Haha I got saved by an ad @Seredamia

@SupremeDorian This is sad and typical. What I'm saying is obvious with minimal research. Do your job instead of asking the user in question to do it for you. Ask me what I mean when you're in over your head and let me make my case.

Research the symbol on the left shoulder of the skinhead. It's a very common far-right "norse" substitute used by Nazis in the U.S. Research how Nazis attempt to obscure their identity with BS like the "kolovrat" (a swastika substitute). This will only look worse if you don't follow through with your hate speech rule and permanently ban the user. This is turning into a circus. I love it how this drew a bunch of other Nazi sympathizers out of the woodwork so they could be identified. I'm glad I posted this publicly so people can know how much of a comfy nest you've created for vermin on SP.com. Bravo.

And the fact that he claims to be Russian is laughably irrelevant. And it isn't that I think it's hate speech. It's more important that experts tracking the symbols used by hate groups think it's being used by violent extremists as they beat and murder minorities. Have fun with your "educational" website. It's not going to survive if you don't do your job. @AndrewGarrison

@Tetrodotoxin Yes, maybe that's true, but I'm inclined to believe it's simply symbolism in this case. We can't just remove someone's profile picture because someone thinks it's hate speech. Again, we spoke to the person the profile picture belongs to, and another person for good measure. Neither have any reason to lie about it.

@SupremeDorian in post-Soviet territory, most skinheads are Nazis, and some are proud that their ancestors served in the SS. I know a person who uses this avatar and he is not a Nazi, but I'm just saying that this is really subjective and you probably should talk with anyone who uses swastikas or that kind of symbols.

@geek1love Through research, discussions amongst ourselves, and speaking with the involved party, we have determined that, while not unfounded, your assessment about this user's profile picture is incorrect. The user in question is from Russia, and the stuff in their profile picture is all Slavic symbology. We spoke to the user and they confirmed this, as well as the fact the text in the profile picture is also Slavic symbolism. A trusted Russian user we talked to gave us confirmation regarding that as well.
The outline of a man, with a look resembling a "skinhead" with a knife, is based on a photo of them and has nothing to do with neo-nazism, as far as we can tell.

In the future, if you have such concerns, please take them to a moderator in private, either by tagging one of us on an unlisted post, or, preferably, sending a direct message on Discord (you can find mine in my bio) instead of making a public forum post about it. As for the rest of the commenters here, I expect you all to conduct yourselves respectfully from here on out, as you have failed to do thus far.

@geek1love That's not to say they won't do anything about it. Seems weird to assume they'd educate themselves on a niche subject like alt-right symbols on the slim chance someone uses it on the site. I can confirm they've looked into it since it's been brought up.

You mean this user?

Quick! You may need some armour to shield yourself from the sheer number of "opinions". Be careful

mald

@geek1love i dont think andrew is on this, if it were a moderator or curator he would have been involved though. anyay, none of us really know who you are talking about, nobody on the first few pages is using neo-nazi symbols in their PFP. please tell me who this user is, as i appear to be too blind to see who it is. are you talking about xSUPERTTx?

@geek1love also if you’re gonna make a fictional plane and set it in WWII Germany like a fictional tank (RussianAce does this) it’s fine they’re not getting around with a loophole to try and promote Nazism

Oh my god are you talking about xSUPERTTx that’s literally a Kolovrat, the Slavic symbol for the sun you absolute donut

“Uh hello 911 can you put me in touch with your best fire fighter there is a bad man on the internet with Nazi symbols pls help yes you heard me fire fighter we need big hose to shoot bad man with Slav symbol that is DEFINITELY NAZI where is my location? SimplePlanes dot com he is here come quick”

@Mostly If your moderators are unequipped to do the job, are they moderators? That doesn't mean they aren't doing their best, but maybe a little tiny itty bitty bit of info would go a long way here.

@V It's good to hear Andrew is on board. That's a good start.

@SixteenCelsius It's a double swastika used by Nazis today. Not religious groups, regular Indian people everyday, and hippies. Absurd.

@VRCollective No. But close, I suppose.

@X99STRIKER Do you get from any of what I've written that I can't read?

I guess this is about what should be expected these days -- jokes, deflections, statements of innocence (along with the desire to leave it alone out of complicity or ignorance, @ArkRoyalTheDDhunter, which isn't how hate speech works, my dude). For everyone not apologizing for Nazis, read what I wrote above again, with a dictionary, and try again. I'll give the particularly slow a head start: it isn't a gravitar, isn't on a plane, and "top user" doesn't mean on the first page. It's not a swastika from the WWII Nazi era, it's a modern form used on the battle flags and uniforms of fascists militias operating TODAY. It's more what the person in the image is doing that pulls it all together and makes it obviously violent. The runic symbols (fascist iconography), symbols associated with various skinhead factions, and the knife being held by a skinhead. The fact that I even need to write any of this... is unfortunate. Nazis and their trash don't belong on a site that purports itself to be educational unless this is the kind of education we're talking about. The rules agree with me.

And while we're on the topic, while REPLICAS are allowed to have swastikas, let's think critically for a second: this does not mean that you can get around the rules by building a plane that's a fictional "WWII" plane and then happily slap a swastika on it for some of that authentic scumbag flavor. That would be a loophole allowing anyone to declare their plane "WWII"-era and skirt the rules. I've seen at least a few of those. If a kid doesn't understand the nuance here, that's understandable. But in my opinion it's something the mods have to be on the lookout for if this site is marketed at all towards young people.

Oh and I did call the Fire Department. They always have the best BBQ.

@asteroidbook345 This is a matter we're dealing with internally.

Wait it’s not gravatar what is it

@SupremeDorian spiritusraptor’s pfp is auto generated since gravatar stopped assigning their logo to people who have gravatar but haven’t assigned a picture yet

Dllama4chan

not sure who your talking about. andrew would have already raptured the culprit

@asteroidbook345 No, it is not an auto-generated Gravatar image.