@Grob0s0VBRa Np. I made an addendum at the very bottom so that people can just directly copy and paste if they must.
Bonus toward you because this looks better thank Red markups.
@11qazxc You don't need to use smooth. But even then, it's a word you have to put in. bonus points for how I don't think it even remotely counts when compared to complexity of actual PID when all it's really doing is making the input slower than it's max speed.
I should also tell that @ThomasRoderick Had a big hand in this. The Idea to have it get more limiting as speed increased was his. He did try to code it in, but he went for something that would work with real life variables, not simpleplanes. I just managed to make something that works suprisingly well with the idea. I've been trying to make it work like that, where it increases limiting factor so that the amoung of g's pulled is constantly below a hard limit throughout the flight for years now, But I didn't have that breakthrough point until Tom tried an equation, which made my mind work.
@ShinyGemsBro XD
Here I am just sending out my love to the very cool story that this plane brought. I love the design on the thing too, arctic camos never get old.
Once again, like he said, for the record, I'm not making political statements either, I just think the plane and it's story is kinda cool.
@hpgbproductions agreed. So what I'm getting here is there is some feasibility, but there's challenges. It still might necessary to use some stealth then... Unless it's a 4.5 gen.
@Noname918181818181818181 but then the F-22 doesn't commit to a second lock, it's lost its chance to finish a goal. If it's after me, it's not going to stop unless it has got me. It might defend, but it has to go offensive eventually. Having fired a missile, it gave a away a general direction, which is enough to start an engagement within visual range, provided your radar works.
@Noname918181818181818181 F-22, yes, but the F-35 actually does outdo the stealth of the F-22... Because... You can't hit it. F-22 itself is still, if you find it, though rare, it is dead. For an air superiority fighter, it does feel like the logical next step instead of making a more stealthy design. Once again for a bomber on interceptor, it makes sense
Again, I'm not trying to replace stealth... Therese still use cases for it, but an air superiority fighter focusing on jamming and confusing over cloaking does make more sense since the lower price.
@HuskyDynamics01 those don't matter. We're not using jamming,We're using projecting. Someone else somewhere else did point out that missiles know what the source is, though.
@Graingy
@hpgbproductions
@Noname918181818181818181
would love to hear your thoughts as well. Once again sorry for the random tagging (Mostly just tagged y'all because you all seem like people who are very smart and actually may take interest in ideas like these). Just thought there is a good argument to be made here.
@YarisSedan and also don't think some healthy caution is not a bad thing... Just don't let it get to your head, yeah? Remember that you get worried about these things in the first place TO TAKE CARE of yourself :>
@YarisSedan the fact that I didn't call you paranoid or didn't intend to suggest it does tell me that, yeah.
Once again, don't worry, if something like that does happen I'll be there to defend you.
@YarisSedan why not? It's not like there's people who wouldn't bother to see the context and call you a weirdo without any base and make it an issue, totally, thos people don't exist xD
About the kids. They are kids for a reason. Pat their head and move on... Maybe take a tiny hands punch or two.
@DrakonDynamics My only issue with this one is you're basically asking for 5-th gen. This is very hard to do if I want to do it right and realistic unless you have a some in-universe excuses to work with that can explain so realism redundancies like stealth prioritisation.
And would be nice to have insights on which country is known for what... Or if that is up to the player.
I'm personally going to try a 4.5 Gen, if it works, you'll se me submitting, if it doesn't.... too bad I'm out of the challenge without completing anything
@Noname918181818181818181 she looks cute. Also, a bit curious... How do you go about song the "text behind plane" thing?
I use remove.bg and canva. I won't reply immediately to you after posting this since I'm going to sleep now, excuse me for that, but I'll reply ASAP. Goodnight!
@Noname918181818181818181 I love plane girls.
But wait until the plane boys show up (F-22 raptor)
Would it be weird if I made anime versions of all of my planes and shipped them with each other? Idk, feels like there some actual story potential there LOL
@Solent19 Don't be. I decided to not do that party dress one I was thinking about to do as a stand in for VIP version.
Im just showing off my art at the end of the day. I'm sorry if it seems derogatory in anyway.
