Because when they actually flew A-10s against the Iraqi Republican Guard (by the way, the closest thing to a competent conventional force met by the US Armed Forces in recent times), which was better equipped, better trained, and better motivated than most of the Iraqi Army, the A-10 was absolutely murdered by surface-air missiles, and was subsequently withdrawn from action against them, replaced by F-16 fighter bombers with precision-guided munitions.
And so they were used in counter-insurgency missions, which while the type was very effective, its use was akin to using a sledgehammer to drive a nail through a 2x4 plank of wood. A basic or advanced trainer, such as the BAe Hawk and the Embraer Tucano (in limited USAF service as the A-29), will do the same job just as effectively, for a much lower cost to procure and maintain.
So the USAF is planning to replace it with the F-35 for CAS when the enemy is actually able to fight the US Armed Forces on a more level playing field, and a turboprop-powered attack plane such as the Bronco or Tucano, for CAS when the enemy has the anti-aircraft firepower of a Duska or Ma Deuce on a pedestal. @AudioDud3
And the AK-47, while no marksman's rifle, is considered to have adequate accuracy for an assault rifle. In addition, the accuracy between manufacturers vary depending on build quality, from highly accurate East German or Czechoslovakian rifles, to the adequately accurate Egyptian, Chinese, and Soviet rifles, to the functional copies made in some state-owned arsenal in Asia or Africa, to the questionably safe copies made in some workshop in Central Africa or the Khyber Pass. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's effective range is 100 meters. And by accurate range, I mean the ability to hit and penetrate a paper Paternian Standard 0.3M circular target with a 12.5mm plywood backing.
If the round can penetrate the board, then it is considered enough to stop a man. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@YuukaNeko If you wish to know, the system for all my bolt-action rifles are based on the Mauser type, because the Mauser bolt-action system is easily the best in the world, sold and manufactured widely, and copied by more.
The M28 (marketed as K-28) was single-shot because there is no way a single-shot breech-loading cartridge rifle is going to jam on you.
Of course, this reduces the speed which one can acquire new targets or reengage the first target, so it was later replaced by the M38 rifle, which like this, features a magazine. Still, the M28 still sees use among airborne and Scout Ranger units due to its detachable barrel (which the M38 omits in order to make magazine feeding reliable without affecting accuracy) and the lighter weight due to the lack of a magazine and its feed system.
Nice job though. I may make a sniper rifle based off this, although certainly downsized to 7.62mm NATO for obvious reasons.
Three actually. The Broadsalian Republic, who just had a big war with the ESR, the Canadian Republic, and Alix451 Industries, the latter who is a contractor for the Paternian Army. @Mudkip
@Alix451 Yeah. We figured that the first shot should also be the last shot when engaging armor.
Emphasizing its lower profile. However, we also know this is not always the case, and gave it lots of armor.
As of now, the Victoria series is one of the most powerful in the world. 70 tons of battle-proven steel and composites, there is nothing in the world that can punch through its thick hide.
When Awwami tanks first encountered it, it proved a very tough target, forcing them to engage the sides and rear at suicidal ranges, where its gun could kill them at long ranges.
While it is not as superior as it once was, it is still a very tough target, tougher than any other tank out there.
Now of course, this comes with downsides. Being a 70 ton tank is not an easy thing to be, and areas where the lighter Avenger and Ardent could travel, the Victoria could not.
In addition, its transmission was borrowed from the 30 ton Avenger tank. Although re-geared to accommodate the higher mass of the Victoria with great reliability, the machine is the slowest of all main battle tanks, and often after the initial assault, it would be overtaken by faster vehicles.
Furthermore, these things cost a fortune: P$5M per unit, or US$25M per tank. In contrast, the M6 Ardent costs P$2.1M, or US$10.5M per tank. They also have greater maintenance requirements, so they aren't something the budget-minded politicians like.
But the troops do, and it is by its popularity that the machine remains in service.
