No exploiting glitches old engines or any parts may have
What is counted as "glitches"?
How max GS will be measured?
Max plane size limit?
What if i edit in-game designer instead of editing xml?
What if i edit designer's preferences instead of xml?
What is Unweighted GS and Weighted GS in results table?
@SPMTB challenge objective is to destroy planes.
In games humans usually destroys planes with missiles. (IRL less than ten planes destroyed with missiles in XXI century)
But it must be able to fly some frames after enemy destroyed, so instead of frag i mounted a gun on it.
What's wrong?
I tested it on S-381T (iirc it's was most maneuverable plane in the challenge) and AMI TF-33M1A (because of it's missiles), and it won, but fight with Nightfury Inferno v2 was long and didn't finished in ten minutes.
So, probably, it's good enough.
@Bonelesspizza
I know it.
I set deflection angle to 25 deegres because AI oversteers even with this small angle, and if you have big control surface with small deflection angle you will need less energy to turn.
About wing loading, at some point it's lift was too big and it just started flying at 4Mm/h without any possibility of control. This is the reason why it's speed limited to 1300 km/h
I agree with @AN2Felllla .
Also, in general situation like paneling binary search a lot faster than triangulation and precise enough.
Instead of calculating position of each triangle you can attach triangles to rods and then just rotate it around rods.
UPD: for binary search you don't need any program opened other than SP(even a calculator), and no more than 60 clicks for maximum possible precision(iirc SP uses single pecision floating point format for part position).
Why do you need airplane?
It's wings can't work effectively at angle of attack above 20, it's hull have a lot of drag, and it's propulsion system uses over 20% of its power just for turning.
Did you tried to rotate main wing relative to angle of attack?
Did you tried to move thrusters into center of mass?
Maybe omniderictional propulsion, like on aurora starfury, but with airbrakes will be better for post-stall maneuvers?
Can it have legs with many segments?
Can it have tentacles instead of legs?
How many legs|tentacles can it have?
Weapon types allowed?
Is force fields allowed?
Is self-repair allowed?
Is jumping|caterpillar designs allowed?
Any min|max size restrictions?
Must it be manned, or can it be semi-automatic|remote controlled?
But if you don't need altitude above 1 meter and you don't need to hover above water, you can edit resizeable wheels xml size to very small value on y axis and big value on z axis.
Detacher itself points up, so it can't act like a thruster.
But jet need some time to raise it's power, something like FT smooth function, and maybe it just doesn't have time to raise power during acceleration.
If center of mass still in airplane, but cockpit 3600 meters above, it's moment of inertia will be crazy, also it will be hard to aim.
But the idea is very good.
Also, according to info on this page it's maximum acceleration is under 3.6 m/s/s.
So, you're using heavy detachers to stop it while jet accelerating to it's max power?
Or did you used jet's power multiplier?
@EpicNyles27
MaxAngularVelocity works only with engine, like clock generator for AC electric motor or gearbox top gear for ICE or turbine.
If power is consumed from motion of craft it can rotate with speed of up to (180.0-0.0) deegres per physics frame without any troubles.
As you can see, it doesn't have ICE at all, all power comes from jet, and wheels is used just because MrShenanigans said i can't use sledge.
///edited later
Also, if there's no parameter in xml file, this parameter will be set to default value.
this is the gear part i asked about, and this is how sleight looks like, maybe i just misspelled it.
So, can i build a dragster without piston engine?
If no, i will use just 150 hp, because without modded gears it don't means anything even with 100M hp.
And can i use modded airbrakes?
Do you mean friction, rotation speed, or any modification?
Which jet can i use?
Can i edit jet's size and mass?
Can i use any engines except jets and wheels?
Can i use flapping wings?
Can i use sleigh instead of gears?
And how will you test it's speed?
If answer for two or more of these questions is "yes" i can build a dragster that will go 11000+ km/h.
What is the "power" in tnis list?
Is it power in whatts?
Or is it thrust in newtons, kgs, or something else?
Also, is fuel consumption calculated in gallons or liters?
@headphones @Trijetz
Honestly i upload it 2 months ago for this post.
Yes, it's a reupload, but original is deleted.
No, i haven't permission from Randomusername, because her account is deleted and i don't remember how to contact her.
Also, i thought that i don't need permission to save the history.
It's nice, but heavy(88046 kg, 5.9916 Cd) transport can't turn as fast and precisely as specially designed close air support airplane, so it probably need turret instead of fixed gun.
@Eiro
For example, you need to add two binary numbers: 11 and 10, and you can save two digits for result.
11+10=101,
but you can save only two digits, and you have
11+10=01
in result.
Decimal example:
80+31=111
but you can save only two digits, so result is
80+31=11.
