You convert it to fire blanks, remodel it into Han Solo's DL-44 Blaster pistol, and now you've got a collectible prop that you can sell for good money.
I don't, simply to make my builds more mobile-friendly. Although because of mods and the high part count from the use of the side skirts, such is not possible with this machine.
@Flash0of0green If I had to choose a Luger, it would be the either an original US pistol trials Luger chambered in .45 ACP with the American Eagle on the top, or the Portuguese 1906 Luger. These pistols, unlike most Lugers, are actually rare.
@Flash0of0green Ehh... this was a different design from the Luger.
The P08 Luger was derived from the Borchardt C-93, designed by Hugo Borchardt, which was the first commercially-produced semiautomatic pistol. Chambered for the bottlenecked 7.65mm Borchardt, it was quite powerful, accurate, and rapid-firing. While it did gather some interest by many other nations due to George Luger's promotion under DWM, notably the US and Switzerland, they found it too heavy and unwieldy, and had a harsh recoil.
Of interest, the 7.63mm Mauser cartridge used by the C96 is basically an uploaded 7.65mm Borchardt, with 20% more powder in the case.
However, Hugo Borchardt didn't want to change any part of the design, so DWM had George Luger improve it for them. This pistol used a new, bottlenecked 7.65mm Parabellum cartridge based off a shortened 7.65mm Borchardt, was much lighter and had a shallower grip (the Borchardt grip was almost vertical). This became the famous Luger pistol we all know and love. Later, when people wanted bigger bullets, George Luger necked out the 7.65mm cartridge to create the 9mm Parabellum pistol.
Of note, some Mauser pistols were chambered in 9mm Parabellum. These are known as "Red 9" C96 pistols, because a large "9" was burned into the wooden grips to tell people what cartridge to load. Not all 9mm pistols received this, however, as it was done by the unit armorer.
Yes, I know a lot about guns. I think the M16 is a better rifle than the AK-47.
Just say you captured a few of these and liked them so much that you decided to use it as a chassis base. The Lanzarrian XV-15 Leveler tank's hull was based off the M6A4 Ardent (the UPS variant was not yet in service at the time).
I just figured to just go with one chassis. It may not be perfect, but it would certainly be good enough, and the logistical benefits would outweigh the less than perfect performance.
Of course, we do have several standard chassis. We have been using the M17 Stallion series since our introduction, and the failed M7 Sentinel light tank has transformed into the successful M19 APC. The M3 Avenger, while obsolete as a tank, is still a perfectly good chassis for other purposes. @Supermini555
I would think so. Our Ardent is a main battle tank, which means it is what we use as our general-purpose tank. It's good against virtually any ground threat, although more specialized vehicles may be needed for certain tasks such as combat engineering and air defense, which can be built off said tank.
Which brings up something which we think should be considered a major flaw; the huge variety of unique equipment for uses that can be done by a single vehicle.
You see, our tanks are designed for combat at all ranges. The Victoria design serves as a force multiplier for armored, mechanized, and infantry units.
You see, while we do have assault guns such as the M3A1 Terminator, they are usually based on existing vehicles, such as the M3 Skysweeper SPAAG, which was built on the hull of an M6A2, A3, and A4 Ardent. In addition, the new M3 Longbow is built off a modified chassis.
And don't forget the numerous variants of the M3 Avenger, including a CEV (Combat Engineering Vehicle), ABLV (armored bridge laying vehicle), APC, IFV, SPG, SPAAG, and ARV.
This means that many of our tracked vehicles share many parts with each other, simplifying logistics significantly. In addition, all are powered with the Tank Universal Powerplant, something for anything in our army that uses tracks. @Supermini555
@PINK Ehh... its about as good as you can get with mobile.
Of note, if you need high-torque wheels that let you stick 1200hp engines on a tank and not have it go supersonic, you can take them off my M6A4 UPS TUCK.
