@SledDriver this everplay thing was named in apost by one of the devs. so here is the light bulb fact: during the time of the weimarer republic a group of german lightbulb manufacturers had a meeting to create a maximum lifespan for lightbulbs (the incondessent lightbulb has a lifespan that can be controled by the thickness and material of the fillament inside) and set this to 1000 hours. the trust was disolved only one year later but some lazy bones were simply to lazy and adopted it as a standard. some conspiracys got their real speed from idiots.

@Irobert55 Yes, I have lots of builds with the guns aligned with the cockpit and roll axis. No idea what everplay is. Didn't know that about lightbulbs, either.

@SledDriver idea for you: build a plane with the gusn next to the kockpit (it gives the best accuracy when the rolling axis and the guns are at the same plane with the kockpit).

@SledDriver did you get what everplay is? i dont know what they are or are they the servers for the multiplayer mod?

@SledDriver did you get what everplay is? i dont know what they are or are they the servers for the multiplayer mod?

@SledDriver but i am dont capable of building it. the closest thing is my birdsey mod of the zebra drohne (that thing is hard to kill because it has pinpoint accuracy). did you know that the lifetime of lightbulbs was a mixture of a trust and laziness?

@Irobert55 Sure, I don't see why not. And you can control the point where the beams meet by changing the angle of the guns...

@SledDriver small question: did you think that is is possible to build a composite beam in sp? ok not two diferent colored beams but two or more beams meeting at the point of earliest contact (its around 1.6 miles in front of the plane).

and yes i know that this is more the result of a pissing kontest in the industrie but he could try to push for a standard that would speed up things. also i am not sure if the mega factory is a good idea when you compare it with other industries in the vehicle sektor. but thats only some small thought.

@SledDriver i noticed something about musk that he does totaly wrong: he is the biggest electric car manufacturer at the moment but he does nothing to change the market. what is the biggest problem at the moment? charging times. whats the easiest way to deal with them? build the cars with easy changeable batterie packs and set the whole recharging network up in such a way that this batterie swap cuold be done when needed. rent out the batteries and give out the patent to every one to use. fun fact: it works look falter e-bikes from switzeland does this akku swaping thing.

@Irobert55 Sorry, you're just not making much sense at this point.

@SledDriver trump cuts nasas funding. thats a great oportunity. and throwing stuff and look if it stick is the best metaphore for sciene that exists. normaly people think that eureka means scitific discovery but in reality the marker for some thing that could be great if done better is hum thats strange. best example: unboiling eggs (thats possible and it was done they get the ig nobel prize for it).

@Irobert55 Luck can account for one success, not for a string of successes. As for throwing every idea at the ceiling to see what sticks, I don't see what's wrong with that. Who will win the race to Mars? I don't really care, as long as someone does.

Edison was a nasty person, I already acknowledged that, but I don't see what that has to do with Musk. Musk doesn't "take money for everything" -- he open sourced his electric car patents, for one thing. "Musk hired the engineers from other groups" -- this is a problem how? "Trump exists" -- SpaceX has been around long before Trump. I didn't say every idea of Musk's is brilliant, I said he executes ideas brilliantly.

You're not really responding to my points -- you just keep throwing new ones at the wall to see what'll stick.

@SledDriver and to musk himself: yes i sayd he has a lot of luck because of some idiots in the us government that screw down nasas funding so much that it was easier for him to get the rocket builder from them. but on the perosnality level i think he is the sort of guy wo talks every idea he wants to do and then trows something to the ceiling on looks if it sticks. great for research but the rest will be shown by time. who will win the race to mars? musk or bezoss (bezoss operates like nasa so he even puts turtles on the logo of his space company musk has a head start but he will lose momentum and thats the moment when every thing could change. moon race the soviets hat the total headstart but overengineered their rocket).

@SledDriver as an answer. edison killed someone with x-rays because he thought that roentgen was stupid because he could have made a ton of money but only wanted the best for humanity. and the three point seat belt is a patent by volvo but they give the right to use to every car manufacturer for free. the model to take money for every thing has one weakness: it looks dirt cheap when in the long run someone discovers that your entire work is stolen. musk hired the ingenieurs for spacex from other groups but his strenght is that trump exists (or the republican party of today) because he (trump) and a lot of likeminded individuals have the tendency to cripple founds for research and thats the thing of nasa. or with other words: he (musk) has at least a good portion of luck. but i wouldnt say that every idea of him is absolutely brilliant (boring company reinventing the subway by adding more lifts and more cars. sound great but it it isnt realy. but it gets beaten by solar roadways realy the chinese road closed becaus of theft? nope the panels broke down in only a week).

