@PINK That's probably the best approach. But if Awwam gets involved, be very careful. It's run by a loose cannon, and may attack us as a retaliatory strike.
Which we will then completely destroy their a$$ once and for all.
@PyrusEnderhunter Awwam has developed a conceptually-similar but cruder system, where gun elevation is controlled traditionally, but the vehicle must still slew its whole hull to aim. The positioning and mounting of the gun has been shown to negatively affect accuracy compared to the XM20 and has a high apparent profile when engaging from a reverse slope.
It is a much lower profile machine, especially when firing from a reverse slope. The armor, which is of PSL-4 of a fourth of the raw thickness of the M5A6 Victoria's armor, is twice as effective due to the extreme slope. Even the Temporian 183mm cannon found difficulty at engaging the upper slope for this reason.
@PINK It was more a license to build them. We can't stop them from building them, as all license to construct Paternian anything comes with an "emergency clause" stating that in times of war, while they still have to pay us, we cannot order them to stop making them.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation And note that the demographics and history of Greece and Serbia is how we analyze your rule and popularity in Europe.
Most people in Western Europe are either Christian, atheist, or have their own religious beliefs. Less than 10% of them are Muslims of any description.
So tell me again, how exactly did you convert the majority to Islam? To them, Sharia is barbaric, and your harsh enforcement only proves it. When the ARI launched Red August, they had support from approximately 20% of the population, another 20% supporting Awwam, and the other 60% in the crossfire completely neutral.
However, the manner which you crushed the ARI (jamming so much of your army in the area as to make guerilla activity impossible) got the neutral 60% of the people to be REALLY pissed. Renee Ajlani, whose name was once controversial, now became a new Joan of Arc for Europe.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Well, if he didn't feel that you have wronged him, he wouldn't have joined me.
If he didn't feel as if you pissed all over him, then he would not have been so enthusiastic to want to rid of you. The fact I was able to persuade him to turn against you so easily should be considered a symptom of a larger problem within Awwam than my treachery.
I understand where you come from, in terms of leadership. The Middle East is jam-packed with governments where power is highly centralized, and in a society where strict obedience to authoritarian leadership regardless of opinion is expected, where conformity to the norm is expected, and harsh, physical punishments are to be meted when neither obedience nor conformity is present.
Now while I do not think this is a good system, I recognize that I come from Liberal America, where opposition to leadership based on opinion is cherished (I mean, look at America's heroes; Martin Luther King Jr., the Founding Fathers, and Abraham Lincoln. These are people who opposed the leadership and the systems they supported which they saw unfit.), where nonconformity is often cherished, and people OPPOSE those who punish those for disobedience due to philosophy and those who seek to enforce conformity.
Now, while I think the Sharia system would see little, if any, opposition to its implementation in more conservative areas such as Arabia, the Levant (with the exception of Lebanon and Israel), Anatolia, Central Asia, Indonesia, and Malaysia, I would think that said implementation of Sharia would be vehemently opposed in areas such as Western Europe, India, Nepal, China, Australia, and New Zealand, which have long had their own systems of laws and where the implementation of Sharia was forced upon the people.
I do not think that areas such as those mentioned above will convert to Islam so willingly, even after decades of occupation and rule by an Islamic government. Take areas like Greece, India, and Serbia, areas which have been ruled by Islamic governments for centuries, yet are largely non-Muslim. While India would view the Mughals in a better light than the British Raj because the Mughals actually wanted to be Indians (and in practice, were no better than the preceding Hindu monarchs), the Greeks and Serbians HATED Ottoman rule. And in Greece and Serbia, over 90% of the population is in fact Orthodox Christian.
Well, that's what Salish and Paternian Muslims believe. ISIS believes that they are fighting for the establishment of a caliphate in Islam's raw form. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Your basis was faulty. True Paternia is a political party, and Mujahari Ranaya would know very well that politically-motivated violence is frowned upon in Paternia. He saw his party rise in supporters when he decided to achieve the goal of a communist Paternia through peaceful means. Ranaya is a libéré, or "liberated", referring to Awwami soldiers who have joined the Paternian Army. The term is in French, since most defections to the Paternian Army happened in North Africa. They are fluent in both French and Arabic, and comprise of the majority of French speakers in Paternia.
And by "liberated" I mean "liberated from brainwashing by Awwam". Salish Muslims see Awwam as most Muslims see Daesh, and dishearted by Salish official neutrality, joined the Paternian Army when we began recruitment. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's not necessarily the intent, but the actions too.
Also, why would you do something which would willingly alienate an ally? You didn't have to respond with chemical weapons. You could have chosen the moral high ground. Instead, you dumped your arsenal on our people.
