! Sergei, grab me the straitjacket! I like to have it on hand. Mike and Victor, I'm going to need you two to chase down and hold this guy down. I'm sure you can get him! You guys play rugby, don't you? Fiona, if he gets too far from Mike and Victor, use the net gun.
We prefer to license-produce them because (A) it improves self-sufficiency in our manufacturing and (B) studying how others build their machines by analyzing their techniques is helpful for making ours more efficient and (C) our troops prefer to use Paternian-made equipment, regardless of the origin of the design. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I also think the Ottomans began losing ever since Vienna in 1683.
That's when the Ottomans tried to conquer Europe, besieged Vienna, and the defenders refused to surrender, despite being outnumbered and their defenses compromised by Ottoman undermining operations. Just as the city was about to fall, the Polish hussars, also known as the "Winged Hussars" due to their distinctive uniforms, arrived. Although outnumbered, they charged the Ottoman cavalry and absolutely stomped them (the Winged Hussars have a reputation for taking on forces which outnumbered them greatly and then destroy them). This, combined with a relieving force and the city's garrison, forced the Ottoman forces to retreat.
And thus was the end of Ottoman expansion. And the reason why our 3rd Army (which was first led by a Pole) was named the "Winged Hussars". And the unit did live up to its name; during the Battle of Seattle, eight Awwami armies were bearing down on the three divisions tasked in defending the city. Despite overwheming numbers, they held out for thirty days, until the 3rd Army arrived. The 3rd Army then charged straight into the Awwami forces in what is the largest tank battle in North America. The older M5A5 Victoria tanks were ideal, given their reasonable mobility and heavy armor. With the 3rd Army overrunning their headquarters, the Awwami forces broke ranks and ran in panic. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Not really. We kill the poor bastard quickly, usually with a sharp knife to the throat. "Dead sentry" was not particularly common, but "every other" is. @JakeTheDogg
You realize that such a contraption would be impossible by the laws of physics, unless said tank is significantly compromised in mobility, armor, reliability, or all three. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I have one. As I said, I have Asperger's Syndrome. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
And can you?
You insist on impractical machines, such as tanks with battleship guns that fire at the rate of much smaller artillery pieces. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You think you are me?
We're very different people. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Personally, I'm not surprised if Satan's prepped a spot for me already.
Also, this is from accounts of actual forces of caliphates prior, such as the Ottomans. Again, I'm a history major, so a lot of the things I claim were rooted in history. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Well, if you use a sufficiently large torpedo, yes.
We have antimatter torpedoes that can drop even the largest of your ships in one hit.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Sonar, b*tch.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation She will probably disarm you.
And then use your knife to castrate you. Or attempt, since there is nothing for her to castrate.
@GoldenEagle Ouch.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation And it's nonexistent in yours simply because (a) your army employs kidnapped civilians as prostitutes to serve your army and (b) because women and men are largely segregated.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation And Paternians believe that war in itself is a war crime. To define a war crime to them is to define a crime within a crime. They feel that attempting to tone down the sheer brutality of war in fact is not particularly peaceful, for if war was not brutal and terrible, then war becomes more palatable.
They think that the brutality of war should know no limits against enemy combatants, so as to dissuade them from war because they will not desire to relive the brutality.
Civilian populations are a different matter, and far more situational. Paternians have no qualms about killing them as long as the attacks were aimed at military targets and said civilians were not partaking in action that directly assisted the war effort, such as longshoremen offloading cargo of clear military value, weapon makers, government officials, pro-war community leaders, etc.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Sexual harassment was a non-issue in ours. You may have concluded this observation after noting that our female servicemembers often go topless in tropical areas outside of combat, like their male compatriots.
However, the men, or everyone for that matter, was raised in what we call children's centers. It's kind of like boarding school. And one of the things they see is a lot of women's tits, usually with an infant jammed up against it. And so the first impression of a woman's breast is not the oversexualized globe of flesh it is often made out to be, but as the means for women to feed infants.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation You don't know anything about history, demographics, or psychology, do you?
You see, if you were to suddenly walk up to a group of people and say "I am better than you. You follow my ways now, for I am superior because I believe in God a better way," and then they say "You crazy? We will do as we please!" and then you pull out an AK-47 and say "Follow my orders or your I blow your head off," and someone says "Oh really?" and then you blow off their head and tell the others "You be like him, you end up like him, understand?", I don't think they'd be happy at all.
