@Squirrel
I should have clarified more but yes the X-32 was comparable to the X-35 when it came to maneuverability and performance in normal flight ops but when it came to VTOL/hovering it was lacking compared to the X-35. While I do think the X-32 was a little inferior to the X-35, it does seem like the JSF competition favored Lockheed Martin from day one (not to mention they were caught bribing).
I also noticed a lot of the major US military contracts have been going to Boeing and Northrop Grumman lately. I Guess the USAF/USN is getting tired of LM's baloney.
T-X: Boeing/SAAB
Next-Gen Stealth Bomber: N.G.
MQ-25: Boeing
MH-139: Boeing/Leonardo
KC-X: Boeing
I think 2018 has been one of Boeing's finest years.
@Nerfaddict
I went 10,000mph and then I lost control of acceleration and it went like a 1,000,000mph in a heartbeat and my SP crashed. 10/10 would crash my PC again. 👌
Wow I just found out about this. I use to watch some of his awesome RC flying videos but kinda forgot his channel until you brought it up again. That's sad, RIP Samm.
@JED
You don't have to give me the F-36B you were working on, the F-36A will do just fine as it's already complete and it's the right scale/size. If you still want, I can also submit it into the 6th gen competition.
@JED
Ah that sucks man, but no problem! You don't have to cancel the project, but if you still are, can Rainier take it over? I really like the F-36A, and I want to upgrade it with a full cockpit, functioning weapons bay, and overall better detail. Basically I want to further develop the design. It will still retain the original designation & name and I'll of course credit you.
@JED
By basic airframe, I mean literally make the basic airplane (fuselage, wings, tail, etc.). When you make the wings, don't add any panels to them. Just leave the wings as bare-stock SP wings. I think I'll be able to make more realistic looking wings.
So mainly do the fuselage and basic wings & tail fins.
@JED
Detailed flight controls are basically using rotators and & fuselage pieces to make a wing more realistic. Look at Hyperloop's fighters for an example.
@JED
Also, I already got the cockpit covered. The cockpit is going to be very simple, and will take inspiration from one of my recent projects, where I developed a new cockpit I like to call "SLIM" (Secure Link Interface Module). It's an advanced ground-based cockpit designed to fly the QF-65 unmanned fighter using augmented reality (in concept, not really possible in SP) and cameras on the QF-65 airframe. The F-36 won't feature the exact features of the SLIM cockpit, but the design & style of the SLIM cockpit (comfort, simple, but lots of information being displayed) will be implemented on the F-36B. Don't worry about making room for the SLIM cockpit, just do the airframe and I'll do that once your finished with your part.
@JED
I'd actually prefer if you complete the basic airframe first, while I add the details afterwords, like the cockpit, landing gear, detailed wing flight controls, weapons bay, etc.. (Hope your fine with that)
@JED
Yea I'd greatly preferred if you scaled it down to the size of your current Thorny devil, before I start on it. The lines and shaping is very smooth, and looks very sharp, but it just needs to be a little smaller.
The ekranoplan-style ground-effect vehicles always fascinates me, especially when I first saw it in FSX. I heard Russia is trying to revive the design for arctic-expeditions.
@JED
Ok, sounds good. You can make the base airframe and I'll add more detail to it. I don't plan on making my Viper concept, I have a cooler concept in mind I would like to do (if I find time to build it). It's sort of along the lines of a single-engine YF-23, and looks kinda like a manned version of my QF-65, except the intake is at the bottom.
@JED
I know I'm talking a lot (lol) but I also want to add a really crazy camouflage pattern onto it, inspired off the real Thorny Devil's color/camo pattern
@JED
So I think we already have our basic airframe. We don't really need to build anything from scratch, just tweak the design a bit. I think we should add a fully modeled cockpit, a more detailed wing with deflecting flight controls (which I can add), more detailed landing gear, a functioning weapons bay, and I think it's gonna need a better engine with more thrust, which I can model as well.
@JED
So comparing the F-36 to my QF-65, I'd say the F-36 is pretty much the right size (scale wise). I think all we need to do is literally add more detail to it. The flight dynamics & maneuverability are top-notch.
I also want to add a fully modeled cockpit into it as well, although not too complex.
@JED
Yep I remember the White Ghost. It also kinda looks like your ATA as well. I really love the YF-23, it's one gorgeous fighter, and it's the inspiration for the V-tail on the viper concept.
@JED
Also, I do have a computer, so I can do more with xml modding and details. I have a neat 5th gen fighter design I drew up way back, but it's got a few neat design features I'd like to show you.
