@WaspWaspWasp Some people like NASCAR-type cars, others like sleek, understated black/dark grey cars. Some people love rainbow colors, others like blacks and greys. Generally, blacks and greys are associated with good taste. Think of good suits, high-class cars, etc.
@18039167610 First, you need to upload the image somewhere and get its URL that looks like this: https://website.com/image.jpg -- note that it needs to have the image extension (jpg, png, or gif) at the end.
@EternalDarkness The best thing would be for someone to take the lessons learned from SP and build a new game without any of the drawbacks, and a bunch of improvements.
Thanks, @Freerider2142. That's the great thing about SP to me, that you're not bound by the limitations of real life. SR-71 that flies like a stunt plane? Check. X-15 with 40 missiles? Check...
@F104Deathtrap I didn't like Disney movies even as a kid, so I'll skip this one then. I did look up images of the spaceship, and yeah, there's definitely a resemblance.
@Strikefighter04 Yeah, one of the few good things about online communication is that you can block annoying people easily. In real life, it's all too easy to turn away good people by mistake, but the annoying ones... they take a lot of effort to convince them that no, you really do not want anything to do with them. I've been trying to do that with some people for the last ten years. Still trying.
He who knows he is deep, strives for clarity; he who would like to appear deep, strives for obscurity. For the masses consider anything deep if they cannot see to the bottom.
@RailfanEthan If you carry on like this, you're going to end up as a bean-related superhero. Beanerman, Superbean, something like that. "After ingesting a radioactive bean, RailfanEthan acquired beany superpowers..."
@Tully2001 Well, maybe that's how you're reading it, but I can explicitly tell you I was explicitly not asking for upvotes. I was just asking him why he wouldn't upvote something if he thinks it's "amazing," that's all. Try not to read something into my comments that isn't there.
@Jetpackturtle I'm fine with criticism, just not from stupid people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Anyone who thinks that putting together blocks one by one by hand is somehow noble and doing it using scripts is cheating is someone whose intellect I hold in no regard at all, and whose opinion is therefore worthless to me. Let me make a meme of it for you:
Designs toy airplanes using software
Calls another user a cheater for designing toy airplanes using different software
As for effort, only an idiot thinks that effort of the mind is inferior to effort of the body. Every single person who criticizes me for using scripts depends on the product of human minds every day. Everything from agriculture to manufacturing to utilities to cars to houses to space rockets -- and, yes, airplanes -- is built on mind-work. If you don't believe that, go get stranded in the middle of nowhere with no civilization and see how far you get with your noble manual labour.
Let's be honest, this is all about jealousy. These people are jealous that I'm able to build beautiful, detailed, smooth aircraft in minutes or hours when they couldn't achieve anything even close in days or weeks of labour. That's all there is to it.
@Mustang51 Well, consider how long builds "live" in SP even now. Most builds never make the front page, and drop off the Hottest page in hours (if they ever make it there in the first place). Even the ones that do make the all-time-highest-rated pages stop getting downloads and upvotes after a few weeks at most. So I don't think throwing away all the existing builds will really matter. Some long-term users will complain, sure, but there will be enough new users to make that not matter.
The trouble with the game is that SP's revenue model gives Jundroo no incentive to value long-term players. Jundroo only gets money once, when a user purchases a game. So they have to cater to new players, which is why they changed their ranking algorithm (several times, I think) to demote high-ranking builds off the Hottest pages more and more quickly -- new users were complaining about not being able to be seen at all.
From a revenue perspective, the best thing for Jundroo would be if new players constantly sign up, it doesn't matter how long they stay. A long-term user keeps costing them server time and bandwidth, but they don't get any money for it. To me, this is an obviously broken model. For a game to survive, it needs to bring in a steady stream of money.
Personally, I'd be happy with a monthly or yearly subscription, but I'm sure that would raise howls of protest from most players. And the game would have to offer much more playability than it does now, to justify the subscription model. I don't think Jundroo have the resources to make that happen. I'm actually surprised SP has lasted this long with the paltry amount of users they have.