@TheBroadside We have four fast battleships in our navy: the PRN Iowa (BB-61), the PRN New Jersey (BB-62), the PRN Missouri (BB-63), and the PRN Wisconsin (BB-64).
All of these ships are of the elderly Iowa-class, and all of them are in service, with many upgrades, and no intention of giving them away.
However, we do have the rest of the order.
Each PGB will cost you P$15M, and each heavy cruiser will cost you P$75M.
The A-10 is getting the same fate IRL.
Because when they actually flew A-10s against the Iraqi Republican Guard (by the way, the closest thing to a competent conventional force met by the US Armed Forces in recent times), which was better equipped, better trained, and better motivated than most of the Iraqi Army, the A-10 was absolutely murdered by surface-air missiles, and was subsequently withdrawn from action against them, replaced by F-16 fighter bombers with precision-guided munitions.
And so they were used in counter-insurgency missions, which while the type was very effective, its use was akin to using a sledgehammer to drive a nail through a 2x4 plank of wood. A basic or advanced trainer, such as the BAe Hawk and the Embraer Tucano (in limited USAF service as the A-29), will do the same job just as effectively, for a much lower cost to procure and maintain.
So the USAF is planning to replace it with the F-35 for CAS when the enemy is actually able to fight the US Armed Forces on a more level playing field, and a turboprop-powered attack plane such as the Bronco or Tucano, for CAS when the enemy has the anti-aircraft firepower of a Duska or Ma Deuce on a pedestal. @AudioDud3
And the AK-47, while no marksman's rifle, is considered to have adequate accuracy for an assault rifle. In addition, the accuracy between manufacturers vary depending on build quality, from highly accurate East German or Czechoslovakian rifles, to the adequately accurate Egyptian, Chinese, and Soviet rifles, to the functional copies made in some state-owned arsenal in Asia or Africa, to the questionably safe copies made in some workshop in Central Africa or the Khyber Pass. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
It's effective range is 100 meters. And by accurate range, I mean the ability to hit and penetrate a paper Paternian Standard 0.3M circular target with a 12.5mm plywood backing.
If the round can penetrate the board, then it is considered enough to stop a man. @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation
@JoshuaPlanes Download a plane and you can.
Just be sure it's not an exact copy.
@AccipitrisEnterprises Sure!
@PyrusEnderhunter insert Frozen soundtrack
Let it go, let it go, can't hold it back anymore!
@MadBomber I shall press "F" to pay respects.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
@GoldenEagle @PINK @MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation We're phasing out the A-2. The niche it filled is simply obsolete in our eyes.
Nice! Now, let's go find some export customers.
All of Australia and over half of Asia, which mind you, is the largest continent, as well as a third of Antarctica. @1gman4evr
@1gman4evr My bet is with Awwam.
They literally have 1.5 continents.
@YuukaNeko If you wish to know, the system for all my bolt-action rifles are based on the Mauser type, because the Mauser bolt-action system is easily the best in the world, sold and manufactured widely, and copied by more.
Also includes the addition of a magazine?
The M28 (marketed as K-28) was single-shot because there is no way a single-shot breech-loading cartridge rifle is going to jam on you.
Of course, this reduces the speed which one can acquire new targets or reengage the first target, so it was later replaced by the M38 rifle, which like this, features a magazine. Still, the M28 still sees use among airborne and Scout Ranger units due to its detachable barrel (which the M38 omits in order to make magazine feeding reliable without affecting accuracy) and the lighter weight due to the lack of a magazine and its feed system.
Nice job though. I may make a sniper rifle based off this, although certainly downsized to 7.62mm NATO for obvious reasons.
@JakeTheDogg Kind of.
@TemDesBur Yes.
Three actually. The Broadsalian Republic, who just had a big war with the ESR, the Canadian Republic, and Alix451 Industries, the latter who is a contractor for the Paternian Army. @Mudkip
@PINK Inspiration came from the Challenger 1 turret.
@MadBomber Thanks!