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You say his ideas are rewarmed. Even if that were true, having an idea is only the first and the easiest step, and in itself, has no value -- it's just a notion in someone's head, or on a piece of paper, or a computer file. It's developing that idea into something real that matters. If someone comes up with controlled nuclear fusion or cheap interstellar travel, it won't do anyone any good if that person keeps it to themselves and the secret dies with them. Bringing an idea to fruition is where the hard work lies, and Musk has done that with many ideas, over and over, brilliantly.

What other people don't even dare to dream, he makes real. Most, if not all the criticism I hear about him has a whiny, sneering, jealous quality -- little man's envy -- and much of it is plain old lies, like "no beeping forklifts." I admire him, and wish him all the best.

@Irobert55 Re: Edison being the "better person," you're misquoting/misunderstanding him: he said that what Edison did was better (for him and for all of humanity) because he brought his inventions to market. Tesla was definitely the greater genius, but his inventions died with him.

You say "[wanting money for his inventions is] wrong on so many levels." I disagree with that, vehemently. Money is what makes the world go around. Criticizing someone for wanting money is like criticizing a lion for wanting meat, or a deer for wanting grass, or any animal at all for wanting oxygen. Going beyond the individual motive, if a product doesn't make money, it's not going to survive, it's as simple as that. Profits are to business as blood is to a person. So yes, Edison may have been a nasty individual, but ultimately his way was better.

I don't see how wanting money leads to deaths, but speaking of deaths, Musk's stated motives are to save not just individual human lives, but human civilization. While most people don't think beyond their own wealth and well-being, he's thinking about making sure humanity survives in case a catastrophe befalls it. And meanwhile, he's also saving individual human lives with Tesla's autopilot feature and structural safety. (Yes, a few people have died, but many more accidents have been averted, and when accidents do happen involving a Tesla, they're far more survivable for the people in the Tesla than any other car.)

Re: business ability, Elon Musk founded zip2, then x.com, which became PayPal. He made millions from selling those two hugely successful businesses, and either one of those is enough to put him above 99.999% of humanity in terms of achievement.

After making that much money at an early age, he could've retired to the high life, but he didn't do that. He chose to develop the world's first viable (and cool) electric car, and he also made it the world's safest car and the consumer car with the highest acceleration performance in the world, second only to supercars. He also decided to make space rockets and has been hugely successful at that as well. Not making a profit? Neither did Amazon.com for many years.

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@SledDriver another posibility: his mother trained him to be a busines man but what if he isnt that type he was raised to but only your typical super nerd? would explain why most of his ideas are rewarmed and most of his followers are nerds themselves with specialists on the other side. it would at least explain why his business ventures arent profitable at all but still super sounding. like his boring company that only has two plans: make the worlds most useless subway and build a tunnel drill that is comicaly small.

@SledDriver he still thinks that edison is the better perosn because he wanted money for his inventions. and thats wrong on so many levels (because it leads to deaths. realy the best three inventions i can think of are the seatbelt, x-rays and ac current. all three are partialy public domain or patented only to prevent edisonism. fun fact: every thing that goes into his hyperloop test track is from spacex).

@Irobert55 Musk open-sourced his electric car patents. That doesn't sound very Edison-like. Regarding the forklift beeping thing, it seems you're reading fake news put out by the Musk haters. Also, I've never heard him claim he invented all that. I also don't believe that developing someone else's ideas is a bad thing -- if we permitted only an idea's originator to develop it, we wouldn't have much progress at all.

@SledDriver im not anti musk btw im am anti edison if you want to make a list of the top 5 evilest guys he would be the 5th place.

@SledDriver he is nerdy but on the same time he claims to invent but only buys or reinvent what was before (vac trains, electric high speed cars and reusable long range balistic systems). he also disregards safety rules set by workers not politicians or companys (this beep things on forklifts) and makes claims that are ridiclous. so what is he? at the business level the next edison and thats super questionable.

@Irobert55 The one thing I know for sure about Elon Musk is that he broke the mould - you cannot label him that easily. Definitely one hell of a man, even if he is super nerdy.

@SledDriver but not a tank that was suposed to fly to the battle and start to fight on the ground as a vehicle. flying tanks in plane shape are called ground attack aircraft or gunship but a real flying battle tank is best called dumb (^.^)/. only a short qusetion: what does you think about elon musk savier or bond villian?

@Irobert55 That was my point, that there's a flying tank that actually works well.