@cowelly I always try to make my characters very believable. This one in particular (Lt. Valerie Vickers) was a 20 year veteran of the Paternian Air Force. A world-famous attack pilot ace, she flew hundreds of sorties over her career. When she entered the service, she was an aspiring, bright, and gifted pilot. When she left, she left with a rack full of medals and ribbons, international fame, and the physical and emotional scars that she got in the process.
She has many other traumatic events, such as when her commander Amy Rice, a mother figure to her (her father raised she and her brother on his own) was killed, or the first time she had to execute someone by means of service revolver (it was an Awwami infiltrator setting charges while dressed in a Paternian uniform). In this particular incident, what actually happened was that the 37mm explosive round struck the wing and although visibly protruding from it, did not detonate throughout the entire flight.
The inspiration to have the bad dream involve the round destroying the aircraft was inspired by the sort of PTSD Maj. Charlie Brown of the Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler incident. What happened was that Maj. Charlie Brown of the USAAF, flying a heavily damaged B-17 with everyone wounded or dead from a bombing raid, was intercepted by Lt. Franz Stigler, who quickly caught up to the damaged bomber in his Bf 109. He knew that if he shot down one more bomber, he would be eligible for the Knight's Cross. However, as he approached, he saw through the damaged airframe that the bomber aircrew were all injured, and therefore decided to escort the bomber to safety.
Initially, he tried to gesture to the pilot to either land and surrender at a German airfield or fly north to neutral Sweden (the B-17's radio was destroyed), where they could receive medical attention far sooner than if they flew to England. Maj. Brown could not understand his hand gestures, and when Lt. Stigler realized this, he decided to escort the bomber to the English Channel in close formation, knowing that German flak would not open fire on the bomber if he was in close proximity. Lt. Stigler did this at great risk, as previously, his radiator has sustained a hit from a .50 caliber bullet, meaning that his engine can overheat at any time.
When he was certain they were outside of German airspace and over the English Channel, he gave a salute and turned back. It would be over forty years before they reunited, when Brown decided to search
@cowelly Thanks for the input! Know that while I have never served for a day in my life as I am too young to do so, I have great sympathy for those with PTSD. This account is inspired by the stories of those who still live with PTSD.
Thank you for your service to your nation, whichever it may be.
Of note, the Ardent is quite modular, with the hull made of various interlocking, prefabricated plates. Therefore, it was easy to convert standard A4 hulls into A4 UPS hulls easily.
Of course, the turret can be lifted out of the tank if need be. Much of our M6 fleet began as M6A3 vehicles, and later were upgraded. Remember, the Ardent was originally designed as a private export venture, to be made by poorer countries who cannot afford more powerful weaponry but want something that can stand a chance on a modern battlefield, and has large upgrade potential in order to extend service life.
I would think the Decimator would be easier to maintain simply because it doesn't have a proper turret. However, we don't really like turret less vehicles because we want our tanks to be able to engage and destroy targets that are not in front of the hull. @Supermini555
@Supermini555 Our polymer armor, in its honeycomb configuration, is just as strong as an equivalent thickness of the metallic graphene armor you use, since its interlocking plates allow for significantly increased strength, where your graphene armor is a single homogenous, unbroken layer.
Also, this tank actual weight (40 tons) is much closer to its stated weight (50 tons) than any other tank I have made.
I suppose you can build your own tanks by taking a look at other designs. If you're on mobile, then PINK's designs will do, as he does them all on mobile, where I have the benefit of being a card-carrying member of the PC Master Race.
@Supermini555 Of note, we include what we refer to as plastic armor. Made from heat-resistant polymers, this armor is arranged in multiple layers hexagonal ballistic polymer plates in a honeycomb pattern, interlocked and bonded by carbon aerogels which do not suffer from the shattering issues that older designs had.
These ballistic polymers are approximately 20 times stronger than steel, yet twice as light. With an interlocking pattern and multiple layers, they can outperform RHA by a factor of 20. The aerogel's incredible insulating powers prevent 10K C ammo from burning them up.
