@KillShot86 So far, the only things the SNAA and the Paternian Army share is the stuff the Paternian Army captured during our campaigns, such as Kalashnikov assault rifles, Walther P38 pistols, and T-55 main battle tanks. The general story around these is that they were captured in storehouses and depots because of the poor state of SNAA logistics.
Basically, you had them, but couldn't get them to the fighting men.
The Paternian Army would use captured Kalshnikov assault rifles until 1968, the P38 pistols until 1989, and the T-55 tanks until 2005.
@PyrusEnderhunter Your guns are part of the reason why we call you OP. Having a lightweight submachine gun with over 1500 rounds per minute, the hitting power of 7.92mm Kurz, and high controllability is what we call complete, unmitigated, brokenness.
Also, you can't really make a better assault rifle than an M16. It's widely considered the best assault rifle in the world.
@PyrusEnderhunter M193 bullets fired from an M16A1 don't go through people's bodies. They're not designed to.
They are designed to stay in your body so it can fragment and cut you up from the inside so you go down from internal bleeding because that one bullet just created a dozen wound channels inside your body.
It's barely humane. Which is why we switched over to the M855 and the M16A2. Because three-burst is good enough and M855 can punch through steel helmets at 600 meters. But it will still fragment inside you and leave half a dozen wound channels.
@PyrusEnderhunter The M855 round fired from an M16A2 is an armor-piercing round that was specifically designed to punch through a steel helmet at 600 meters. The M193 is a ball round and although may not punch through armor at that range, will probably still hurt a lot.
And my statement that an M16 can reliably hit targets at 800 meters with an M16 is true. This is the accuracy a US Marine can display with iron sights. True story.
The average Paternian soldier can expect to hit a man-sized target at 500 meters with an M16A1 on semi-automatic using iron sights, 75% of the time, provided the target is not under cover. This is quite high, given that the chances of getting hit in combat is essentially random, although the probability of getting hit is reduced if you have cover. Also know that they have more than one shot to hit you, so the probability of you evading
Also, the M16 is literally the best assault rifle made. The Mauser is to bolt-action rifles as the M16 is to assault rifles. There is a reason why the United States has used it for over 50 years, and with no sign of replacing it. Sure, you can say they are looking to get it replaced by the M4 or HK416, but know that both are essentially short-barreled M16 rifles with telescoping stocks and lots of Picatinny rails to go around. Even armies that went to using other designs such as the AUG and the FAMAS are going back to the reliable M16 and its derivatives.
When this rifle was invented, man had not been to space. Computers were the size of gymnasiums. The Boeing 707 was a unique and revolutionary design. And even in a world where we have a multinational space station, a billion people are connected to the Internet, and virtually every airliner mimics the configuration of the Boeing 707, the M16 is still considered just as modern as it was 50 years ago.
@PyrusEnderhunter No. You avoided CQC with Paternian soldiers, unless you have a deathwish. Sentian forces learned to keep their distance from Paternian forces, which made them more vulnerable to Paternian artillery and airstrikes.
Also, most troops were issued the M16A1 rifle. That thing is brutal. Its 5.56mm bullet can punch through body armor at 600 meters, and a competent marksman can hit you at 800 meters on semi-auto. Fires at 800 rounds per minute, and is quite controllable in short bursts. Feeds from a standard 20 round magazine, although 30 round magazines were also available.
For longer-distances, we have the M25 rifle, also known as the AR-10. That thing is about as controllable, uses a larger 7.62mm cartridge. You can reliably hit targets at ranges of 1,000 meters.
Sentian weapons were far less effective, and many resorted to using captured Paternian M16 and AR-10 rifles.
@PyrusEnderhunter It saw plenty of action in the Southern Rebellion. Its role in Operation Windlass was less significant.
In both cases, it wasn't too great as a reconnaissance vehicle, and was quickly replaced by armored cars in this role.
However, it was still very useful in policing actions against stragglers and guerilla forces. Its relatively light weight, effective protection, and good firepower made it quite viable.
And remember, the normal course of politics (and leadership, in general) mean that you will have to dick moves in order to achieve your goals. The trick is to not to do it to those who will keep you in power.
Basically a T-55 in Paternian Army service. We captured a bunch of them from a nation we obliterated from the face of the earth.
Reconfigured for Paternian controls and 105mm M68 cannon, it is often used as a training vehicle, although it does see use as a heavily-armored 35-ton light tank.
