I didn't mean the Navy itself. I meant the shipping fleet. We sunk 80% of it because of said tactics and the fact better ships, which would have certainly outgunned the cruiser, were needed elsewhere.
As mentioned, when our navy went up against yours in direct battle, it usually lost as it was horribly outnumbered. However, that didn't mean we weren't a threat, and ravaged your merchant fleet. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I don't think reactive armor of that scale will do any good, and may even harm the user due to the concussive blast. It only works with tanks because 1) tanks are a lot tougher than people and 2) the people inside are well-isolated from said blast, where in this case, it is literally on a body part. In addition, an explosive as shock sensitive as to be activated by bullet could mean a fall can possibly detonate the entire pack, a highly dangerous situation. @TemDesBur
Your forces have found a pretty nifty solution; a standoff plate of 5mm thickness, about 40mm from the main plate. This will cause an APLJ round to break apart, removing its AP potential. However, such an attachment is only applied from the front breastplate and helmet, and adds additional bulk and weight. To cover the torso, jointed plate armor is used, although these are somewhat fragile. In both cases, the additional armor can be torn off through close contact with trees and thick shrubbery. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's a 7.62x39mm round, which has lower energy than full-power rifle rounds such as 7.62x51mm NATO, 7.92mm Mauser, .303 British, .30-'06, 7.5mm French, 8mm Lebel, and 7.62x54R. @TemDesBur
We wear ballistic vests and helmets rated to 7.62mm NATO. However, some North African soldiers prefer to leave behind the armor for greater comfort, greater mobility, and superior stealth. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Many of them remove or leave behind the heavy armor suits because it functionally provides the same level of protection as the light armor suits.
Both the heavy and light armor suits can be penetrated by standard Paternian rifles at ranges of 300m with AP-LJ ammunition. Both are resistant to non-armor-piercing ammunition as well as artillery blast. If a light armor suit systems are disabled, the operator is still able to move, albeit with less dexterity and mobility. If a heavy armor suit is disabled, it will trap the operator, although newer suits solve this somewhat with an internal emergency manual release. That's why we rarely see them in heavy armor. More experienced units forgo it for these reasons. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
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@TemDesBur We found the average range of engagement is 300-500m. Our 5.56mm assault rifles (M18, M36) can penetrate light and medium armor suits at these ranges, and the 7.62mm battle rifles (M11, and M12) can penetrate heavy armor suits at these ranges. All said rounds use AP-LJ, or Armor-Piercing Light Jacket.
These are high-velocity rounds with a subcaliber armor-piercing core, usually steel, surrounded by a lightweight metal jacket, usually aluminum. Upon impact, the lightweight metal jacket will be sheared off, and the smaller core will continue its path. It's basically how HVAP/APCR rounds work.
Due to manufacturing and aerodynamic limitations, the smallest caliber APDS rounds we employ are .50 BMG ammunition. AP-LJ .50 caliber ammunition can penetrate heavy armor suits at ranges of 800m, and the APDS .50 caliber ammunition can penetrate heavy armor suits at ranges of 1200m. Most ammunition we employ are AP-LJ, as APDS is only 50% more effective, and is 400% more expensive, and the M28 and M38 can reliably hit man-sized targets up to ranges of 800m, as they are anti-material rifles.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Meet the M12.
M12, meet Awwami armor suits. I'd also like to introduce M81 armor-piercing light-jacket ammunition.
Well, M81 just went through the suits like it was nothing. Nice going M81.
This rifle is the reason why many of your troops forgo any armor. This rifle simply punches through the suit and then disables it. Even though the AP round is less lethal against flesh, it will hurt A LOT if you are hit anyways, and with the suit's electronics disabled due to the bullet literally going through it, the operator will certainly be trapped as all control is lost.
@PINK Interesting. We've began to issue this rifle more due to the prevalence of Awwami assault troopers. This bad boy can put one down in one shot to the chest.
You see, it will penetrate through the front plate and strike the control system in the back, severely wounding or killing the operator and disabling the suit. In the battlefield, many of these suits stand where they fell, the operator's body still trapped within.
@Mudkip The convoys were designed to protect against submarines and smaller surface raiders, as they were accompanied by cheap but effective corvettes and frigates. The close-knit nature of the ships, with the high effectiveness of said warships in a group, made a submarine or patrol boat attack on these convoys a suicidal task.
However, a division of destroyers with one of these things is a different matter entirely. The weaponry of the destroyers and the cruiser is certainly much greater than the corvettes or frigates. Their presence, alongside patrol boats and submarines, will force the convoy with two options, neither which will do any good; stick around and get gunned down by naval artillery, or disperse and avoid the cruisers, but get picked off one by one by surface raiders and submarines.
Capital ships usually had other things to do, and they had few which to spare. The old Abraham-class battleships, although slow, were well-armored and well-armed, and could challenge a cruiser in a gun battle. However, they were far and few between, and the majority of convoys faced this daunting decision once they encountered these cruisers.
Some soldiers found it enhancing, others found it limiting, they're humans.
