Same HP, 90mm gun with 160mm of AP, 243mm with APCR, 0.38 accuracy, 10 degrees of gun depression, 2.3 second aim time, and is quite mobile. The KV-85, although possessing 170mm of pen with AP, has 210mm of APCR, 2.8 second aim time, 3 degrees of gun depression, is a bit slower, and must live in the shadow of its former self.
Both machines have decent turret armor and terrible hull armor.
I have seen both the M6 and the T-150 serve as substitutes equally well. @VladCelTroll
Yep. Takes geography into account so as to influence force effectiveness.
For example, while our navy will have clear control over the Pacific and most of the Atlantic Ocean due to our island holdings, the Indian Ocean is virtually under your control. While you may have the GIUK (Greenland-Iceland-UK) corridor which to funnel supplies through to Canada, your navy will be significantly hampered in their ability to flexibly operate in both the Atlantic and Pacific, for we hold the Panama Canal. If your ships wish to move between the Pacific and Atlantic, they would need to move through the stormy and rocky Strait of Magellan at the tip of South America.
Stuff like that. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I should note that the majority of the empire, save for the Western European territories, are quite stable. Out of necessity, Hindus were granted the same status as Christians and Jews, despite their polytheism. China is quite stable, and Indonesia loves Awwam. The jizya is a controversial issue in your council, as some believe it to be necessary while others cite the unpopularity of the tax in historically non-Muslim areas such as Western Europe, as the abolishment of the jizya was a popular point which the ARI gained many supporters. In ARI-held areas, many Muslims voluntarily converted to other religions, notably Roman Catholocism. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Would you mind if I did a "Wartime Simulation" sort of thing with the current map, starting with Awwam? It's mostly going to be a simulation sort of deal in regards to potential conflict, the potential factors which will influence the conduct of said conflict, potential maneuvers, and possible end results?
Don't worry, we have A WarSim for everyone, even with allies such as Sals and the NFK. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Yeah, we literally just shut off the Paternian router. It was in a dawn raid involving SWAT teams with C36 carbines. The nerds surrendered immediately. @WSC
lol. I was thinking that in the tank school, Victoria and Suleimani apparently were engaged while both were in officer school, but broke up because he could not tell his family of such. And his family had other plans for his romantic future because lol arranged marriage with the Super-Heavy tanks, who are a bit more possessive.
They're kind of like an odd couple. She calls him "Sol" (short for Soloman) and he calls her Vicky. It's just my idea, trying to make the Suleimani less of a stock character. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@PINK @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation We ditched the concept of an unmanned turret, because we couldn't make one where the commander can observe the battlefield from atop the turret with his own eyes.
Paternian tank commanders rarely, if ever, close their hatches because doing so decreases visibility. If under immense fire or snipers are a risk, the commander will often close the hatch in the "open, covered" position so as to allow them to view the battlefield without too much exposure.
It is widely accepted that having said visibility and situational awareness is important in a tank, especially since tanks of all types are notorious for their inherently poor situational awareness. Having such will make it far easier to detect threats such as enemy tanks or antitank units.
The only time they fully close their hatches is when nuclear, chemical, or biological agents are on the battlefield.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I figured that you would be interested in the Iranian F-14.
Those pilots were good. Given the amount of internation sanctions on Iran at the time, it is a wonder as to how they were able to maintain them.
Nonetheless, in the Iran-Iraq War, the Iranian F-14 was probably the most powerful fighter aircraft on any side.
In fact, during Operation Desert Storm, US Navy F-14s didn't achieve many aerial victories because the Iraqis have developed a surefire technique on how to survive an encounter with an F-14 from the Iranians; ditch your bombs and missiles, turn around, and hit the afterburners.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Also, in Awwami Greece, the ARI have been quite successful in the Peloponnese, with the support of sympathetic Awwami Army divisions (which were largely recruited from the area).