It's popularity is mixed. In light tank battalions, it is valued for its vastly superior armor and firepower compared to the M41(90) Walker Bulldog they previously used. In main battle tank battalions, it is derided for its cramped interior. It should be noted that light tank crews are typically 5'4" and 120lbs, or 1.63m and 54.4 kg, where main battle tank crews are typically 5'8" and 185lbs, or 1.73m and 83.9 kg.
@DestinyAviation Indeed.
@KillShot86 So far, the only things the SNAA and the Paternian Army share is the stuff the Paternian Army captured during our campaigns, such as Kalashnikov assault rifles, Walther P38 pistols, and T-55 main battle tanks. The general story around these is that they were captured in storehouses and depots because of the poor state of SNAA logistics.
Basically, you had them, but couldn't get them to the fighting men.
The Paternian Army would use captured Kalshnikov assault rifles until 1968, the P38 pistols until 1989, and the T-55 tanks until 2005.
@DestinyAviation Yes. The Paternian Republic is a superpower.
Those are 220 gallon drop tanks.
@PINK The logisticians at the Paternian Armed Forces are feeling bad for the logisticians at the Awwami Armed Forces.
@MAHADI This is your contest. The contest made just for you.
@DeezNuts52 Thanks!
@Alix451 It's mostly because that with a 1:7 twist works better in cold temperatures. Because we need to use this thing in Alaska.
@Botfinder No problem! It only says "VTOL and Trim control tank".
@Alix451 We liked the M855 better.
@Botfinder Tried VTOL and Trim forward?
VTOL controls left side, Trim controls right side.
@Cedy117 @Seeras
You leave me no choice.
@Seeras @Cedy117
You didn't pay attention to my discussion with exosuit over this.
Remove it or rename it.
I don't think you can post this. I suggest immediate removal, as this can offend some sensibilities.
Next warning, I'm tagging a moderator.
Yep.@marcox43
Probably the barrel shroud. @Flash0of0green
@PyrusEnderhunter Your guns are part of the reason why we call you OP. Having a lightweight submachine gun with over 1500 rounds per minute, the hitting power of 7.92mm Kurz, and high controllability is what we call complete, unmitigated, brokenness.
Also, you can't really make a better assault rifle than an M16. It's widely considered the best assault rifle in the world.
@PyrusEnderhunter M193 bullets fired from an M16A1 don't go through people's bodies. They're not designed to.
They are designed to stay in your body so it can fragment and cut you up from the inside so you go down from internal bleeding because that one bullet just created a dozen wound channels inside your body.
It's barely humane. Which is why we switched over to the M855 and the M16A2. Because three-burst is good enough and M855 can punch through steel helmets at 600 meters. But it will still fragment inside you and leave half a dozen wound channels.
The ALEK doesn't do that.
@PyrusEnderhunter The M855 round fired from an M16A2 is an armor-piercing round that was specifically designed to punch through a steel helmet at 600 meters. The M193 is a ball round and although may not punch through armor at that range, will probably still hurt a lot.
And my statement that an M16 can reliably hit targets at 800 meters with an M16 is true. This is the accuracy a US Marine can display with iron sights. True story.
The average Paternian soldier can expect to hit a man-sized target at 500 meters with an M16A1 on semi-automatic using iron sights, 75% of the time, provided the target is not under cover. This is quite high, given that the chances of getting hit in combat is essentially random, although the probability of getting hit is reduced if you have cover. Also know that they have more than one shot to hit you, so the probability of you evading
Also, the M16 is literally the best assault rifle made. The Mauser is to bolt-action rifles as the M16 is to assault rifles. There is a reason why the United States has used it for over 50 years, and with no sign of replacing it. Sure, you can say they are looking to get it replaced by the M4 or HK416, but know that both are essentially short-barreled M16 rifles with telescoping stocks and lots of Picatinny rails to go around. Even armies that went to using other designs such as the AUG and the FAMAS are going back to the reliable M16 and its derivatives.
When this rifle was invented, man had not been to space. Computers were the size of gymnasiums. The Boeing 707 was a unique and revolutionary design. And even in a world where we have a multinational space station, a billion people are connected to the Internet, and virtually every airliner mimics the configuration of the Boeing 707, the M16 is still considered just as modern as it was 50 years ago.