@Mustang51 On a desktop, you could simply implement NURBS modelling, which is much better than polygonal meshes for creating smooth shapes -- you just draw curves using splines, and the computer fills them in. You could create literally any shape.
Phones are fine, but they're limited in how much you can create with them. NURBS modeling would probably be impossible on a phone -- you don't have fine enough control, or a large enough screen.
If not NURBS, then at the very least, you should be able to define an arbitrary cross-section for a fuselage (or wing), then extrude it, taper it, blend it into another cross-section, and so on.
As for fuselage shape creating lift and drag, I'm in two minds about that. If that were implemented, it would restrict the game to serious and skilled builders who understand aerodynamics, and it would also prevent making unrealistic shapes like sci-fi builds. Perhaps it could be a per-build setting, for the best of both worlds.
@FinalGambit that doesn't bother me at all, in fact i quite enjoy it, because that's how little people express their resentment of their betters. If the small-minded aren't mocking you, you're not doing anything worth noticing.
@Kerbango Fair enough.
+1@Kerbango Thanks. How about a juicy steak?
+1Thanks, @Treadmill103. Yeah, the original was looking a little anaemic. More engine and more gun will improve anything...
+1@WaspWaspWasp Some people like NASCAR-type cars, others like sleek, understated black/dark grey cars. Some people love rainbow colors, others like blacks and greys. Generally, blacks and greys are associated with good taste. Think of good suits, high-class cars, etc.
+1You're welcome, @Pianoman
+1Thanks, @ChallengerHellcat
+1Here you go, I made one for you. Just copy and paste:
+1Outstanding. You should really include a GIF of the transformation.
+1@18039167610 First, you need to upload the image somewhere and get its URL that looks like this: https://website.com/image.jpg -- note that it needs to have the image extension (jpg, png, or gif) at the end.
Then, use this code:
+1@TimeTraveler No worries, I know that feeling.
+1@TimeTraveler like a potato famine?
+1@123Planebuilder Well, check out my other weapon systems if you haven't already. There's a bunch of links in my profile.
+1@Strikefighter04 thanks!
+1@Mostly I like my birds with big... engines.
+1Thanks, @CRJ900Pilot
+1@EternalDarkness The best thing would be for someone to take the lessons learned from SP and build a new game without any of the drawbacks, and a bunch of improvements.
+1@EliteArsenals24 Here you go.
+1Thanks, @Freerider2142. That's the great thing about SP to me, that you're not bound by the limitations of real life. SR-71 that flies like a stunt plane? Check. X-15 with 40 missiles? Check...
+1Thanks, @ThomasRoderick. i designed it as an annular wing, but you can think of it as an Alcubierre drive if you like.
+1@F104Deathtrap But didn't you know that all that evilution stuff is a bunch of atheistic lies, we were intelligently de-signed. (joke)
+1@F104Deathtrap I didn't like Disney movies even as a kid, so I'll skip this one then. I did look up images of the spaceship, and yeah, there's definitely a resemblance.
+1@F104Deathtrap Haven't seen the movie, but someone else also mentioned the resemblance. I might have to check it out.
+1@Pianoman Sure thing, it's a nice build.
+1@Vayloz glad you like it
+1Thanks, @sexylips35
+1@ThomasRoderick That's pretty much what it is. Arbitrary aesthetics, impeccable performance.
+1@BigDoggo Err, ok, whatever that means.
+1@CenturiVonKikie Isn't this the opposite? If this took the area rule seriously, it'd have a wasp-waist instead of the fat midsection.
+1Thanks, @Alpha029. Even I'm not sure what it is...
+1@TMach5 Yeah, poor guy. A lot of his philosophy was shaped by the consequences of that one youthful mistake.
+1Glad you think so, @Awsomur
+1@TMach5 Relevant quotes and misquotes:
+1@Strikefighter04 Yeah, one of the few good things about online communication is that you can block annoying people easily. In real life, it's all too easy to turn away good people by mistake, but the annoying ones... they take a lot of effort to convince them that no, you really do not want anything to do with them. I've been trying to do that with some people for the last ten years. Still trying.
+1@BaconRoll Relevant Nietzsche quote:
+1@FastDan Yeah, it's been my thing since I started.