It was clear that he was fine with the use of chemical weapons. It was also clear he was not fine beating up a liberal democracy.
And that comment of "straying from Islam" is a sign of desperation to hold onto power. I feel that if you were to leave, @Supermini555 would most likely take over your position. I doubt he would stray from Islam, although would be more accepting to other ideas.
Like you, he feels Islam is the best way to proceed. However, at least he doesn't let that cloud his judgement on conduct with other members. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You basically said "He started it first!" which is a quote first graders use.
I do take some responsibility for the events that transpired. Waiting for your admission of responsibility.
It was my fault that we decided to launch a rebellion. However, you didn't make it particularly hard to convince people that you are a terrible leader. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I recognize that. I have learned that the leadership tactics that work with children are the same that work with adults. Although adults are smarter and more competent (I'd think), they are as rational as the children which they raise. @frostbite
We can provide you complete control over our South American territories (everything south of Panama). In fact, we will cede it to you. There, you'll have land routes of trade to Katipunia, Paternia, Ecuador, and Avarua. @frostbite
You're terrible at arguing points. In every conflict, we gain the supporters you lost. Soon, you will be by yourself, and the world will wonder how to dispose of you.
And then history will sweep you into her dustbin. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
No. No you don't. Because every time we strike, you are caught offguard. You didn't expect Operation Rubicon. You didn't expect Walrus to leave.
Those were some big surprises. And the fact there were turncoats among you is indicative of your leadership.
If RMark1 felt his ideas were in fact heeded, then he would never have turned against Awwam. But because YOU treated him like crap, he lost respect for you, and sought a leader who had in fact respected him: me. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's called a fcuking survey. So I know what I have, what people think, and therefore can conduct my next steps.
As Sun Tzu said, know yourself and your enemy, and you should not fear the result of a thousand battles. Know yourself but not the enemy, and for every victory, you will suffer a defeat. Know neither yourself nor your enemy, and you shall face defeat in every battle. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Fundamentalists seek to achieve a former, more perfect state, believing that through time, said religion or ideology has strayed from a previous, more perfect state. They also have strict literalist interpretation of religious texts. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
We did. Remember, it took us two weeks to take Canada. Our main tactic is to so desicively outfight your units on so many fronts as to cause a domino effect which results in the disorganization of the majority of an army. The rest, seeing the odds against them, either mount a fight and get completely ganked and killed or surrender. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Origin in Latin, later Italian as infante, referring to youth. This evolved into infanteria, and later in France, became infanterie, and made its way into English from there as infantry. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@GoldenEagle
They didn't teleport. They infiltrated and appeared to teleport because we appear and disappear so suddenly. We have actually read that book.
And the Canada campaign took us two weeks.
I suggest a 3-day ban on MemeKing for false accusations.
@Sharky Do you want to rule a sultanate in Arabia? All for yourself. No sharing with Awwam. Or anyone.
They've become corrupt, inept, overconfident, mismanaged, and members are leaving Awwam faster than CoD fans after that Infinite Warfare trailer.
I feel that once Awwam has no enemies worth putting up a fight (i.e. if they manage to destroy us), they will come after you, for you will be a liability thereafter.
Just gimme a moment to conduct a bit of diplomacy and bring up some history on Muslims who fought other Muslims to take their land and resources.
There's Tamerlane, one of the descendants of the Mongolian Muslims. Revered by the Awwami in Central Asia, and hated by the Awwami in Arabia and the Levant. And the Mughal Empire. The latter were really no better than the Hindu kings before them.
@PyrusEnderhunter RIP.
@GoldenEagle @PINK @Supermini555
@PyrusEnderhunter I don't need the help to bomb the factories of the UNSR. @PINK does.
@PINK That's probably the best approach. But if Awwam gets involved, be very careful. It's run by a loose cannon, and may attack us as a retaliatory strike.
Which we will then completely destroy their a$$ once and for all.
@PyrusEnderhunter Awwam has developed a conceptually-similar but cruder system, where gun elevation is controlled traditionally, but the vehicle must still slew its whole hull to aim. The positioning and mounting of the gun has been shown to negatively affect accuracy compared to the XM20 and has a high apparent profile when engaging from a reverse slope.
It is a much lower profile machine, especially when firing from a reverse slope. The armor, which is of PSL-4 of a fourth of the raw thickness of the M5A6 Victoria's armor, is twice as effective due to the extreme slope. Even the Temporian 183mm cannon found difficulty at engaging the upper slope for this reason.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation What do you think of this tank? It's basically the S-Tank.