They'd probably follow your orders, but that's because they are afraid of your AK-47. Then you get into a fight with someone who has an M16, you shoot him, he lives, he shoots back, you live, and all of a sudden, they aren't so afraid of your gun at all. Especially since the guy you just fought just gave the guys you were pointing guns at in the beginning an old Beretta, a magazine, and a few 9mm cartridges from the dusty part of his gun cabinet.
Now what do you think those people are going to do with that Beretta and a handful of ammunition? Probably load it and shoot you with it.
Of course, in a gunfight between a Beretta pistol of any description and an AK-47, the person with the AK-47 is most likely to win. However, you're now out of ammunition, and those people you held up in the beginning have just grabbed some baseball bats, some lead pipes, some axes, and the Beretta from the guy you just shot. And they're coming for you.
This is basically what's happening now.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Tactically, they lost. Tanks fitted with bulldozers, supported by armored soldiers cleared out many barricades. Heavy air support rendered any rooftop defenses useless.
Lacking many heavy weapons beyond the occasional rocket launcher, they were quickly overrun.
However, their aim is complete. The harsh, militarized reprisal and consequent crackdown made you guys look really bad. The image of tanks and heavily-armed soldiers blasting apart an apartment building filled with woman and children because they thought someone threw rocks at them isn't helping. Many pro-Awwami citizens are beginning to change their minds about Awwam.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation We've provided them with legitimate political representation, as per the constitution. They can express their desire through ballots, not bullets.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Fine. Fiona, go after him.
You see, Fiona's real name is Maria Dela Cruz. She's from Manila. And she's trained in eskrima.
What's eskrima? Filipino martial arts which emphasize the use of melee weapons such as knives, clubs, sticks, etc. Widely considered the best in its class. Back me up here, @GoldenEagle.
She's also a Krav Maga master.
No, Maria, put away the bolo. We need him alive. I have to deliver him to the asylum in one piece, not several.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Infiltrator vessels will be blown up by the destroyer escorts.
Awwami warships kept a pretty healthy distance away from these things.
You see, the North Point is not built like modern warships. Modern warships are designed in order to avoid getting hit.
The North Point is built like a WWII ship. It is designed deliver more damage than it can absorb. The only North Point-class warship we lost is the North Point herself.
Although much of the superstructure of the North Point was destroyed in the attempt to destroy the beached wreck, it is still relatively intact due to the durability of said warships. It is designed to withstand hits from its own guns. And our simulations showed that it can withstand a nuclear blast.
Like, Tsar Bomba kind of nuclear blast.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Sir, I believe your cabinet has passed a vote of no confidence. Now don't run, these Mike and Victor are some of the best rugby players out there. They will probably outrun you. And if either one of them tackles you, it will feel like having a car thrown at you by the Hulk.
And by "car", I mean 18-wheeler truck.
@ElGatoVolador Here.
@ElGatoVolador Yep. The only area not occupied there is West Paraguay.
@PINK I think we will hold off invading Avaruan Brazil for now.
We have decided to assist the Katipunians, who are allied with the Avaruans.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation The concept of good leadership is pretty similar.
The ARI has begun Red August.
Renee Ajlani has led numerous large, extremely popular uprisings in Paris, Toulon, Nice, Cherbourg, Brest, Le Harve, Dijon, Strasbourg, Lyon, and Calais. In addition, revolutions in London, Newcastle, Plymouth, Edinburgh, Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Leeds, Brussels, Liege, Anthwerp, Frankfurt, Kiel, Berlin, Hamburg, Cologne, Dresden, Monaco, Luxembourg, Salerno, Sicily, Sardinia, southern Italy, and Lichtenstein have met similar success.
The people have overwhelmed the local police and army units, and have taken their weapons. Barricades line the streets. Trenches are dug. Each building has been turned into a fortress. Each home is a castle. The burqas have been burned with the Awwami flags.
Should I mention that the Yugoslavian Red Army (A part of the ARI) has formed a proper army, navy, and air force and is stomping the Awwami Army there?
It's a revolution, alright. You sparked it, and your defeat has fanned the flames.
For the first time, the Caliph is scared. He was never scared when the NFK threatened invasion. He was never scared when the Paternian Navy roamed the seas, devouring the Awwami Navy like hungry sharks in a pen full of big, fat fish.
He's scared now.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@Dimkal Welcome.
RIP MOBILE. @Viper28
The Pummeler Family!
They're all war veterans of many conflicts. The A-1B (Bravo Pummeler) is the "old man" of the group. Although outperformed by their younger peers, they are still highly respected.
