Understood. I've mounted rotors on top of COM (easy) and I get a good temporary ground hover, that's all some folks seek. To simulate tilting the helos forward, with working swash plates, I inch the COM forward a bit. After liftoff the rotors are flattened by VTOL adjustment and the contraption almost acts like a winged plane. BTW if gear is left extended, flight behavior gets erratic. @WWIIPlaneBuilder
Correct. I have yet to find an SP STOL/VTOL that doesn't require constant pilot input. Neither helos nor the Osprey attempts are as user-friendly as a simple Cessna. @WWIIPlaneBuilder @Lucky13
Been there done that, have done both rotor-blade tilted powered helicopters and the usual nozzle downwash-lift powered things. IMHO helicopters are not popular on SP, and there is really no built-in technical support for standard swash plate helicopter models. Users get all their "ratings" based upon on what looks "pretty" - non flying designer blobs.
@Clawsome feel free to run this one through your tests, Sudden Death remains intact with 50% fuel on board at 100,000 feet and 3,300+ mph. Enjoy testing!
@Clawsome I'm submitting my latest, plane "Sudden Death". It will successfully perform a full loop after gear-up off the ground, it will loop in moderate altitudes, the plane holds together at 3,000-3,700 mph speeds at 100,000+ feet. Regular wheeled launch, of course.
@zing2000 Apparently there is an OSX version, per Andrew Garrison on reddit. Maybe I can get it to work; in any case I can checkout my SimplePlanes xml files - future plan. The Ikran looks great!
Unless SP has beta for IOS or OSX, it appears I'm limited in how far I can mod or hack parts. Should I contact SP about their plans? Thx. @WalrusAircraft
This looks just like a 737 Bomber I also saw posted - so I guess you'll get bonus points for my rating, unless you request I not rate this one. @WalrusAircraft
@hypnotoad For something new, try a water launch and check out the missile accuracy of my new USS Minnow. Android-built it runs on my tablet yet SP will only allow a download to a desktop computer, good luck!
glad you liked @hypnotoad This is the only delta I've done that holds together easily at Mach 3+ (notice most of it is structural wing, not conventional tails/wings). Deltas are tricky, yes!
I like the looks! But, it's wing structure is load-bearing in-air only. The VTOL engine must be mid-plane. Maybe someone else can put this project on a runway, I hope!
Thx @jacobhardy64 This model actually is the most user-friendly Spruce Goose I've created so far, I hope others like it. The wings t-tail and floats are a real pain to get balanced correctly.
Forgot if I entered anything,,cannot use or submit a beta version @TheDocHoliday
User friendly is subjective; ever succeed in flying a new Osprey design - I have other designs, want me to repost them? @Lucky13
Understood. I've mounted rotors on top of COM (easy) and I get a good temporary ground hover, that's all some folks seek. To simulate tilting the helos forward, with working swash plates, I inch the COM forward a bit. After liftoff the rotors are flattened by VTOL adjustment and the contraption almost acts like a winged plane. BTW if gear is left extended, flight behavior gets erratic. @WWIIPlaneBuilder
Well done, a pleasure to test!
Correct. I have yet to find an SP STOL/VTOL that doesn't require constant pilot input. Neither helos nor the Osprey attempts are as user-friendly as a simple Cessna. @WWIIPlaneBuilder @Lucky13
To draw attention to your challenge.
@Zing2000 here's the bird I made today on iPad.
@Lucky13 here's my helicopter chalenge entry.
Been there done that, have done both rotor-blade tilted powered helicopters and the usual nozzle downwash-lift powered things. IMHO helicopters are not popular on SP, and there is really no built-in technical support for standard swash plate helicopter models. Users get all their "ratings" based upon on what looks "pretty" - non flying designer blobs.
Thank you @hypnotoad
@hypnotoad Hi: your designs use similar thrust and fuel, my wings on this were meant to push the envelope, so what do you think?
Also, to clarify, the lower dihedral on wings always causes handling instability, but you balanced this one well. @JShay
Thx for the rating @Clawsome
Well mannered even with those wings, a beauty!
@Clawsome feel free to run this one through your tests, Sudden Death remains intact with 50% fuel on board at 100,000 feet and 3,300+ mph. Enjoy testing!
@Clawsome I'm submitting my latest, plane "Sudden Death". It will successfully perform a full loop after gear-up off the ground, it will loop in moderate altitudes, the plane holds together at 3,000-3,700 mph speeds at 100,000+ feet. Regular wheeled launch, of course.
Great open idea!
Great low-altitude (low speed) maneuverabilty, good top speeds for a set of modded engines!
Thx @Nick161999
@intended I managed to implement 3 sets of missile salvos on USS Minnow Mk I, but you got to use a Mac or PC to download it.
Nice!
Thx @rattle13
@zing2000 Apparently there is an OSX version, per Andrew Garrison on reddit. Maybe I can get it to work; in any case I can checkout my SimplePlanes xml files - future plan. The Ikran looks great!
Unless SP has beta for IOS or OSX, it appears I'm limited in how far I can mod or hack parts. Should I contact SP about their plans? Thx. @WalrusAircraft
Thx ! Save and rate later , 100 points comes quickly, just post some good items! @WHOLIKEMINECRAFFF
This looks just like a 737 Bomber I also saw posted - so I guess you'll get bonus points for my rating, unless you request I not rate this one. @WalrusAircraft
@hypnotoad For something new, try a water launch and check out the missile accuracy of my new USS Minnow. Android-built it runs on my tablet yet SP will only allow a download to a desktop computer, good luck!
Simple effective design!
Looks great, handles quite well!
A simple triplane beauty, does at least 170 mph!
Advanced construction, good handling!
Easy maneuvering, lands normally!
Thx @davieon330
Like simplicity and use of non-modded parts. I've done a non-moded competitor to this, the Lockheed A-12, it's much heavier and faster.
The engine arrangement follows the GD B58 Hustler, but the wing is custom-built for the speeds this model reaches. Thx @Jettison
glad you liked @hypnotoad This is the only delta I've done that holds together easily at Mach 3+ (notice most of it is structural wing, not conventional tails/wings). Deltas are tricky, yes!
Thx @guppy11702 Only thrust and stick control are required. The pure delta wing was tricky to build, but represents technology of that era.
@T3485 An improved "Mobile Friendly Spruce Goose" was posted last night. I can fly it on my Android and also iPhone.
@planesnthings Added flotation, added a small boost in thrust, changed pontoon shape, tweaked wings + tail.
Thx @JShay
Thx @planesnthings
I like the looks! But, it's wing structure is load-bearing in-air only. The VTOL engine must be mid-plane. Maybe someone else can put this project on a runway, I hope!
Great stability with mod engines. A gem!
I added more intakes, the speed doubles, but what's the point? A tanker speedboat? I like the simplicity here.
Well balanced, easy cruising the sea!
Very nice of you, the big Turbofan and propeller are new, I hope they catch on with other SP user's!
Thx @jacobhardy64 This model actually is the most user-friendly Spruce Goose I've created so far, I hope others like it. The wings t-tail and floats are a real pain to get balanced correctly.
Would you accept Android-based Non-BETA models? That's the best I could provide. (Also, per @Wakescar comment I don't want a 5 star design downrated.)
Thx @hypnotoad
@wakescar thanks. Yes, nosecones are for appearance, which is still required on most jet models.