@kumoroha165 I'd love to help out with the flight models to make it feels atleast somewhat better than this. I'm not Guyfolk, but just might be able to slap on some PitchRate and GForce limitors on this thing. I'm also patient enough to make a decent looking cockpit interior so let me know if you have any future projects you're working on that has those requirements because I quite enjoy making cockpits!
@YarisSedan yeah but these aren't issues, they are improvements xD
Point being I want to keep the completed post itself and the stuff that came as a result of the completed post separate to show that I'm willing to work and improve even after thinking I've already done my best (which I don't upload unless I've done my best)
@Noname918181818181818181 it's a common theme with me. I want to force wierd designs but make them work in IRL ways. It's unfortunately why Thomas has his work cut out disciplining me 💀
But thank you!
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for only the original one to have the stepped aft. It was a cheap plane, but a nice one. I guess that could be the design trademark for the alper, because even with the changes I made to the updated one after taking criticism on this still has a bit of an odd stepped rear.
Good stuff. Well made... I do feel like the P/W should be closer to 0.8, but a it's only a bit of a nitpick
@Rb2h Sorry for the late reply, I was having a bit of a moment IRL.
@Overlord nice to see you here. This was one of the first few attempts at making that new code.
firin then bloody freedom eagles HECKKKKK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH
@Grob0s0VBRa Np. I made an addendum at the very bottom so that people can just directly copy and paste if they must.
Bonus toward you because this looks better thank Red markups.
@Grob0s0VBRa how'd you... Because look above, its still ";<" when I try do it. annoying.
@11qazxc You don't need to use smooth. But even then, it's a word you have to put in. bonus points for how I don't think it even remotely counts when compared to complexity of actual PID when all it's really doing is making the input slower than it's max speed.
I should also tell that @ThomasRoderick Had a big hand in this. The Idea to have it get more limiting as speed increased was his. He did try to code it in, but he went for something that would work with real life variables, not simpleplanes. I just managed to make something that works suprisingly well with the idea. I've been trying to make it work like that, where it increases limiting factor so that the amoung of g's pulled is constantly below a hard limit throughout the flight for years now, But I didn't have that breakthrough point until Tom tried an equation, which made my mind work.
@hpgbproductions agreed
And yes. Once it's within range of hardkill, I don't think there is any point trying to Jam it anyway.
@ShinyGemsBro XD
Here I am just sending out my love to the very cool story that this plane brought. I love the design on the thing too, arctic camos never get old.
Once again, like he said, for the record, I'm not making political statements either, I just think the plane and it's story is kinda cool.
@Mahadi
Well, hello there... Fancy seeing you here. Hope you're doing well
@hpgbproductions agreed. So what I'm getting here is there is some feasibility, but there's challenges. It still might necessary to use some stealth then... Unless it's a 4.5 gen.
@Noname918181818181818181 but then the F-22 doesn't commit to a second lock, it's lost its chance to finish a goal. If it's after me, it's not going to stop unless it has got me. It might defend, but it has to go offensive eventually. Having fired a missile, it gave a away a general direction, which is enough to start an engagement within visual range, provided your radar works.
@Noname918181818181818181 F-22, yes, but the F-35 actually does outdo the stealth of the F-22... Because... You can't hit it. F-22 itself is still, if you find it, though rare, it is dead. For an air superiority fighter, it does feel like the logical next step instead of making a more stealthy design. Once again for a bomber on interceptor, it makes sense
Again, I'm not trying to replace stealth... Therese still use cases for it, but an air superiority fighter focusing on jamming and confusing over cloaking does make more sense since the lower price.
@Noname918181818181818181 yeah. it's like a step above blowing millions on a saturated field, i.e, stealth
@hpgbproductions yeah, but flares and decoys already exist to counter honing meseeles
@hpgbproductions that's a pretty fair point as well.
But the honing missiles are still going to get confused by amplified waves anyway.
@HuskyDynamics01 those don't matter. We're not using jamming,We're using projecting. Someone else somewhere else did point out that missiles know what the source is, though.
Anyone Else's thoughts would also be nice to hear.