A-1D (Delta Pummeler) is more of a handyman sort of character, emphasizing the versatility of the type. Again, highly respected for his service.
The A-1E, F, and G are the younger veterans.
A-1E (Echo Pummeler) is a traumatized veteran who has seen many conflicts, and uses poetry as a coping mechanism. She is most like Valerie Vickers, an attacker ace who flew this type.
A-1F (Foxtrot Pummeler) is an aggressive type, unafraid to fly into the thick of combat, and is highly experienced. He views tanks as "tin cans" and anti-aircraft weapons as "tin cans that don't know that they should hide."
A-1G (Golf Pummeler) is much like Delta, a handy woman ready to pick up the slack where Echo and Foxtrot. Although a bit slower and less energetic, her superior awareness and intelligence makes her ideal for reconnaissance, forward air control, and electronic warfare. This correlates to the Golf Pummeler's employment in such roles due to the provision for a copilot. Golf is also Echo's sister, and the two share many memories, both pleasant and painful.
Bandit Aircraft Group and Dragot Aerospace are highly interested in this.
It is very interesting between our procurement preferences.
When Awwam must procure foreign equipment, it is usually purchased from the manufacturer, due to the lower cost.
When Paternia must procure foreign equipment, we insist on making it ourselves via license, due to the expertise gained.
It was through licensed production did the Paternian Navy gain expertise in construction of the North Point class heavy cruiser, which you must admit was probably one of the most effective warship on any side, with the Sea Liberator coming a close second.
@Viper28 Didn't cause lag on my system.
Then again, I'm a card-carrying member of the PC Master Race.
@Viper28
Actually, the license should be written to either Bandit Aircraft Group, Paternian Defense Industries, or Dragot Aerospace. @Dimkal
How about P$250M for 10 aircraft and production license? @Dimkal
@Dimkal P$100 Million for 10 aircraft and license to produce in addition to tooling and jigs.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation To the insane asylum you go! Sergei, grab me the straitjacket! I like to have it on hand. Mike and Victor, I'm going to need you two to chase down and hold this guy down. I'm sure you can get him! You guys play rugby, don't you? Fiona, if he gets too far from Mike and Victor, use the net gun.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation You mean a 70-ton main battle tank?
lol @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Recoil buffers. It has as much recoil as an M82 Barrett semi-automatic anti-material rifle. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
We prefer to license-produce them because (A) it improves self-sufficiency in our manufacturing and (B) studying how others build their machines by analyzing their techniques is helpful for making ours more efficient and (C) our troops prefer to use Paternian-made equipment, regardless of the origin of the design. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I also think the Ottomans began losing ever since Vienna in 1683.
That's when the Ottomans tried to conquer Europe, besieged Vienna, and the defenders refused to surrender, despite being outnumbered and their defenses compromised by Ottoman undermining operations. Just as the city was about to fall, the Polish hussars, also known as the "Winged Hussars" due to their distinctive uniforms, arrived. Although outnumbered, they charged the Ottoman cavalry and absolutely stomped them (the Winged Hussars have a reputation for taking on forces which outnumbered them greatly and then destroy them). This, combined with a relieving force and the city's garrison, forced the Ottoman forces to retreat.
And thus was the end of Ottoman expansion. And the reason why our 3rd Army (which was first led by a Pole) was named the "Winged Hussars". And the unit did live up to its name; during the Battle of Seattle, eight Awwami armies were bearing down on the three divisions tasked in defending the city. Despite overwheming numbers, they held out for thirty days, until the 3rd Army arrived. The 3rd Army then charged straight into the Awwami forces in what is the largest tank battle in North America. The older M5A5 Victoria tanks were ideal, given their reasonable mobility and heavy armor. With the 3rd Army overrunning their headquarters, the Awwami forces broke ranks and ran in panic. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Well, electron accelerated rifles are quite powerful and much lighter. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
He did mention the numbers were an exaggeration. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Permission to produce under license?
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
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Not really. We kill the poor bastard quickly, usually with a sharp knife to the throat. "Dead sentry" was not particularly common, but "every other" is. @JakeTheDogg
Well, it goes through the chest plates well. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Each cartridge is its own pre-changed capacitor. @JakeTheDogg
Yes. @AccipitrisEnterprises
@TemDesBur And we're making one, as well as the converted M1 semiautomatic pistol used for tests (it's a single-shot weapon).
@TemDesBur Pretty much.
12.7mm @TemDesBur