/
Now let's solve one more example:
Plane state at frame 0:
Plane mass is 0.5 kg
Plane drag is 0.5 kg
Plane speed is 1 meters per frame
Engine thrust is 50 kg
/
Equation for frame 0
Thrust-drag=49.5 kg force
Force:mass=99 meters per frame squared acceleration
Speed at start+acceleration=0 meters per frame
/
Plane state at frame 1:
Plane mass is 0.5 kg
Plane drag is 0 kg
Plane speed is 0 meters per frame
Engine thrust is 50 kg
/
Equation for frame 1
Thrust-drag=50 kg force
Force:mass=0 meters per frame squared acceleration
Speed at start+acceleration=0 meters per frame
/
Plane state at frame 2:
Plane mass is 0.5 kg
Plane drag is 0 kg
Plane speed is 0 meters per frame
Engine thrust is 50 kg
/
It's simplified 1D case, without gravity, lift, etc, but i thought you can understand this principe.
Yes, it's cool, but first we need to find out why this is happening.
Because, if it's speed integer overflow it may work only on n-bit cpu's, but may not work on n+1-bit cpu's.
If it's something else it also may work only on n-bit cpu's...
So, do you have any idea why it happening?
Also, if we have equation we can use it in any planes, else it may not work.
@redcrafter idk then. Gears have drag and weight, but it still must be able to fly.
@redcrafter If it's because of landing gears you can start in air.
Prizes?
Rules?
Anything?
0:21 You can just change your IP address, or is it too hard for SP users?
Can i swap my plane to newer version?
What is counted as "glitches"?
How max GS will be measured?
Max plane size limit?
What if i edit in-game designer instead of editing xml?
What if i edit designer's preferences instead of xml?
What is Unweighted GS and Weighted GS in results table?
@SPMTB challenge objective is to destroy planes.
In games humans usually destroys planes with missiles. (IRL less than ten planes destroyed with missiles in XXI century)
But it must be able to fly some frames after enemy destroyed, so instead of frag i mounted a gun on it.
What's wrong?
I tested it on S-381T (iirc it's was most maneuverable plane in the challenge) and AMI TF-33M1A (because of it's missiles), and it won, but fight with Nightfury Inferno v2 was long and didn't finished in ten minutes.
So, probably, it's good enough.
@SPMTB can it participate, or do i need to change something?
@Bonelesspizza
I know it.
I set deflection angle to 25 deegres because AI oversteers even with this small angle, and if you have big control surface with small deflection angle you will need less energy to turn.
About wing loading, at some point it's lift was too big and it just started flying at 4Mm/h without any possibility of control. This is the reason why it's speed limited to 1300 km/h
I agree with @AN2Felllla .
Also, in general situation like paneling binary search a lot faster than triangulation and precise enough.
Instead of calculating position of each triangle you can attach triangles to rods and then just rotate it around rods.
UPD: for binary search you don't need any program opened other than SP(even a calculator), and no more than 60 clicks for maximum possible precision(iirc SP uses single pecision floating point format for part position).
i will disassemble it first, because i don't need another death os.
Can i edit xml values except health?
If yes, does custom AI counts as auto-aim?
Can it be supermaneuverable?
@MaliciousMuffin
F18 have research modification, it named High Alpha Research Vehicle, and it can fly at aoa >60.
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Why do you need airplane?
It's wings can't work effectively at angle of attack above 20, it's hull have a lot of drag, and it's propulsion system uses over 20% of its power just for turning.
Did you tried to rotate main wing relative to angle of attack?
Did you tried to move thrusters into center of mass?
Maybe omniderictional propulsion, like on aurora starfury, but with airbrakes will be better for post-stall maneuvers?
Does kangaroo counts as a walker?
Can it have legs with many segments?
Can it have tentacles instead of legs?
How many legs|tentacles can it have?
Weapon types allowed?
Is force fields allowed?
Is self-repair allowed?
Is jumping|caterpillar designs allowed?
Any min|max size restrictions?
Must it be manned, or can it be semi-automatic|remote controlled?
But if you don't need altitude above 1 meter and you don't need to hover above water, you can edit resizeable wheels xml size to very small value on
yaxis and big value onzaxis.How did you busted it to 9860 km/h?
Which settings did you used during testing?
Can it be wind-powered?
Can it have funky trees controllers?
Can it be underwater?
Detacher itself points up, so it can't act like a thruster.
But jet need some time to raise it's power, something like FT smooth function, and maybe it just doesn't have time to raise power during acceleration.
If center of mass still in airplane, but cockpit 3600 meters above, it's moment of inertia will be crazy, also it will be hard to aim.
But the idea is very good.