@PyrusEnderhunter What do you think of this tank? Best TD in RP?
@PINK It was more a license to build them. We can't stop them from building them, as all license to construct Paternian anything comes with an "emergency clause" stating that in times of war, while they still have to pay us, we cannot order them to stop making them.
@PyrusEnderhunter Me too.
Did you use structural wings and XML-modded them to have control surfaces?
@PINK Be careful though. They are armed with Paternian equipment. Which they just purchased from us. They have F-7 Vipers.
Probably for that reason.
@PINK Oh.
Go fcuk them up. We always considered them a liability.
hands silenced M20 SMG You know what to do. It's basically a MAC-10.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation And note that the demographics and history of Greece and Serbia is how we analyze your rule and popularity in Europe.
Most people in Western Europe are either Christian, atheist, or have their own religious beliefs. Less than 10% of them are Muslims of any description.
So tell me again, how exactly did you convert the majority to Islam? To them, Sharia is barbaric, and your harsh enforcement only proves it. When the ARI launched Red August, they had support from approximately 20% of the population, another 20% supporting Awwam, and the other 60% in the crossfire completely neutral.
However, the manner which you crushed the ARI (jamming so much of your army in the area as to make guerilla activity impossible) got the neutral 60% of the people to be REALLY pissed. Renee Ajlani, whose name was once controversial, now became a new Joan of Arc for Europe.
I shall write a story about that.
@PINK Not yet. Patience, my friend. We are not in a position to retake Quebec from Canada.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Well, if he didn't feel that you have wronged him, he wouldn't have joined me.
If he didn't feel as if you pissed all over him, then he would not have been so enthusiastic to want to rid of you. The fact I was able to persuade him to turn against you so easily should be considered a symptom of a larger problem within Awwam than my treachery.
I understand where you come from, in terms of leadership. The Middle East is jam-packed with governments where power is highly centralized, and in a society where strict obedience to authoritarian leadership regardless of opinion is expected, where conformity to the norm is expected, and harsh, physical punishments are to be meted when neither obedience nor conformity is present.
Now while I do not think this is a good system, I recognize that I come from Liberal America, where opposition to leadership based on opinion is cherished (I mean, look at America's heroes; Martin Luther King Jr., the Founding Fathers, and Abraham Lincoln. These are people who opposed the leadership and the systems they supported which they saw unfit.), where nonconformity is often cherished, and people OPPOSE those who punish those for disobedience due to philosophy and those who seek to enforce conformity.
Now, while I think the Sharia system would see little, if any, opposition to its implementation in more conservative areas such as Arabia, the Levant (with the exception of Lebanon and Israel), Anatolia, Central Asia, Indonesia, and Malaysia, I would think that said implementation of Sharia would be vehemently opposed in areas such as Western Europe, India, Nepal, China, Australia, and New Zealand, which have long had their own systems of laws and where the implementation of Sharia was forced upon the people.
I do not think that areas such as those mentioned above will convert to Islam so willingly, even after decades of occupation and rule by an Islamic government. Take areas like Greece, India, and Serbia, areas which have been ruled by Islamic governments for centuries, yet are largely non-Muslim. While India would view the Mughals in a better light than the British Raj because the Mughals actually wanted to be Indians (and in practice, were no better than the preceding Hindu monarchs), the Greeks and Serbians HATED Ottoman rule. And in Greece and Serbia, over 90% of the population is in fact Orthodox Christian.
Before afterburners: This is pretty fast.
After afterburners: HOLY SHIET WTF @PyrusEnderhunter
@PINK Go ahead.
@PyrusEnderhunter That's the best part.
It's a beautiful plane.
I always admired the determination of the Polish people. @1gman4evr
Well, that's what Salish and Paternian Muslims believe. ISIS believes that they are fighting for the establishment of a caliphate in Islam's raw form. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Your basis was faulty. True Paternia is a political party, and Mujahari Ranaya would know very well that politically-motivated violence is frowned upon in Paternia. He saw his party rise in supporters when he decided to achieve the goal of a communist Paternia through peaceful means. Ranaya is a libéré, or "liberated", referring to Awwami soldiers who have joined the Paternian Army. The term is in French, since most defections to the Paternian Army happened in North Africa. They are fluent in both French and Arabic, and comprise of the majority of French speakers in Paternia.
And by "liberated" I mean "liberated from brainwashing by Awwam". Salish Muslims see Awwam as most Muslims see Daesh, and dishearted by Salish official neutrality, joined the Paternian Army when we began recruitment. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
As the undisputed King of Memes, what do you think? @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's not necessarily the intent, but the actions too.