@JED
We don't have to build or chat at the same exact times. Just build, draw/design or send a message whenever you want to.
Yep, indeed I am a Christian, in fact I recently just got baptized. That's cool your one with Christ as well (no one else except us is talking on this page/build so it think it's fine if we mention religion).
Wonderful build & jet! I love the detail you put into both the jet & and the description. Although Boeing/Saab recently just won the T-X contract for the USAF.
@JED
I was thinking we should chance the designation from -36 because it's already taken by the Boeing X-36, and I was thinking of F-55, but that designation was used by both the Lockheed Martin X-55 and the Curtiss XP-55 so I think F-36 will do just fine.
@JED
Sure, let's use the F-36 as a benchmark for our design. I'll try to get done with my school work by 5 PM (PST) so I can draw my idea since I didn't get the chance to last night, and you can draw yours as well. I kind of want to draw out the fighter first, and then see what components we are each going to make.
@JED
Well, since I do online school I can hop on SP whenever I want, like if I want to take a quick break or so. I don't really have a set time. I'm on Pacific Standard Time and I guess 5 PM - 8 PM would be good for me to hop on SP for a good 2-3 hours to work on our build.
@Squirrel
I should have clarified more but yes the X-32 was comparable to the X-35 when it came to maneuverability and performance in normal flight ops but when it came to VTOL/hovering it was lacking compared to the X-35. While I do think the X-32 was a little inferior to the X-35, it does seem like the JSF competition favored Lockheed Martin from day one (not to mention they were caught bribing).
I also noticed a lot of the major US military contracts have been going to Boeing and Northrop Grumman lately. I Guess the USAF/USN is getting tired of LM's baloney.
T-X: Boeing/SAAB
Next-Gen Stealth Bomber: N.G.
MQ-25: Boeing
MH-139: Boeing/Leonardo
KC-X: Boeing
I think 2018 has been one of Boeing's finest years.
@Nerfaddict
Don't be, go a trillion mph in SP and the game crashes.
@Nerfaddict
No I was joking on the PC part but it did crash my SP game. lol
Although my PC's fan did kick in pretty hard when the scramjet broke mach 30 XD...
@Nerfaddict
I went 10,000mph and then I lost control of acceleration and it went like a 1,000,000mph in a heartbeat and my SP crashed. 10/10 would crash my PC again. 👌
How to crash your game or nearly kill your PC XD.
@JoddyFubuki788
Yes I'm competing in the 6th gen fighter challenge, although I haven't finished or uploaded my fighter yet.
Very well done. Looks like I got some serious competition. ;)
If this is for Tessemi's 6th gen fighter challenge I'm screwed... O_O
This looks very badass!
Wow I just found out about this. I use to watch some of his awesome RC flying videos but kinda forgot his channel until you brought it up again. That's sad, RIP Samm.
Looks like ya'll had a fun time XD
@TheWhistlingDeath
I used Imgflip to find the meme templates.
@z24zorpx4
Seriously, have you not seen it? I shattered the mains and prop trying to land in that cramped space. XD
@JED
Ok thanks JED! I'll tag you before I release it. Yea when your ready when can attempt another collab in the future.
@JED
You don't have to give me the F-36B you were working on, the F-36A will do just fine as it's already complete and it's the right scale/size. If you still want, I can also submit it into the 6th gen competition.
@JED
Ah that sucks man, but no problem! You don't have to cancel the project, but if you still are, can Rainier take it over? I really like the F-36A, and I want to upgrade it with a full cockpit, functioning weapons bay, and overall better detail. Basically I want to further develop the design. It will still retain the original designation & name and I'll of course credit you.
Sounds about right XD
Dllama4 lol comment of the year XD
Wish I had time to join. I was going to join you guys but when I finally got to firing up SP the fly in was already over.
Congrats!
Congrats man! You deserve the spotlight, your Draco is very well done.
@JED
By basic airframe, I mean literally make the basic airplane (fuselage, wings, tail, etc.). When you make the wings, don't add any panels to them. Just leave the wings as bare-stock SP wings. I think I'll be able to make more realistic looking wings.
So mainly do the fuselage and basic wings & tail fins.
@JED
It's got nothing to do with the actual flight dynamics. It's purely "eye candy" but it makes the plane look so much more realistic.
@JED
Detailed flight controls are basically using rotators and & fuselage pieces to make a wing more realistic. Look at Hyperloop's fighters for an example.
@JED
Really??? How? I hear iOS doesn't allow mods.
@JED
And yes I will make a mod-free version since your on iOS. (since SLIM uses Gestour's instrumentation mod.)