The only soldiers which we saw that wore armor of any kind were assault troopers, who often wore the full suit, seeing that it be necessary. However, light infantry tended to wear little/no armor, as they viewed it as either useless or cowardly.
The Paternian Army employed three standard-issue rifles: the M12, the M18, and the M36.
The M12 is a 7.62mm full-power battle rifle, and with AP-LJ (Armor-Piercing Light-Jacket, works like IRL APCR) rounds, can penetrate medium armor suits at 500m light armor suits at 800m.
The M18 and M36 are 5.56mm assualt rifles, and can penetrate light armor suits at 600m and medium armor suits at 500m with AP-LJ.
Also, there are two-types of bayonet in service; the M1 Fighting Knife and the M2 Bayonet. The former is a tanto-blade knife, and the latter is a triangular spike dagger. Both designs are known for their good stabbing ability.
The average range of engagement is 400m. Given that the armor does nothing to stop them and is something extra to carry, they are often left behind.
Also, I must deduce that you are from Pakistan or India, since A) you spell armor and color with a "u", and B) when mentioning how badass Muslim soldiers are, you specifically mentioned the Pakistani Special Forces, and used terms such as "we".
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I should mention that although many of your soldiers were issued armor, they often did not wear any, since many felt that doing so shows that you're afraid of death, and that armor hinders mobility. This is also reflected in the behavior of the largely-Muslim Paternian Army of North Africa, where most soldiers forgo any ballistic armor, although they retain ballistic helmets, elbow and knee pads.
Clones? How? Like, cryogenics or something like that? @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Np! @DeathStalker627
These engines are better than yours. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
lol you can. @Squirrel
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation This is why Paternia is more advanced.
It also features better acceleration, I think. @EasternHorizon
And Arkitect I think. @Valkyrie
There was Shipwright and ChasingHorizons. @Valkyrie
Also, these are the ranges our rifles can defeat your armor WITH said enhancements. @Supermini555
Yes, but that will mean there will be additional bulk.
Can't have everything. @Supermini555
We have plenty of IFVs around.
Thanks! @Liquidfox
Yes, and yes. You're welcome. @EasternHorizon
I didn't mean the Navy itself. I meant the shipping fleet. We sunk 80% of it because of said tactics and the fact better ships, which would have certainly outgunned the cruiser, were needed elsewhere.
As mentioned, when our navy went up against yours in direct battle, it usually lost as it was horribly outnumbered. However, that didn't mean we weren't a threat, and ravaged your merchant fleet. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I thought that was illegal...
Also, what are you going to do with the clones after the war? @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
RIP. @JoddyFubuki788
I don't think reactive armor of that scale will do any good, and may even harm the user due to the concussive blast. It only works with tanks because 1) tanks are a lot tougher than people and 2) the people inside are well-isolated from said blast, where in this case, it is literally on a body part. In addition, an explosive as shock sensitive as to be activated by bullet could mean a fall can possibly detonate the entire pack, a highly dangerous situation. @TemDesBur
Your forces have found a pretty nifty solution; a standoff plate of 5mm thickness, about 40mm from the main plate. This will cause an APLJ round to break apart, removing its AP potential. However, such an attachment is only applied from the front breastplate and helmet, and adds additional bulk and weight. To cover the torso, jointed plate armor is used, although these are somewhat fragile. In both cases, the additional armor can be torn off through close contact with trees and thick shrubbery. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's a 7.62x39mm round, which has lower energy than full-power rifle rounds such as 7.62x51mm NATO, 7.92mm Mauser, .303 British, .30-'06, 7.5mm French, 8mm Lebel, and 7.62x54R. @TemDesBur
We wear ballistic vests and helmets rated to 7.62mm NATO. However, some North African soldiers prefer to leave behind the armor for greater comfort, greater mobility, and superior stealth. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Many of them remove or leave behind the heavy armor suits because it functionally provides the same level of protection as the light armor suits.
Both the heavy and light armor suits can be penetrated by standard Paternian rifles at ranges of 300m with AP-LJ ammunition. Both are resistant to non-armor-piercing ammunition as well as artillery blast. If a light armor suit systems are disabled, the operator is still able to move, albeit with less dexterity and mobility. If a heavy armor suit is disabled, it will trap the operator, although newer suits solve this somewhat with an internal emergency manual release. That's why we rarely see them in heavy armor. More experienced units forgo it for these reasons. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I told him that. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Yup. @Valkyrie
@JoddyFubuki788 That's the point.
Because not everyone can be a part of the PC master race. So by the power of Notepad++, I bring you modded, high-efficiency engines that are four times as efficient, yet just as powerful.
@TemDesBur Sure.
@TemDesBur Yes.
@TemDesBur We found the average range of engagement is 300-500m. Our 5.56mm assault rifles (M18, M36) can penetrate light and medium armor suits at these ranges, and the 7.62mm battle rifles (M11, and M12) can penetrate heavy armor suits at these ranges. All said rounds use AP-LJ, or Armor-Piercing Light Jacket.
These are high-velocity rounds with a subcaliber armor-piercing core, usually steel, surrounded by a lightweight metal jacket, usually aluminum. Upon impact, the lightweight metal jacket will be sheared off, and the smaller core will continue its path. It's basically how HVAP/APCR rounds work.