Also, according to info on this page it's maximum acceleration is under 3.6 m/s/s.
So, you're using heavy detachers to stop it while jet accelerating to it's max power?
Or did you used jet's power multiplier?
It looks strange that it have only 72 drag points without tail fairing.
Did you edited dragScale or calculateDrag?
@EpicNyles27
MaxAngularVelocity works only with engine, like clock generator for AC electric motor or gearbox top gear for ICE or turbine.
If power is consumed from motion of craft it can rotate with speed of up to (180.0-0.0) deegres per physics frame without any troubles.
As you can see, it doesn't have ICE at all, all power comes from jet, and wheels is used just because MrShenanigans said i can't use sledge.
///edited later
Also, if there's no parameter in xml file, this parameter will be set to default value.
@Imlazytobuild
@MrShenanigans said
Sometimes you just need to edit question to have the right answer.
Don't you think propellers will be more effective at this velocity?
@MrShenanigans
this?
this is the gear part i asked about, and this is how sleight looks like, maybe i just misspelled it.
So, can i build a dragster without piston engine?
If no, i will use just 150 hp, because without modded gears it don't means anything even with 100M hp.
And can i use modded airbrakes?
Do you mean friction, rotation speed, or any modification?
Which jet can i use?
Can i edit jet's size and mass?
Can i use any engines except jets and wheels?
Can i use flapping wings?
Can i use sleigh instead of gears?
And how will you test it's speed?
If answer for two or more of these questions is "yes" i can build a dragster that will go 11000+ km/h.
Потолок в 15 километров у истребителя 5 поколения это грустно.
А на уровне моря какая максимальная перегрузка? 7 g постоянных выдержит?
What is the "power" in tnis list?
Is it power in whatts?
Or is it thrust in newtons, kgs, or something else?
Also, is fuel consumption calculated in gallons or liters?
@headphones @Trijetz
Honestly i upload it 2 months ago for this post.
Yes, it's a reupload, but original is deleted.
No, i haven't permission from Randomusername, because her account is deleted and i don't remember how to contact her.
Also, i thought that i don't need permission to save the history.
Fiat Turbina with jet-powered rear axis
or Lotus 56B(it's simpler, becase it doesn't need transmission)
Why is there so much Gundam last time?
Good system, but sadly it still don't work at slopes(at 0:57 turret rotates down a bit).
It's nice, but heavy(88046 kg, 5.9916 Cd) transport can't turn as fast and precisely as specially designed close air support airplane, so it probably need turret instead of fixed gun.
Can it use wings as shields?
Does it turns wings automatically, or does wings turns by airflow?
You need smother tail (because of aerodynamic), and move engines to upper wing surface (because engines too far away from center of mass).
Then, how will you do this?
ok. Can you find a copy in more than 22500 pages of designs?
What about 359.9375 deegres aiming miniguns?
@BuiltBionixInd10
@L3dg3ndary
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@Eiro
For example, you need to add two binary numbers: 11 and 10, and you can save two digits for result.
11+10=101,
but you can save only two digits, and you have
11+10=01
in result.
Decimal example:
80+31=111
but you can save only two digits, so result is
80+31=11.
/
Now let's solve one more example:
Plane state at frame 0:
Plane mass is 0.5 kg
Plane drag is 0.5 kg
Plane speed is 1 meters per frame
Engine thrust is 50 kg
/
Equation for frame 0
Thrust-drag=49.5 kg force
Force:mass=99 meters per frame squared acceleration
Speed at start+acceleration=0 meters per frame
/
Plane state at frame 1:
Plane mass is 0.5 kg
Plane drag is 0 kg
Plane speed is 0 meters per frame
Engine thrust is 50 kg
/
Equation for frame 1
Thrust-drag=50 kg force
Force:mass=0 meters per frame squared acceleration
Speed at start+acceleration=0 meters per frame
/
Plane state at frame 2:
Plane mass is 0.5 kg
Plane drag is 0 kg
Plane speed is 0 meters per frame
Engine thrust is 50 kg
/
It's simplified 1D case, without gravity, lift, etc, but i thought you can understand this principe.
Yes, it's cool, but first we need to find out why this is happening.
Because, if it's speed integer overflow it may work only on n-bit cpu's, but may not work on n+1-bit cpu's.
If it's something else it also may work only on n-bit cpu's...
So, do you have any idea why it happening?
Also, if we have equation we can use it in any planes, else it may not work.
Cool!
But it's like bird is drunk a bit,
FreeCam mod can track detail automatically.
Tag me, please
fuselage can have buoyancy, so you dont need blocks...
Also you can increase propeller area and power.
Can i use two(drag and lift) jets with FT instead of wings, to make it more realistic?
Can i make a brikc?