The first tank to feature this armor was the M4 Scorpion light tank, in order to develop a lightweight yet reasonably strong armor. While the combat performance of the tank itself was considered disappointing against heavier tanks as its armor was still relatively thin and the armor, it showed the potential of the armor. The armor composition, of varying thicknesses, was later employed on future armored vehicles, most notably on the Paternian M5 Victoria.
The Victoria M5A5 and M5A6 is unique in that its plates are relatively thick compared to the area of armor they cover. In addition, its plates are the smallest of any vehicle, at 25mm wide versus the 75mm that is standard, taking up many times as many plates to cover an area. While this is quite costly in construction, this makes the armor significantly stronger.
It was this armor which made the Paternian Army's Victoria such a feared tank, in addition to its excellent firepower and acceptable mobility. Paternian soldiers called it "Girlfriend of three". Polish troops called it "Kochany", or "beloved". North African troops called it "Khalid", now "Sahih Khalid" in order to distinguish it from the Awwami Khalid tank.
@TheBroadside We tried. The project was halted because it was realized that it was better to design a better tank, given the amount of upgrades we felt it needed.
If you need tanks, look no further than us. Our tanks have proven successful against Awwami-designed armor.
@Supermini555 Water evaporates at 100 C, tungsten melts at 3,414 C, and carbon sublimes (transitions from solid to gas, as there is no liquid form of carbon) at 3,642 C. Of note, tungsten has the highest melting point of any metal, and carbon has the highest sublimation point of any material. Note that the interior of armor panels may also be that of air.
Also note that the graphene-aluminum compound suffered from some quality control issues, especially with the armor suits. Graphitization was discovered in approximately 20% of all captured suits, and is believed to have occurred after manufacture.
Also know that whenever I hear "aluminum" and "armor" used in the same sentence, I begin to laugh. Unless it is referring to how aluminum is not very good for armor.
We found that carbon nanotubes were superior in both cost, strength, and repairability.
@PyrusEnderhunter It has a new cockpit, afterburners, and improved maneuverability. It's also a bit faster.
You see, when I design fighters now, I aim to establish unstable aerodynamic equilibrium. Think of it like a ball balanced atop a needle.
When I design something like a cargo plane, I aim to establish stable aerodynamic equilibrium. Think of it like the same ball as before, now balanced inside a bowl.
We aim to achieve the former over the latter in fighter design because for the same energy on the ball, you can shift the position of said ball on a needle more easily than a bowl. Likewise, with unstable equilibrium, you can shift the direction of the aircraft more easily for the same energy than if it was stable, and therefore make a more maneuverable aircraft.
@Liquidfox Not really...
You convert it to fire blanks, remodel it into Han Solo's DL-44 Blaster pistol, and now you've got a collectible prop that you can sell for good money.
@Supermini555 I see.
I don't, simply to make my builds more mobile-friendly. Although because of mods and the high part count from the use of the side skirts, such is not possible with this machine.
@Supermini555 Link?
@Supermini555 It's pretty proportional to the actual C96. It's the pencil-thin German barrels.
@Supermini555 Elaborate.
@Gmanndo1000 thanks!
@Flash0of0green If I had to choose a Luger, it would be the either an original US pistol trials Luger chambered in .45 ACP with the American Eagle on the top, or the Portuguese 1906 Luger. These pistols, unlike most Lugers, are actually rare.
@Flash0of0green Ehh... this was a different design from the Luger.
The P08 Luger was derived from the Borchardt C-93, designed by Hugo Borchardt, which was the first commercially-produced semiautomatic pistol. Chambered for the bottlenecked 7.65mm Borchardt, it was quite powerful, accurate, and rapid-firing. While it did gather some interest by many other nations due to George Luger's promotion under DWM, notably the US and Switzerland, they found it too heavy and unwieldy, and had a harsh recoil.
Of interest, the 7.63mm Mauser cartridge used by the C96 is basically an uploaded 7.65mm Borchardt, with 20% more powder in the case.