+1
+1Beanland mine @RailfanEthan
+1@RailfanEthan If you carry on like this, you're going to end up as a bean-related superhero. Beanerman, Superbean, something like that. "After ingesting a radioactive bean, RailfanEthan acquired beany superpowers..."
+1Unique and hilarious. Nice work.
+1@Tully2001 Well, maybe that's how you're reading it, but I can explicitly tell you I was explicitly not asking for upvotes. I was just asking him why he wouldn't upvote something if he thinks it's "amazing," that's all. Try not to read something into my comments that isn't there.
+1@ChristianFennell Ahh, just don't engage. Life's too short.
+1@Jetpackturtle I'm fine with criticism, just not from stupid people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Anyone who thinks that putting together blocks one by one by hand is somehow noble and doing it using scripts is cheating is someone whose intellect I hold in no regard at all, and whose opinion is therefore worthless to me. Let me make a meme of it for you:
As for effort, only an idiot thinks that effort of the mind is inferior to effort of the body. Every single person who criticizes me for using scripts depends on the product of human minds every day. Everything from agriculture to manufacturing to utilities to cars to houses to space rockets -- and, yes, airplanes -- is built on mind-work. If you don't believe that, go get stranded in the middle of nowhere with no civilization and see how far you get with your noble manual labour.
Let's be honest, this is all about jealousy. These people are jealous that I'm able to build beautiful, detailed, smooth aircraft in minutes or hours when they couldn't achieve anything even close in days or weeks of labour. That's all there is to it.
+1@Mustang51 Well, consider how long builds "live" in SP even now. Most builds never make the front page, and drop off the Hottest page in hours (if they ever make it there in the first place). Even the ones that do make the all-time-highest-rated pages stop getting downloads and upvotes after a few weeks at most. So I don't think throwing away all the existing builds will really matter. Some long-term users will complain, sure, but there will be enough new users to make that not matter.
The trouble with the game is that SP's revenue model gives Jundroo no incentive to value long-term players. Jundroo only gets money once, when a user purchases a game. So they have to cater to new players, which is why they changed their ranking algorithm (several times, I think) to demote high-ranking builds off the Hottest pages more and more quickly -- new users were complaining about not being able to be seen at all.
From a revenue perspective, the best thing for Jundroo would be if new players constantly sign up, it doesn't matter how long they stay. A long-term user keeps costing them server time and bandwidth, but they don't get any money for it. To me, this is an obviously broken model. For a game to survive, it needs to bring in a steady stream of money.
Personally, I'd be happy with a monthly or yearly subscription, but I'm sure that would raise howls of protest from most players. And the game would have to offer much more playability than it does now, to justify the subscription model. I don't think Jundroo have the resources to make that happen. I'm actually surprised SP has lasted this long with the paltry amount of users they have.
+1@Mustang51 On a desktop, you could simply implement NURBS modelling, which is much better than polygonal meshes for creating smooth shapes -- you just draw curves using splines, and the computer fills them in. You could create literally any shape.
Phones are fine, but they're limited in how much you can create with them. NURBS modeling would probably be impossible on a phone -- you don't have fine enough control, or a large enough screen.
If not NURBS, then at the very least, you should be able to define an arbitrary cross-section for a fuselage (or wing), then extrude it, taper it, blend it into another cross-section, and so on.
As for fuselage shape creating lift and drag, I'm in two minds about that. If that were implemented, it would restrict the game to serious and skilled builders who understand aerodynamics, and it would also prevent making unrealistic shapes like sci-fi builds. Perhaps it could be a per-build setting, for the best of both worlds.
+1@FinalGambit2 Shoo.
+1@FinalGambit Come off it, Darth. Your final gambit has failed.
+1@FinalGambit that doesn't bother me at all, in fact i quite enjoy it, because that's how little people express their resentment of their betters. If the small-minded aren't mocking you, you're not doing anything worth noticing.
+1@Mustang51 Yeah, I feel your iOS pain.
+1Thanks, @Mustang51 @Aeroman77
+1Nice build, but when you have a bright colour like red you need another color, like white, to set it off.
+1