Also, why would you do something which would willingly alienate an ally? You didn't have to respond with chemical weapons. You could have chosen the moral high ground. Instead, you dumped your arsenal on our people.
It was clear that he was fine with the use of chemical weapons. It was also clear he was not fine beating up a liberal democracy.
And that comment of "straying from Islam" is a sign of desperation to hold onto power. I feel that if you were to leave, @Supermini555 would most likely take over your position. I doubt he would stray from Islam, although would be more accepting to other ideas.
Like you, he feels Islam is the best way to proceed. However, at least he doesn't let that cloud his judgement on conduct with other members. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You basically said "He started it first!" which is a quote first graders use.
I do take some responsibility for the events that transpired. Waiting for your admission of responsibility.
It was my fault that we decided to launch a rebellion. However, you didn't make it particularly hard to convince people that you are a terrible leader. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
I recognize that. I have learned that the leadership tactics that work with children are the same that work with adults. Although adults are smarter and more competent (I'd think), they are as rational as the children which they raise. @frostbite
@WeeBabySeamus Would love to know what you think about my upgrade. Also, tag the other devs, because I would like their opinion too.
You scared him off! @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Ok. Sounds good! @frostbite
Gotcha.
We can provide you complete control over our South American territories (everything south of Panama). In fact, we will cede it to you. There, you'll have land routes of trade to Katipunia, Paternia, Ecuador, and Avarua. @frostbite
Sigh...
You're terrible at arguing points. In every conflict, we gain the supporters you lost. Soon, you will be by yourself, and the world will wonder how to dispose of you.
And then history will sweep you into her dustbin. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
But do you know your enemy?
No. No you don't. Because every time we strike, you are caught offguard. You didn't expect Operation Rubicon. You didn't expect Walrus to leave.
Those were some big surprises. And the fact there were turncoats among you is indicative of your leadership.
If RMark1 felt his ideas were in fact heeded, then he would never have turned against Awwam. But because YOU treated him like crap, he lost respect for you, and sought a leader who had in fact respected him: me. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
1) He doesn't want Canada.
2) He doesn't want to be a part of you. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
But you do think that its implementation over time has been corrupted. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's called a fcuking survey. So I know what I have, what people think, and therefore can conduct my next steps.
As Sun Tzu said, know yourself and your enemy, and you should not fear the result of a thousand battles. Know yourself but not the enemy, and for every victory, you will suffer a defeat. Know neither yourself nor your enemy, and you shall face defeat in every battle. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Yes you are.
Fundamentalists seek to achieve a former, more perfect state, believing that through time, said religion or ideology has strayed from a previous, more perfect state. They also have strict literalist interpretation of religious texts. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Sounds good! Just be sure to insist that you want to be an independent nation. @horatio
That sounds a lot like extortion. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
You can be a part of the Paternian Republic and have the entire Southern US under your control as an autonomous region. @frostbite
REALLY FAST.
SANIC FAST.
Okay. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
What do you think about Awwam as a fundamentalist Islamic Caliphate?
Just know that most European languages have roots in Latin. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
He can speak for himself. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Yeah, but GoldenEagle asked me to make a story, I told him what it will be about, and he agreed. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Nope, not according to canon, which I am busy writing. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
We did. Remember, it took us two weeks to take Canada. Our main tactic is to so desicively outfight your units on so many fronts as to cause a domino effect which results in the disorganization of the majority of an army. The rest, seeing the odds against them, either mount a fight and get completely ganked and killed or surrender. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
Origin in Latin, later Italian as infante, referring to youth. This evolved into infanteria, and later in France, became infanterie, and made its way into English from there as infantry. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Read carefully.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@GoldenEagle
They didn't teleport. They infiltrated and appeared to teleport because we appear and disappear so suddenly. We have actually read that book.
And the Canada campaign took us two weeks.
I suggest a 3-day ban on MemeKing for false accusations.
@Sharky Do you want to rule a sultanate in Arabia? All for yourself. No sharing with Awwam. Or anyone.
They've become corrupt, inept, overconfident, mismanaged, and members are leaving Awwam faster than CoD fans after that Infinite Warfare trailer.
I feel that once Awwam has no enemies worth putting up a fight (i.e. if they manage to destroy us), they will come after you, for you will be a liability thereafter.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation I see.
Just gimme a moment to conduct a bit of diplomacy and bring up some history on Muslims who fought other Muslims to take their land and resources.
There's Tamerlane, one of the descendants of the Mongolian Muslims. Revered by the Awwami in Central Asia, and hated by the Awwami in Arabia and the Levant. And the Mughal Empire. The latter were really no better than the Hindu kings before them.