However, Hugo Borchardt didn't want to change any part of the design, so DWM had George Luger improve it for them. This pistol used a new, bottlenecked 7.65mm Parabellum cartridge based off a shortened 7.65mm Borchardt, was much lighter and had a shallower grip (the Borchardt grip was almost vertical). This became the famous Luger pistol we all know and love. Later, when people wanted bigger bullets, George Luger necked out the 7.65mm cartridge to create the 9mm Parabellum pistol.
Of note, some Mauser pistols were chambered in 9mm Parabellum. These are known as "Red 9" C96 pistols, because a large "9" was burned into the wooden grips to tell people what cartridge to load. Not all 9mm pistols received this, however, as it was done by the unit armorer.
Yes, I know a lot about guns. I think the M16 is a better rifle than the AK-47.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation @TemDesBur @GoldenEagle Going old school here.
No, we don't use this pistol anymore.
@YuukaNeko The famous Broomhandle Mauser. Or the gun that was used to make Han Solo's pistol prop.
@Flash0of0green The Luger and the C96 are both early German WWI-era pistols.
@MadBomber Thanks!
@AccipitrisEnterprises Thanks!
@Supermini555 There's this.
Just say you captured a few of these and liked them so much that you decided to use it as a chassis base. The Lanzarrian XV-15 Leveler tank's hull was based off the M6A4 Ardent (the UPS variant was not yet in service at the time).
@DankDorito Might.
Yes. It is generally accepted that the stated statistics are the relevant statistics.
Unless they're Awwami, because they tend to be impossible. @PyrusEnderhunter
Of note, that is the emblem of the PLA.
I just figured to just go with one chassis. It may not be perfect, but it would certainly be good enough, and the logistical benefits would outweigh the less than perfect performance.
Of course, we do have several standard chassis. We have been using the M17 Stallion series since our introduction, and the failed M7 Sentinel light tank has transformed into the successful M19 APC. The M3 Avenger, while obsolete as a tank, is still a perfectly good chassis for other purposes. @Supermini555
If you want real firepower, use electromagnetic artillery such as railguns or coilguns. In fact, we have 120mm and 155mm coilguns.
I would think so. Our Ardent is a main battle tank, which means it is what we use as our general-purpose tank. It's good against virtually any ground threat, although more specialized vehicles may be needed for certain tasks such as combat engineering and air defense, which can be built off said tank.
Which brings up something which we think should be considered a major flaw; the huge variety of unique equipment for uses that can be done by a single vehicle.
You see, our tanks are designed for combat at all ranges. The Victoria design serves as a force multiplier for armored, mechanized, and infantry units.
You see, while we do have assault guns such as the M3A1 Terminator, they are usually based on existing vehicles, such as the M3 Skysweeper SPAAG, which was built on the hull of an M6A2, A3, and A4 Ardent. In addition, the new M3 Longbow is built off a modified chassis.
And don't forget the numerous variants of the M3 Avenger, including a CEV (Combat Engineering Vehicle), ABLV (armored bridge laying vehicle), APC, IFV, SPG, SPAAG, and ARV.
This means that many of our tracked vehicles share many parts with each other, simplifying logistics significantly. In addition, all are powered with the Tank Universal Powerplant, something for anything in our army that uses tracks. @Supermini555
Thanks! @cowelly
@Flash0of0green oh yeah forgot about that.
@PINK giant shot trap on the front. I suggest the use of an internal mantlet, like a Chieftain or Challenger 1 MBT.
It was designed to fight Awwami tanks and their OP armor.
Actual penetration at 1000m is 7.5m of RHAe. @Makcoink
@YuukaNeko
@PINK Ehh... its about as good as you can get with mobile.
Of note, if you need high-torque wheels that let you stick 1200hp engines on a tank and not have it go supersonic, you can take them off my M6A4 UPS TUCK.
@TheBroadside So basically a HEAT-APERS round?