@Graingy
@hpgbproductions
@Noname918181818181818181
would love to hear your thoughts as well. Once again sorry for the random tagging (Mostly just tagged y'all because you all seem like people who are very smart and actually may take interest in ideas like these). Just thought there is a good argument to be made here.
@Boeing727200F okay. I won't forget this time...
(If I release it)
@YarisSedan and also don't think some healthy caution is not a bad thing... Just don't let it get to your head, yeah? Remember that you get worried about these things in the first place TO TAKE CARE of yourself :>
@YarisSedan the fact that I didn't call you paranoid or didn't intend to suggest it does tell me that, yeah.
Once again, don't worry, if something like that does happen I'll be there to defend you.
Besides, I'm probably more weird than you
@YarisSedan yeah dw about it I understand.
I'll refrain from teasing you here
If you got discord though...
@YarisSedan is that a bad thing though xD
But yeah I'll stop dw. See the comments below again.
@YarisSedan why not? It's not like there's people who wouldn't bother to see the context and call you a weirdo without any base and make it an issue, totally, thos people don't exist xD
About the kids. They are kids for a reason. Pat their head and move on... Maybe take a tiny hands punch or two.
@YarisSedan why? And also, noone will ever know what I shouldn't say publicly
@YarisSedan With the way we have it here, it would actually be a practical bus, unironically
@kumoroha165 oki doki. Nice build either way! love the amount of work put into this
@DrakonDynamics
Thoughts?
@DrakonDynamics My only issue with this one is you're basically asking for 5-th gen. This is very hard to do if I want to do it right and realistic unless you have a some in-universe excuses to work with that can explain so realism redundancies like stealth prioritisation.
And would be nice to have insights on which country is known for what... Or if that is up to the player.
I'm personally going to try a 4.5 Gen, if it works, you'll se me submitting, if it doesn't.... too bad I'm out of the challenge without completing anything
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 thank you! Also, very smart way to respond 🤌
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 xD
What was your live reaction to this though?
Had anyone actually pulled this off?
@Noname918181818181818181 that's interesting, thanks for letting me know! Appreciate it.
@Noname918181818181818181 she looks cute. Also, a bit curious... How do you go about song the "text behind plane" thing?
I use remove.bg and canva. I won't reply immediately to you after posting this since I'm going to sleep now, excuse me for that, but I'll reply ASAP. Goodnight!
@Noname918181818181818181 gonna check em out rn.
Thank you for all the support, everyone!
@Noname918181818181818181 I love plane girls.
But wait until the plane boys show up (F-22 raptor)
Would it be weird if I made anime versions of all of my planes and shipped them with each other? Idk, feels like there some actual story potential there LOL
@Solent19 Don't be. I decided to not do that party dress one I was thinking about to do as a stand in for VIP version.
Im just showing off my art at the end of the day. I'm sorry if it seems derogatory in anyway.
@Solent19 it's gonna get better/worse xD
@YarisSedan
@kumoroha165 I'd love to help out with the flight models to make it feels atleast somewhat better than this. I'm not Guyfolk, but just might be able to slap on some PitchRate and GForce limitors on this thing. I'm also patient enough to make a decent looking cockpit interior so let me know if you have any future projects you're working on that has those requirements because I quite enjoy making cockpits!
@YarisSedan You have to click on the image btw, still, here it is.
The one with the non luxury stuff
@YarisSedan wait... Which one? The cabin non-luxury cabin?
@YarisSedan yeah but these aren't issues, they are improvements xD
Point being I want to keep the completed post itself and the stuff that came as a result of the completed post separate to show that I'm willing to work and improve even after thinking I've already done my best (which I don't upload unless I've done my best)
@YarisSedan I'm curious, what did you use it for?
@Noname918181818181818181 it's a common theme with me. I want to force wierd designs but make them work in IRL ways. It's unfortunately why Thomas has his work cut out disciplining me 💀
But thank you!
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for only the original one to have the stepped aft. It was a cheap plane, but a nice one. I guess that could be the design trademark for the alper, because even with the changes I made to the updated one after taking criticism on this still has a bit of an odd stepped rear.
@Pnut thank you!
@Egn02
Hey, it's me, greggory. How you doing?