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Me 262A-1a/U4

4,189 ZWLenning  7 months ago
Auto Credit Based on MAHADI's WWII Jets Challenge! (CLOSED)

before I begin, let me say that this was supposed to be a relatively simple build for mahadi's ww2 jet challenge. Then everyone released a 262. consequently I then decided, in one of my wiser moments, to tactically and completely intentionally bite off more than I can chew... and now this is the result. I'm happy with it, but ohhh boy was it a pain to make! this is also the reason there are some graphics collisions. I just didn't know how to make them go away


here is the mobile friendly version - fictional desert camo, approx. 300 less parts


'SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A TANK CANNON ON A JET FIGHTER!'

the ME-262A-1a/U4 was a bomber destroyer version of the ME-262A-1a that never entered service. It consisted of two prototypes with an adapted 50 mm MK 214 (intended armament) or BK 5 (test ordnance only) anti-tank cannon in the nose. Though it never saw combat, the 'narwhal', as it was known, did fly, though was proven to, unfortunately, have a reduced top speed and a significantly reduced agility. However, this was a minor factor as the Narwhal was designed to fight bombers.


armament:

1x Mk214a cannon with 32 high explosive tracer shells
yes that's it. but don't despair, a single shot will annihilate any plane


controls

  • AG1:
  • AG2:
    ...
  • AG6: Landing lights (little to no evidence of their existence in real life)
  • AG7: nav lights
  • AG8: gear doors
  • trim: trim
  • VTOL down: flaps

notes

  • yes there are layer clashes, they are random and I don't understand them, nor could I fix them. They are not present on the mobile friendly version due to the differend livery.
  • the engines are way too powerful... but give realistic acceleration and top speed.
  • It has interesting stalling characteristics: at an AoA of 14.2 degrees, the forward wing will stall. However, the horizontal stabilizer will not... which makes for some very interesting stalling characteristics. However, if DebugExpression AngleOfAttack is used, this can be managed by the user. this stalling is semi realistic... unless engine power is applied. this is where the unrealistic twr is the true downfall.
  • landing speed with flaps down is about 110kts, and about 120-130kts with flaps up. takeoff speed is about 130kts fully loaded.
  • i have accidentally created the most stable flaps in the universe. there is no pitch change when flaps are applied, though there is a noticeable increase in lift when flying slow. however, the plane will become more unstable when the flaps are deployed.
  • no trim tabs as would have been seen on the real thing. however the plane is still trimmable.

credits

  • @edensk for reminding me of the smooth command - credit for engines therefore goes to you
  • @brians1209 for the blueprint for the nose - credit for nose and cannon shape is yours
  • everyone who made a 262 - you forced me into turning this project into something good, I hope i beat every single one of you xD (seriously though, every 262 deserves to win the competition they are all brilliant and yes, I have flown most of them)

Gallery:






thumbnail picture taken in pearl harbour map

Spotlights

General Characteristics

  • Predecessor WWII Jets Challenge! (CLOSED)
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 27.9ft (8.5m)
  • Length 31.2ft (9.5m)
  • Height 8.9ft (2.7m)
  • Empty Weight 6,306lbs (2,860kg)
  • Loaded Weight 14,428lbs (6,544kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 12.149
  • Wing Loading 13.3lbs/ft2 (64.8kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 1,087.5ft2 (101.0m2)
  • Drag Points 1103

Parts

  • Number of Parts 821
  • Control Surfaces 2
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    Thanks for 50 upvotes guys!
    Edit: 60 upvotes

    Pinned 7 months ago
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    My favorite German meme machine lol love it

    +1 2 months ago
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    126k MAHADI

    also, learn FT codes for LG doors. that will improve functionality. use the bottom lair of the wing for flaps, not the top one.

    6 months ago
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    126k MAHADI

    it's a bit smaller than the real plane. also you can improve the performance by making sure that CoM and CoL are in the same Y-axis and reducing distance between them a little bit.

    6 months ago
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    126k MAHADI

    RATING

    Looks : 9.25/10 pts.
    Performance : 8.75/10 pts.
    Details : 9.15/10 pts.
    Weaponry : 8.5/10 pts.
    Functionality : 8/10 pts.
    Bonus : 9/10 (Livery)

    OVERALL RATING : 8.78/10

    6 months ago
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    1,547 FoxTrotOne

    @Alta2809 this is an awkward place to chat lol. Lets delete our comments and talk somewhere else. Cya

    +1 6 months ago
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    6,768 Kangy

    Yeah I do, I’m pretty sure my callsign is Phortis 1, which is a phly daily joke on the guys in Dunkirk. @FoxTrotOne

    6 months ago
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    6,768 Kangy

    Ay thanks! @FoxTrotOne

    6 months ago
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    1,547 FoxTrotOne

    @Alta2809 ah, you got me. Good job. I will give u 3 upvotes. Very good job on noticing XD

    6 months ago
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    6,768 Kangy

    @FoxTrotOne Hey your profile pic is from Wings of Duty, now known as Gunship: WWII

    6 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @OneTwo thanks!

    7 months ago
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    5,665 One2

    The definition of fine, hard, honest work has been achieved. Purely by this post.

    There are others too! Just wanted to coin it here.

    +1 7 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @EngineerOtaku the bk5 was put in place while the lighter version of the mk 214 (the 214a) was being developed... and although recoil is present I don't think recoil would have been much of a problem because a pilot would only fire off one shot at a time.
    So I don't think the cannon itself was a concern.
    I built it off the 214 because this is supposed to be based on the production version.
    Thanks so much for the praise, and go for it!

    +1 7 months ago
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    Definitely an interesting footnote in the Me 262's history (I also love the Nightfighter version), and in some ways it's probably good that the A1a/U4 didn't enter service. From what I recall in addition to performance losses the Bk5 cannon itself was not reliable at all, and just firing the cannon could slow the plane in flight.
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    Maybe I should build a unique Me 262 instead of the A1; I bet the HGIII concept would be fun to pull off.

    +1 7 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @lilgreen06 thanks! I believe jamesPLANESii has done a tutorial on custom gear (I don't wanna tag him unnecessarily) if you wanna learn

    7 months ago
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    Dang! Amazing job, I now want to try to make an ME262 without special landing gear , cuz I don't know how to make them, great job though!

    +1 7 months ago
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    120 Lazer22

    Ah yes, the plane that can finally counter yak-3T in war thunder... I had this plane but never sniped anyone with it, used it only against enemy ground targets...

    7 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @jamesPLANESii thank you!

    7 months ago
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    163k AN2Felllla

    Cool livery!

    +1 7 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @MufazzalPasha tbf your plane was the main one I was trying to beat... I'm honestly not sure I did

    +1 7 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @ChrisPy thanks dude!

    7 months ago
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    4,189 ZWLenning

    @MAHADI first off thank you!
    To make the camo I used yellow fuselages to make the outline (you can see that) and then added more of the pieces I used for the fuselage (scaled to like 0.985 or something) before filling in the gaps

    7 months ago
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    126k MAHADI

    how did you do the camo?! it's freaking Awesome!!

    +2 7 months ago
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    Ok this is cool

    +1 7 months ago
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    yeah, I am really waiting for your plane. Your plane is amazing! But I'm sure I'll lose to you😂, very cool man ....

    +1 7 months ago
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