@cowelly I always try to make my characters very believable. This one in particular (Lt. Valerie Vickers) was a 20 year veteran of the Paternian Air Force. A world-famous attack pilot ace, she flew hundreds of sorties over her career. When she entered the service, she was an aspiring, bright, and gifted pilot. When she left, she left with a rack full of medals and ribbons, international fame, and the physical and emotional scars that she got in the process.
She has many other traumatic events, such as when her commander Amy Rice, a mother figure to her (her father raised she and her brother on his own) was killed, or the first time she had to execute someone by means of service revolver (it was an Awwami infiltrator setting charges while dressed in a Paternian uniform). In this particular incident, what actually happened was that the 37mm explosive round struck the wing and although visibly protruding from it, did not detonate throughout the entire flight.
The inspiration to have the bad dream involve the round destroying the aircraft was inspired by the sort of PTSD Maj. Charlie Brown of the Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler incident. What happened was that Maj. Charlie Brown of the USAAF, flying a heavily damaged B-17 with everyone wounded or dead from a bombing raid, was intercepted by Lt. Franz Stigler, who quickly caught up to the damaged bomber in his Bf 109. He knew that if he shot down one more bomber, he would be eligible for the Knight's Cross. However, as he approached, he saw through the damaged airframe that the bomber aircrew were all injured, and therefore decided to escort the bomber to safety.
Initially, he tried to gesture to the pilot to either land and surrender at a German airfield or fly north to neutral Sweden (the B-17's radio was destroyed), where they could receive medical attention far sooner than if they flew to England. Maj. Brown could not understand his hand gestures, and when Lt. Stigler realized this, he decided to escort the bomber to the English Channel in close formation, knowing that German flak would not open fire on the bomber if he was in close proximity. Lt. Stigler did this at great risk, as previously, his radiator has sustained a hit from a .50 caliber bullet, meaning that his engine can overheat at any time.
When he was certain they were outside of German airspace and over the English Channel, he gave a salute and turned back. It would be over forty years before they reunited, when Brown decided to search
@TheBroadside Sounds good!
@cowelly Thanks for the input! Know that while I have never served for a day in my life as I am too young to do so, I have great sympathy for those with PTSD. This account is inspired by the stories of those who still live with PTSD.
Thank you for your service to your nation, whichever it may be.
I see.
Of note, the Ardent is quite modular, with the hull made of various interlocking, prefabricated plates. Therefore, it was easy to convert standard A4 hulls into A4 UPS hulls easily.
Of course, the turret can be lifted out of the tank if need be. Much of our M6 fleet began as M6A3 vehicles, and later were upgraded. Remember, the Ardent was originally designed as a private export venture, to be made by poorer countries who cannot afford more powerful weaponry but want something that can stand a chance on a modern battlefield, and has large upgrade potential in order to extend service life.
I would think the Decimator would be easier to maintain simply because it doesn't have a proper turret. However, we don't really like turret less vehicles because we want our tanks to be able to engage and destroy targets that are not in front of the hull. @Supermini555
@TheBroadside Docks? We've send them from Detroit to Chicago!
@Supermini555 Our polymer armor, in its honeycomb configuration, is just as strong as an equivalent thickness of the metallic graphene armor you use, since its interlocking plates allow for significantly increased strength, where your graphene armor is a single homogenous, unbroken layer.
Also, this tank actual weight (40 tons) is much closer to its stated weight (50 tons) than any other tank I have made.
@TheBroadside We have SPGs as well.
I suppose you can build your own tanks by taking a look at other designs. If you're on mobile, then PINK's designs will do, as he does them all on mobile, where I have the benefit of being a card-carrying member of the PC Master Race.
@Supermini555 Of note, we include what we refer to as plastic armor. Made from heat-resistant polymers, this armor is arranged in multiple layers hexagonal ballistic polymer plates in a honeycomb pattern, interlocked and bonded by carbon aerogels which do not suffer from the shattering issues that older designs had.