Also, I'm about to objectively analyze the Suleimani and Layl tanks from the perspective of a Paternian tanker.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Very true. The popular and underlying opposition to Awwami rule which I claim is a direct allegory to the Greek and Serbian popular and underlying opposition to Ottoman rule. A good few dozen generations have firmly cemented dislike and hatred for the Turks, which is still around to this day. Even up to now, the Greeks and Turks have often had clashes with each other, although relations are thawing.
The M5A5 is basically the toughest tank to roam the Earth. Stories of Victoria tanks on rampages are not unknown. The Layl had incredible difficulty killing one of these things. The only chance they have at killing one of these 70-ton beasts is to engage at point blank range at the sides of rear armor.
Fortunately for your army, we didn't have a lot of them because they were as expensive as one of your super heavy tanks (which Victoria crews really loved to kill). But the ones we did have left quite the impression on your soldiers, and they developed an exceptionally healthy amount of respect for this beast.
And Layl is a place in Iran where I assume you live in or have connections to. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Perhaps not the law itself from the perspective of a conservative society. However, from a liberal society, such as pre-Awwam France, some elements such as executions and amputations may seem barbaric to a nation that gave up the death penalty in civilian courts long ago. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I read lots of history, and know that even if the rebels never were really popular initially, a violent crackdown could spark the cause. Read up. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Basically, a lot of the issues many people have is the jizya and the harsh manner which you rule.
You see, True Paternia is now a political party, alongside the Republican Party (the center-left liberals), the Nationalist Party (the center-right liberals), the Communist Party of Paternia (left wing party), and the Patriot Party (right wing party), among others. They are firmly a far-right party. They have given up their aims of violence and now seek to win votes.
I think you should really, REALLY, ease up on violent reprisals. Because if history teaches us anything, violent crackdowns, such as that after the Easter Rising in Ireland, where the rebels were not incredibly popular, but the violent British crackdown caused many to see the rebels as martyrs, it has a tendency to enhance than extinguish the fires of revolution. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation You better care. Because that's part of the basis of the ARI's support.
You see, many people converted because of financial pressure. The jizya was quite unpopular, you see. They only listed themselves as Muslim because they didn't want to pay the damn tax.
In reality, many secretly were Christians or Jews. Others simply moved to Paternia, where they don't have that. Like, seriously, it's a bad idea. A real bad idea.
Many have cited the jizya as the reason why they support the ARI, for one of their points is the abolishment of said tax if they come to power. Of course, there are other reasons too; nationalism is powerful; but many people are sick and tired of having to pay it, and really want you out.
Trust me, it does.
Same HP, 90mm gun with 160mm of AP, 243mm with APCR, 0.38 accuracy, 10 degrees of gun depression, 2.3 second aim time, and is quite mobile. The KV-85, although possessing 170mm of pen with AP, has 210mm of APCR, 2.8 second aim time, 3 degrees of gun depression, is a bit slower, and must live in the shadow of its former self.
Both machines have decent turret armor and terrible hull armor.
I have seen both the M6 and the T-150 serve as substitutes equally well. @VladCelTroll
@GoldenEagle
Its very much there. With its friend M6, which is one of the most popular heavy tanks due to its value in Clan Wars, as a substitute to the KV-85.
Basically, clans fight for territory in special battles. It's 7v7 for Tier 6, 10v10 for Tier 8, and 15v15 for Tier 10.
In Tier 6 CW, you will see lots of Cromwells, O-I, M6, KV-85, Hellcats, T37 light tanks, MT-25 light tanks, 59-16 light tanks, AMX-12t light tanks, M44 sky cancers, and the FV304 Bert sky cancer. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
They then removed them and created the beast that was this. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You realize the point of the DIE pod is to allow non-stealthy aircraft to become stealthy, right?
@PINK The export version is the same as the non-export version, sans equipment.
Yep. Takes geography into account so as to influence force effectiveness.