Due to manufacturing and aerodynamic limitations, the smallest caliber APDS rounds we employ are .50 BMG ammunition. AP-LJ .50 caliber ammunition can penetrate heavy armor suits at ranges of 800m, and the APDS .50 caliber ammunition can penetrate heavy armor suits at ranges of 1200m. Most ammunition we employ are AP-LJ, as APDS is only 50% more effective, and is 400% more expensive, and the M28 and M38 can reliably hit man-sized targets up to ranges of 800m, as they are anti-material rifles.
@TemDesBur Go wage your own war. We are a neutral nation. Which means we will supply you through third party arms dealers instead of directly.
@TemDesBur No need. The war's all over.
@TemDesBur A secret cuprous alloy.
@TemDesBur Nice.
@TemDesBur That's kind of powerful for a battle rifle.
@TemDesBur High-Explosive Anti-Tank, Dark Matter.
Basically a HEAT round with a dark matter explosive filler versus a TNT blend usually used.
RIP Robert @SimpleTechAndResearch
@GoldenEagle How we won the war.
@YuukaNeko My FAL. Kinda.
@PINK I see. Want some?
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Meet the M12.
M12, meet Awwami armor suits. I'd also like to introduce M81 armor-piercing light-jacket ammunition.
Well, M81 just went through the suits like it was nothing. Nice going M81.
This rifle is the reason why many of your troops forgo any armor. This rifle simply punches through the suit and then disables it. Even though the AP round is less lethal against flesh, it will hurt A LOT if you are hit anyways, and with the suit's electronics disabled due to the bullet literally going through it, the operator will certainly be trapped as all control is lost.
@PINK Interesting. We've began to issue this rifle more due to the prevalence of Awwami assault troopers. This bad boy can put one down in one shot to the chest.
You see, it will penetrate through the front plate and strike the control system in the back, severely wounding or killing the operator and disabling the suit. In the battlefield, many of these suits stand where they fell, the operator's body still trapped within.
@Mudkip We did.
So he did against us, a nerve agent to be specific.
@Mudkip He used chemical weapons on us in retaliation for Jakarta.
@Mudkip It's some Awwami battleship I just made up. And now just obligated Memeking to make because lol why not?
@Mudkip The convoys were designed to protect against submarines and smaller surface raiders, as they were accompanied by cheap but effective corvettes and frigates. The close-knit nature of the ships, with the high effectiveness of said warships in a group, made a submarine or patrol boat attack on these convoys a suicidal task.
However, a division of destroyers with one of these things is a different matter entirely. The weaponry of the destroyers and the cruiser is certainly much greater than the corvettes or frigates. Their presence, alongside patrol boats and submarines, will force the convoy with two options, neither which will do any good; stick around and get gunned down by naval artillery, or disperse and avoid the cruisers, but get picked off one by one by surface raiders and submarines.
Capital ships usually had other things to do, and they had few which to spare. The old Abraham-class battleships, although slow, were well-armored and well-armed, and could challenge a cruiser in a gun battle. However, they were far and few between, and the majority of convoys faced this daunting decision once they encountered these cruisers.
@Mudkip Last time I checked, when you stab a bayonet into a man's throat, they tend to die.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Welcome to SimplePlanes! And a beautiful first entry!
Hmm...
I see what you're missing:
Patrol aircraft
An actual navy
The ability to tow damaged tanks from the battlefield under fire.
Looks like a Bandit Cobra.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I see.
Some soldiers found it enhancing, others found it limiting, they're humans.
The only soldiers which we saw that wore armor of any kind were assault troopers, who often wore the full suit, seeing that it be necessary. However, light infantry tended to wear little/no armor, as they viewed it as either useless or cowardly.
The Paternian Army employed three standard-issue rifles: the M12, the M18, and the M36.
The M12 is a 7.62mm full-power battle rifle, and with AP-LJ (Armor-Piercing Light-Jacket, works like IRL APCR) rounds, can penetrate medium armor suits at 500m light armor suits at 800m.
The M18 and M36 are 5.56mm assualt rifles, and can penetrate light armor suits at 600m and medium armor suits at 500m with AP-LJ.
Also, there are two-types of bayonet in service; the M1 Fighting Knife and the M2 Bayonet. The former is a tanto-blade knife, and the latter is a triangular spike dagger. Both designs are known for their good stabbing ability.
The average range of engagement is 400m. Given that the armor does nothing to stop them and is something extra to carry, they are often left behind.
Also, I must deduce that you are from Pakistan or India, since A) you spell armor and color with a "u", and B) when mentioning how badass Muslim soldiers are, you specifically mentioned the Pakistani Special Forces, and used terms such as "we".
@EternalDarkness @PINK @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation The pride of our navy.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I should mention that although many of your soldiers were issued armor, they often did not wear any, since many felt that doing so shows that you're afraid of death, and that armor hinders mobility. This is also reflected in the behavior of the largely-Muslim Paternian Army of North Africa, where most soldiers forgo any ballistic armor, although they retain ballistic helmets, elbow and knee pads.