@JED
Also, I already got the cockpit covered. The cockpit is going to be very simple, and will take inspiration from one of my recent projects, where I developed a new cockpit I like to call "SLIM" (Secure Link Interface Module). It's an advanced ground-based cockpit designed to fly the QF-65 unmanned fighter using augmented reality (in concept, not really possible in SP) and cameras on the QF-65 airframe. The F-36 won't feature the exact features of the SLIM cockpit, but the design & style of the SLIM cockpit (comfort, simple, but lots of information being displayed) will be implemented on the F-36B. Don't worry about making room for the SLIM cockpit, just do the airframe and I'll do that once your finished with your part.
@JED
Also the camouflage is going to be one of the last things I do on the plane.
@JED
I'd actually prefer if you complete the basic airframe first, while I add the details afterwords, like the cockpit, landing gear, detailed wing flight controls, weapons bay, etc.. (Hope your fine with that)
@JED
Yea I'd greatly preferred if you scaled it down to the size of your current Thorny devil, before I start on it. The lines and shaping is very smooth, and looks very sharp, but it just needs to be a little smaller.
The ekranoplan-style ground-effect vehicles always fascinates me, especially when I first saw it in FSX. I heard Russia is trying to revive the design for arctic-expeditions.
Awesome plane dude, looks badass and unique.
I smell an FA-2 Fand II around here...
2spooky4me...
@JED
Ok, sounds good. You can make the base airframe and I'll add more detail to it. I don't plan on making my Viper concept, I have a cooler concept in mind I would like to do (if I find time to build it). It's sort of along the lines of a single-engine YF-23, and looks kinda like a manned version of my QF-65, except the intake is at the bottom.
@JED
I know I'm talking a lot (lol) but I also want to add a really crazy camouflage pattern onto it, inspired off the real Thorny Devil's color/camo pattern
@JED
Also, is this going to be a naval-carrier based aircraft or a USAF land-based fighter?
@JED
So I think we already have our basic airframe. We don't really need to build anything from scratch, just tweak the design a bit. I think we should add a fully modeled cockpit, a more detailed wing with deflecting flight controls (which I can add), more detailed landing gear, a functioning weapons bay, and I think it's gonna need a better engine with more thrust, which I can model as well.
@JED
So comparing the F-36 to my QF-65, I'd say the F-36 is pretty much the right size (scale wise). I think all we need to do is literally add more detail to it. The flight dynamics & maneuverability are top-notch.
I also want to add a fully modeled cockpit into it as well, although not too complex.
@JED
Yep I remember the White Ghost. It also kinda looks like your ATA as well. I really love the YF-23, it's one gorgeous fighter, and it's the inspiration for the V-tail on the viper concept.
@JED
I was thinking of incorporating some design aspects of my old viper concept into the F-36.
For the 6th gen challenge, I guess we're basically making a more souped-up and more detailed F-36.
Here is a very old 5th gen fighter concept I made awhile ago (from when I was in a driving school class lol) dubbed the Viper concept.
@JED
Also, I do have a computer, so I can do more with xml modding and details. I have a neat 5th gen fighter design I drew up way back, but it's got a few neat design features I'd like to show you.
@JED
We don't have to build or chat at the same exact times. Just build, draw/design or send a message whenever you want to.
Yep, indeed I am a Christian, in fact I recently just got baptized. That's cool your one with Christ as well (no one else except us is talking on this page/build so it think it's fine if we mention religion).
@JED
Oh ok I thought Thorny Devil was a made up name, but since it's an actual animal that's totally cool.
Wonderful build & jet! I love the detail you put into both the jet & and the description. Although Boeing/Saab recently just won the T-X contract for the USAF.
@JED
I'd also prefer F-36A Thorn over Thorny Devil, but the choice is yours.
@JED
I was thinking we should chance the designation from -36 because it's already taken by the Boeing X-36, and I was thinking of F-55, but that designation was used by both the Lockheed Martin X-55 and the Curtiss XP-55 so I think F-36 will do just fine.
@JED
Sure, let's use the F-36 as a benchmark for our design. I'll try to get done with my school work by 5 PM (PST) so I can draw my idea since I didn't get the chance to last night, and you can draw yours as well. I kind of want to draw out the fighter first, and then see what components we are each going to make.
@JED
Well, since I do online school I can hop on SP whenever I want, like if I want to take a quick break or so. I don't really have a set time. I'm on Pacific Standard Time and I guess 5 PM - 8 PM would be good for me to hop on SP for a good 2-3 hours to work on our build.