These ballistic polymers are approximately 20 times stronger than steel, yet twice as light. With an interlocking pattern and multiple layers, they can outperform RHA by a factor of 20. The aerogel's incredible insulating powers prevent 10K C ammo from burning them up.
The first tank to feature this armor was the M4 Scorpion light tank, in order to develop a lightweight yet reasonably strong armor. While the combat performance of the tank itself was considered disappointing against heavier tanks as its armor was still relatively thin and the armor, it showed the potential of the armor. The armor composition, of varying thicknesses, was later employed on future armored vehicles, most notably on the Paternian M5 Victoria.
The Victoria M5A5 and M5A6 is unique in that its plates are relatively thick compared to the area of armor they cover. In addition, its plates are the smallest of any vehicle, at 25mm wide versus the 75mm that is standard, taking up many times as many plates to cover an area. While this is quite costly in construction, this makes the armor significantly stronger.
It was this armor which made the Paternian Army's Victoria such a feared tank, in addition to its excellent firepower and acceptable mobility. Paternian soldiers called it "Girlfriend of three". Polish troops called it "Kochany", or "beloved". North African troops called it "Khalid", now "Sahih Khalid" in order to distinguish it from the Awwami Khalid tank.
@Flash0of0green I see.
@TheBroadside We tried. The project was halted because it was realized that it was better to design a better tank, given the amount of upgrades we felt it needed.
If you need tanks, look no further than us. Our tanks have proven successful against Awwami-designed armor.
We can get you cruiser hulls in three months. @TheBroadside
Yes, I have heard of carbon steel. In fact, we used rolled homogeneous armor as component to our armor laminate.
You must take great care, however, for if it is too hard, then it becomes brittle. This may cause the armor to shatter like glass if hit.
However, make it too soft, and it will be penetrated easily. Armor steel has the balance of hardness and toughness necessary. @Supermini555
@Supermini555 Water evaporates at 100 C, tungsten melts at 3,414 C, and carbon sublimes (transitions from solid to gas, as there is no liquid form of carbon) at 3,642 C. Of note, tungsten has the highest melting point of any metal, and carbon has the highest sublimation point of any material. Note that the interior of armor panels may also be that of air.
Also note that the graphene-aluminum compound suffered from some quality control issues, especially with the armor suits. Graphitization was discovered in approximately 20% of all captured suits, and is believed to have occurred after manufacture.
Also know that whenever I hear "aluminum" and "armor" used in the same sentence, I begin to laugh. Unless it is referring to how aluminum is not very good for armor.
We found that carbon nanotubes were superior in both cost, strength, and repairability.
@PINK Interesting. We're moving to autoloaders because they're more compact and can now shoot quickly while on the move.
Because even if the gun is stabilized, the crew is not.
@Flash0of0green Well, the M1911 is a pretty big gun.
@PyrusEnderhunter What physics setting do you have? I test all mine on "high".
@PyrusEnderhunter PC Master Race?
@PyrusEnderhunter Is there a name?
@PyrusEnderhunter Which maneuver in particular?
@InternationalAircraftCompany Yep.
@Flash0of0green Np! The grip's a bit short and straight, though.
@PyrusEnderhunter It has a new cockpit, afterburners, and improved maneuverability. It's also a bit faster.
You see, when I design fighters now, I aim to establish unstable aerodynamic equilibrium. Think of it like a ball balanced atop a needle.
When I design something like a cargo plane, I aim to establish stable aerodynamic equilibrium. Think of it like the same ball as before, now balanced inside a bowl.
We aim to achieve the former over the latter in fighter design because for the same energy on the ball, you can shift the position of said ball on a needle more easily than a bowl. Likewise, with unstable equilibrium, you can shift the direction of the aircraft more easily for the same energy than if it was stable, and therefore make a more maneuverable aircraft.
@MadBomber You can have them for P$1 each.
Looks cool! However, I think the forend is a bit long.