For example, while our navy will have clear control over the Pacific and most of the Atlantic Ocean due to our island holdings, the Indian Ocean is virtually under your control. While you may have the GIUK (Greenland-Iceland-UK) corridor which to funnel supplies through to Canada, your navy will be significantly hampered in their ability to flexibly operate in both the Atlantic and Pacific, for we hold the Panama Canal. If your ships wish to move between the Pacific and Atlantic, they would need to move through the stormy and rocky Strait of Magellan at the tip of South America.
Stuff like that. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
To think this thing was once underpowered in World of Tanks...
The Rangefinder ears were part of the damage model. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Thanks! Can you add the UPNW as one of our alliances? @GoldenEagle
lol the struggle. :D @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I should note that the majority of the empire, save for the Western European territories, are quite stable. Out of necessity, Hindus were granted the same status as Christians and Jews, despite their polytheism. China is quite stable, and Indonesia loves Awwam. The jizya is a controversial issue in your council, as some believe it to be necessary while others cite the unpopularity of the tax in historically non-Muslim areas such as Western Europe, as the abolishment of the jizya was a popular point which the ARI gained many supporters. In ARI-held areas, many Muslims voluntarily converted to other religions, notably Roman Catholocism. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You are the biggest economy in the RP. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Point-blank range? @TemDesBur
Thanks! @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Would you mind if I did a "Wartime Simulation" sort of thing with the current map, starting with Awwam? It's mostly going to be a simulation sort of deal in regards to potential conflict, the potential factors which will influence the conduct of said conflict, potential maneuvers, and possible end results?
Don't worry, we have A WarSim for everyone, even with allies such as Sals and the NFK. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
That was probably one of the biggest conflicts this RP has seen. One power falls, and another rises to fill its place.
Referring to the NFK and Paternia.
I'm sure the effects of the war shall last quite long.
Also, did you want to invade Sals because they let us recruit and train an army there? @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
And I'm glad we're not at war either. You kind of have the resources of half of Earth on your side. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Not yet. And yes, you may build your tanks like mine. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
May we join the UPNW? @GoldenEagle
Yes. @FuryionAircraft
Yeah, we literally just shut off the Paternian router. It was in a dawn raid involving SWAT teams with C36 carbines. The nerds surrendered immediately. @WSC
Permission to join the UPNW? @GoldenEagle
Where is it? @WSC
Yeah. We kind of strafed them with 30mm cannons from our Pummelers. They're probably dead. @WSC
Here's the gist of the armor profile:
Upper front hull: Just shoot somewhere else.
Turret front and sides: See upper front hull
Lower front hull: it's not as strong as the upper plate. But it's still better than the upper plate of most tanks.
Side hull: If you get a flush shot and you are close enough to jam the muzzle into the side, you've got a chance.
Rear armor: same as the side hull armor, but now at Rock-throwing range.
Top armor: T92-proof
Belly armor: ISU-152-proof
@TemDesBur
Yep. Not even Awwami tanks dared to challenge the front of this thing. @MAHADI
lol. I was thinking that in the tank school, Victoria and Suleimani apparently were engaged while both were in officer school, but broke up because he could not tell his family of such. And his family had other plans for his romantic future because lol arranged marriage with the Super-Heavy tanks, who are a bit more possessive.
They're kind of like an odd couple. She calls him "Sol" (short for Soloman) and he calls her Vicky. It's just my idea, trying to make the Suleimani less of a stock character. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@PINK @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation We ditched the concept of an unmanned turret, because we couldn't make one where the commander can observe the battlefield from atop the turret with his own eyes.
Paternian tank commanders rarely, if ever, close their hatches because doing so decreases visibility. If under immense fire or snipers are a risk, the commander will often close the hatch in the "open, covered" position so as to allow them to view the battlefield without too much exposure.
It is widely accepted that having said visibility and situational awareness is important in a tank, especially since tanks of all types are notorious for their inherently poor situational awareness. Having such will make it far easier to detect threats such as enemy tanks or antitank units.