@PyrusEnderhunter No. You avoided CQC with Paternian soldiers, unless you have a deathwish. Sentian forces learned to keep their distance from Paternian forces, which made them more vulnerable to Paternian artillery and airstrikes.
Also, most troops were issued the M16A1 rifle. That thing is brutal. Its 5.56mm bullet can punch through body armor at 600 meters, and a competent marksman can hit you at 800 meters on semi-auto. Fires at 800 rounds per minute, and is quite controllable in short bursts. Feeds from a standard 20 round magazine, although 30 round magazines were also available.
For longer-distances, we have the M25 rifle, also known as the AR-10. That thing is about as controllable, uses a larger 7.62mm cartridge. You can reliably hit targets at ranges of 1,000 meters.
Sentian weapons were far less effective, and many resorted to using captured Paternian M16 and AR-10 rifles.
This was our experience in Africa.
@PINK The Paternian Air Force is not beyond using enemy IFF frequencies to infiltrate enemy air space.
@Botfinder It's a stealthy plane, but not as much as an F-22 or B-2.
That being said, it's better than a Super Hornet.
Not sure how an F-5 or A-4 would fare. They're pretty tiny planes.
@ColonelStriker Same.
Although I'm pretty sure it will suffer from power-creep, just like the actual thing.
This is an upgraded aircraft, and has the benefit of early DIE systems. @PINK
Thanks! @TAplanes
@TAplanes ?
@PyrusEnderhunter It saw plenty of action in the Southern Rebellion. Its role in Operation Windlass was less significant.
In both cases, it wasn't too great as a reconnaissance vehicle, and was quickly replaced by armored cars in this role.
However, it was still very useful in policing actions against stragglers and guerilla forces. Its relatively light weight, effective protection, and good firepower made it quite viable.
And remember, the normal course of politics (and leadership, in general) mean that you will have to dick moves in order to achieve your goals. The trick is to not to do it to those who will keep you in power.
Permission to make variant and have upgrades?
@Alix451 @PINK Invasion of ISFOS-held Africa
Laupa Magnum was made much later. @KillShot86
@JakeTheDogg Here's a better version.
@Dllama4 Finally added a trigger.
We had Huey choppers.
We never made any tank of this model. All Wittmans are Belkan-made. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@2344skyler In a game where there is many ways to grief, there is certainly many who will abuse it.
@KDS NP! Can you give me a brief run-down of factions in this RP so I can participate?
C&C kind of stale now.
@marcox43 If you can, use Notepad C++
@marcox43 If you want a governed speed, then you need to adjust that on the wheels.
This can be done through XML modding.
Rip. @JakeTheDogg
Ask the Belkans. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Changed. @AccipitrisEnterprises
So the Halberd is an active soft-kill system? @AccipitrisEnterprises
I do have a Mauser C96 model that is my most upvoted build. @Dllama4
I know plenty of people build tanks. Am rather acquainted with them.
I was wondering whether people to mock performance trials in this fashion. @Delphinus
Tempted am I to submit a DL-44.
@Delphinus Do you know of anyone else on the site who does anything like this? Just wondering.
@PINK @GoldenEagle @AccipitrisEnterprises
I see. We have given it a 105mm cannon and a 700hp engine. The TD role has been taken over by wheeled armored cars.
Also, we found that both machines cost just as much to operate, but the T-55 has better armor and firepower than the Walker Bulldog.
In the RP, it is generally considered obsolete, but is still viable with upgrades. @PhantomBladeCorp
@PhantomBladeCorp lol
It's considered a light tank in the Paternian Army because of how it's used than its technical characteristics.
Light tanks are used for force economy and reconnaissance.
Perfect! I need this for my next build: T-55P!
Basically a T-55 in Paternian Army service. We captured a bunch of them from a nation we obliterated from the face of the earth.
Reconfigured for Paternian controls and 105mm M68 cannon, it is often used as a training vehicle, although it does see use as a heavily-armored 35-ton light tank.
It's popularity is mixed. In light tank battalions, it is valued for its vastly superior armor and firepower compared to the M41(90) Walker Bulldog they previously used. In main battle tank battalions, it is derided for its cramped interior. It should be noted that light tank crews are typically 5'4" and 120lbs, or 1.63m and 54.4 kg, where main battle tank crews are typically 5'8" and 185lbs, or 1.73m and 83.9 kg.