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Me 262A-1a/U4

3,992 ZWLenning  9 days ago
Auto Credit Based on MAHADI's WWII Jets Challenge! (Open)

before I begin, let me say that this was supposed to be a relatively simple build for mahadi's ww2 jet challenge. Then everyone released a 262. consequently I then decided, in one of my wiser moments, to tactically and completely intentionally bite off more than I can chew... and now this is the result. I'm happy with it, but ohhh boy was it a pain to make! this is also the reason there are some graphics collisions. I just didn't know how to make them go away


here is the mobile friendly version - fictional desert camo, approx. 300 less parts


'SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A TANK CANNON ON A JET FIGHTER!'

the ME-262A-1a/U4 was a bomber destroyer version of the ME-262A-1a that never entered service. It consisted of two prototypes with an adapted 50 mm MK 214 (intended armament) or BK 5 (test ordnance only) anti-tank cannon in the nose. Though it never saw combat, the 'narwhal', as it was known, did fly, though was proven to, unfortunately, have a reduced top speed and a significantly reduced agility. However, this was a minor factor as the Narwhal was designed to fight bombers.


armament:

1x Mk214a cannon with 32 high explosive tracer shells
yes that's it. but don't despair, a single shot will annihilate any plane


controls

  • AG1:
  • AG2:
    ...
  • AG6: Landing lights (little to no evidence of their existence in real life)
  • AG7: nav lights
  • AG8: gear doors
  • trim: trim
  • VTOL down: flaps

notes

  • yes there are layer clashes, they are random and I don't understand them, nor could I fix them. They are not present on the mobile friendly version due to the differend livery.
  • the engines are way too powerful... but give realistic acceleration and top speed.
  • It has interesting stalling characteristics: at an AoA of 14.2 degrees, the forward wing will stall. However, the horizontal stabilizer will not... which makes for some very interesting stalling characteristics. However, if DebugExpression AngleOfAttack is used, this can be managed by the user. this stalling is semi realistic... unless engine power is applied. this is where the unrealistic twr is the true downfall.
  • landing speed with flaps down is about 110kts, and about 120-130kts with flaps up. takeoff speed is about 130kts fully loaded.
  • i have accidentally created the most stable flaps in the universe. there is no pitch change when flaps are applied, though there is a noticeable increase in lift when flying slow. however, the plane will become more unstable when the flaps are deployed.
  • no trim tabs as would have been seen on the real thing. however the plane is still trimmable.

credits

  • @edensk for reminding me of the smooth command - credit for engines therefore goes to you
  • @brians1209 for the blueprint for the nose - credit for nose and cannon shape is yours
  • everyone who made a 262 - you forced me into turning this project into something good, I hope i beat every single one of you xD (seriously though, every 262 deserves to win the competition they are all brilliant and yes, I have flown most of them)

Gallery:






thumbnail picture taken in pearl harbour map

Spotlights

General Characteristics

  • Predecessor WWII Jets Challenge! (Open)
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 27.9ft (8.5m)
  • Length 31.2ft (9.5m)
  • Height 8.9ft (2.7m)
  • Empty Weight 6,306lbs (2,860kg)
  • Loaded Weight 14,428lbs (6,544kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 12.149
  • Wing Loading 13.3lbs/ft2 (64.8kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 1,087.5ft2 (101.0m2)
  • Drag Points 1103

Parts

  • Number of Parts 821
  • Control Surfaces 2
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    Thanks for 50 upvotes guys!
    Edit: 60 upvotes

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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @OneTwo thanks!

    5 days ago
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    4,352 OneTwo

    The definition of fine, hard, honest work has been achieved. Purely by this post.

    There are others too! Just wanted to coin it here.

    +1 6 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @EngineerOtaku the bk5 was put in place while the lighter version of the mk 214 (the 214a) was being developed... and although recoil is present I don't think recoil would have been much of a problem because a pilot would only fire off one shot at a time.
    So I don't think the cannon itself was a concern.
    I built it off the 214 because this is supposed to be based on the production version.
    Thanks so much for the praise, and go for it!

    +1 6 days ago
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    Definitely an interesting footnote in the Me 262's history (I also love the Nightfighter version), and in some ways it's probably good that the A1a/U4 didn't enter service. From what I recall in addition to performance losses the Bk5 cannon itself was not reliable at all, and just firing the cannon could slow the plane in flight.
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    Maybe I should build a unique Me 262 instead of the A1; I bet the HGIII concept would be fun to pull off.

    +1 7 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @lilgreen06 thanks! I believe jamesPLANESii has done a tutorial on custom gear (I don't wanna tag him unnecessarily) if you wanna learn

    7 days ago
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    1,943 lilgreen06

    Dang! Amazing job, I now want to try to make an ME262 without special landing gear , cuz I don't know how to make them, great job though!

    +1 7 days ago
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    Ah yes, the plane that can finally counter yak-3T in war thunder... I had this plane but never sniped anyone with it, used it only against enemy ground targets...

    8 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @jamesPLANESii thank you!

    8 days ago
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    Cool livery!

    +1 8 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @MufazzalPasha tbf your plane was the main one I was trying to beat... I'm honestly not sure I did

    +1 8 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @ChrisPy thanks dude!

    8 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @MAHADI first off thank you!
    To make the camo I used yellow fuselages to make the outline (you can see that) and then added more of the pieces I used for the fuselage (scaled to like 0.985 or something) before filling in the gaps

    8 days ago
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    109k MAHADI

    how did you do the camo?! it's freaking Awesome!!

    +2 9 days ago
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    Ok this is cool

    +1 9 days ago
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    yeah, I am really waiting for your plane. Your plane is amazing! But I'm sure I'll lose to you😂, very cool man ....

    +1 9 days ago
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    64.0k BigChunguss

    Clean paint job dude

    +1 9 days ago
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    10.1k ChrisPy

    I love ur work btw very nice quality

    +1 9 days ago
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    10.1k ChrisPy

    Flight stuff is defenately not perfect but better than most ppls Me-262s actually. I loved the livery and the way this plane was constructed! Great job and keep it up I added a spotlight to help.

    +1 9 days ago
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    3,992 ZWLenning

    @rexzion oh no

    9 days ago
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    6,868 rexzion

    hmm

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    You're welcome.

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