The only time they fully close their hatches is when nuclear, chemical, or biological agents are on the battlefield.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Okay.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I figured that you would be interested in the Iranian F-14.
Those pilots were good. Given the amount of internation sanctions on Iran at the time, it is a wonder as to how they were able to maintain them.
Nonetheless, in the Iran-Iraq War, the Iranian F-14 was probably the most powerful fighter aircraft on any side.
In fact, during Operation Desert Storm, US Navy F-14s didn't achieve many aerial victories because the Iraqis have developed a surefire technique on how to survive an encounter with an F-14 from the Iranians; ditch your bombs and missiles, turn around, and hit the afterburners.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Also, in Awwami Greece, the ARI have been quite successful in the Peloponnese, with the support of sympathetic Awwami Army divisions (which were largely recruited from the area).
Also, I'm about to objectively analyze the Suleimani and Layl tanks from the perspective of a Paternian tanker.
I can make it shoot.
@Himynameiswalrus Yeah.
@Himynameiswalrus No thanks. We've got several thousand M37 railguns.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Very true. The popular and underlying opposition to Awwami rule which I claim is a direct allegory to the Greek and Serbian popular and underlying opposition to Ottoman rule. A good few dozen generations have firmly cemented dislike and hatred for the Turks, which is still around to this day. Even up to now, the Greeks and Turks have often had clashes with each other, although relations are thawing.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Hawaii. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Hi
It will.
Which is why we will introduce the M5A6 (155).
It will have a new low-profile remotely-operated turret, to make it harder to hit, as well as more durable. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
The M5A5 is basically the toughest tank to roam the Earth. Stories of Victoria tanks on rampages are not unknown. The Layl had incredible difficulty killing one of these things. The only chance they have at killing one of these 70-ton beasts is to engage at point blank range at the sides of rear armor.
Fortunately for your army, we didn't have a lot of them because they were as expensive as one of your super heavy tanks (which Victoria crews really loved to kill). But the ones we did have left quite the impression on your soldiers, and they developed an exceptionally healthy amount of respect for this beast.
And Layl is a place in Iran where I assume you live in or have connections to. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You have this, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kate Winslett, James Cameron, and a by the book love story, and you will get a blockbuster.
Perhaps not the law itself from the perspective of a conservative society. However, from a liberal society, such as pre-Awwam France, some elements such as executions and amputations may seem barbaric to a nation that gave up the death penalty in civilian courts long ago. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Thanks! @Emilzkiller
Okay. @CaesiciusPlanes
I read lots of history, and know that even if the rebels never were really popular initially, a violent crackdown could spark the cause. Read up. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Basically, a lot of the issues many people have is the jizya and the harsh manner which you rule.
You see, True Paternia is now a political party, alongside the Republican Party (the center-left liberals), the Nationalist Party (the center-right liberals), the Communist Party of Paternia (left wing party), and the Patriot Party (right wing party), among others. They are firmly a far-right party. They have given up their aims of violence and now seek to win votes.
I think you should really, REALLY, ease up on violent reprisals. Because if history teaches us anything, violent crackdowns, such as that after the Easter Rising in Ireland, where the rebels were not incredibly popular, but the violent British crackdown caused many to see the rebels as martyrs, it has a tendency to enhance than extinguish the fires of revolution. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation You better care. Because that's part of the basis of the ARI's support.
You see, many people converted because of financial pressure. The jizya was quite unpopular, you see. They only listed themselves as Muslim because they didn't want to pay the damn tax.
In reality, many secretly were Christians or Jews. Others simply moved to Paternia, where they don't have that. Like, seriously, it's a bad idea. A real bad idea.
Many have cited the jizya as the reason why they support the ARI, for one of their points is the abolishment of said tax if they come to power. Of course, there are other reasons too; nationalism is powerful; but many people are sick and tired of having to pay it, and really want you out.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I see.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Nationalism, sir.
Never underestimate it.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I beg to differ