@TheBroadside Okay.
@TheBroadside @Aliz451 Link to the Dischord: https://discord.gg/eZS2p3C
@Alix451 Yeah. We figured that the first shot should also be the last shot when engaging armor.
Emphasizing its lower profile. However, we also know this is not always the case, and gave it lots of armor.
As of now, the Victoria series is one of the most powerful in the world. 70 tons of battle-proven steel and composites, there is nothing in the world that can punch through its thick hide.
When Awwami tanks first encountered it, it proved a very tough target, forcing them to engage the sides and rear at suicidal ranges, where its gun could kill them at long ranges.
While it is not as superior as it once was, it is still a very tough target, tougher than any other tank out there.
Now of course, this comes with downsides. Being a 70 ton tank is not an easy thing to be, and areas where the lighter Avenger and Ardent could travel, the Victoria could not.
In addition, its transmission was borrowed from the 30 ton Avenger tank. Although re-geared to accommodate the higher mass of the Victoria with great reliability, the machine is the slowest of all main battle tanks, and often after the initial assault, it would be overtaken by faster vehicles.
Furthermore, these things cost a fortune: P$5M per unit, or US$25M per tank. In contrast, the M6 Ardent costs P$2.1M, or US$10.5M per tank. They also have greater maintenance requirements, so they aren't something the budget-minded politicians like.
But the troops do, and it is by its popularity that the machine remains in service.
@TheBroadside The Patrol Boats we already have on hand.
The heavy cruisers will take one month.
@Alix451 155mm M8 coilgun.
@TemDesBur Thanks!
@Alix451 Cool!
We have a dischord server. I suppose you can join it. @Alix451
@GoldenEagle I would like to inform that @Alix451 is a part of this RP, allied with (or a member of) the Paternians Republic.
We'll take the conversion kits for P$700K. Although I should note the base vehicle's price is actually P$1.4M. @Alix451
@Alix451 Welcome to the C&C RP! As you can see, there are dozens of factions.
I am the leader of the Paternian Republic. I suppose, since your builds are of modified Paternian Army vehicles, you could join us?
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Well, it's a family of vehicles. That was the base hull which is then changed to suit different needs.
@Alix451 Go ahead! I was planning to do that anyways, but other projects occupied my mind.
Also, I will link you to the RP which this is relevant in.
@iFalco Nope. Was irrelevant in our use and balancing. We balanced them differently.
And welcome back. For a moment, I thought my helicopters will be the only remnant of your presence here.
Accepted. We will be retrofitting 1,350 vehicles with this system. How much will that cost, per unit?
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation Wait, are you offering Korea to TheBroadside?
@TheBroadside We have four fast battleships in our navy: the PRN Iowa (BB-61), the PRN New Jersey (BB-62), the PRN Missouri (BB-63), and the PRN Wisconsin (BB-64).
All of these ships are of the elderly Iowa-class, and all of them are in service, with many upgrades, and no intention of giving them away.
However, we do have the rest of the order.
Each PGB will cost you P$15M, and each heavy cruiser will cost you P$75M.
There is our M6A4 UPS Ardent and M8A1 General Burns. @TheBroadside
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation @GoldenEagle @JakeTheDogg
Np! @livetoplay11
@rubbishcraft @MadBomber Thanks!
Wonderful application of my design.
I may procure and adapt them for our purposes. We were developing an IFV variant, but this will fit the bill.
Of note, the roundels on the side is of the fictional nation of Paternia in the C&C role play.
Cool! @AceOfSpade
Pretty standard price for something if this quality. @Planesbemodified
@Gmanndo1000 P$1.5M, or US$7.5M.
@Gmanndo1000 We can grant a license to produce them.
@TheBroadside I'm sure you can charter one out.
@TheBroadside You can use the Panama Canal if you need to.
Can't wait to see what you make. @YuukaNeko
Sorry. Go ahead. @mahir
Oh cool. @MAHADI
P$2.1M each. @TheBroadside