@PyrusEnderhunter Attacks against character do nothing but distract the conversation.
But yes, I am ruthless in achieving my goals. This I do not hide.
Your co-leader would have certainly understood if you withdrew from Korea. I do not seek territories that are difficult to defend. I prefer to sacrifice territory which is difficult to defend than try and hold it and weaken my defensive capabilities further.
@PyrusEnderhunter Also, we are masters at psychological warfare. It's how we can occupy foreign territories like Nepal so effectively. We are able to make them love us. With our army, comes our hospitals, infrastructure, schools, and law enforcement. Usually we leave the local governments in place, removing leaders who oppose us but otherwise leaving the structure intact. In few cases do we dismantle the former bureaucracy and institute our own.
@PyrusEnderhunter I knew that you didn't like China. Matter of fact, both of you hated each other. But you were also very powerful, and could potentially pose a threat to Paternian influence.
In addition, your refusal to completely abandon Korea, which would certainly defuse tensions and put you in a far more defensible position told me that your abilities as a commander and diplomat are limited.
In contrast, MemeKing, and PINK are much more powerful due to their knowledge of diplomacy and military command. They know how to counter your simplistic rushes and biological weapons. It's stupidly simple.
@PyrusEnderhunter 1) The Paternian Medical Service has no reported casualties from your jamming equipment.
2) You supported China. The Paternian Republic has conflicting interests with China. As his primary source of international support, it was imperative to weaken his influence, which can be accomplished by your destruction. And the NSA was a willing participant.
3) While the majority of operations were not led by Paternians, we provided the necessary logistical, reconnaissance, and technical support for the operations to succeed. Things such as the PRN Albacore (SSN-103) and F-4 Phantom II sorties form New Zealand were small but significant. Your operations to defend and retake Australia would have been far more successful if it wasn't for the small but important contribution by the Paternian Armed Forces. What they could not provide, we did.
4) I have defended your arse many times, you know. When you got absolutely pummeled and driven from the planet in that other season, I was literally the thin red line between you and complete annihilation. Yes, it was a scummy move to get rid of you, but a necessary one from our perspective.
@PyrusEnderhunter You realize that if you are invaded, Paternia and Awwam can provide military assistance.
But if either Paternia or Awwam is invaded, you can't provide much, if any, military assistance. Therefore, someone could lure either Paternia or Awwam into conflict by invading you, knowing that you can't stand up to a full-blown invasion but that by the treaty we will have to help you.
@PyrusEnderhunter That population is quite large, given the world population is 3 billion at this time. The Paternian population is 220 million, and the Chinese population is 700 million, both nations with much greater area than your nation.
So what makes you think you can provide the level of comfort we can provide our 220 million people with only a small fraction of the resources I have while maintaining an oversized military?
@PyrusEnderhunter 1) Gabon and Congo have plenty of rainforests. 2) Most of Congo itself is part of the Congo River Basin, which has large tropical rainforests. 3) I don't consider rainforests "barren wastelands."
I suggest knowing your geography before you attempt anything.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in a final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, and the hopes of its children."
We can afford to spend millions of dollars on a military because all those who hunger and ask for food are fed. Those who are cold and ask for clothes are clothed.
You cannot provide that. I want to know how many people live in your African territories.
@PyrusEnderhunter It takes more than oil to maintain a ship, which Congo and Gabon has plenty.
You need the food to feed the thousands of men and women which man and maintain these floating citadels of death. You need large shipyards to service them. You need thousands of tons of steel to maintain a warship of that size.
As of now, you have none at the level necessary to do so. You do have extensive resources in Congo, but I doubt they will be enough to build a navy that can challenge the might of the Paternian Navy.
@PyrusEnderhunter You realize how impractical a sound cannon is, right?
Also, everyone's calling you OP. Your nation is basically the Korean Peninsula, the DR of Congo, and Gabon. You don't have the resources to maintain a hundred capital ships.
You have a standard three-mile limit. Our ships are anchored half a mile further than that. From our ships we can see over 10 miles or further.
And in a war of alliances, you were not useful to me anymore. Makoink was in a better position to achieve our goals. Your position was heavily compromised.
You were no longer necessary to my goals. And nobody believes that you have hundreds of capital ships. @PyrusEnderhunter
@PyrusEnderhunter Most of your ships were sunk en route by Coalition forces.
The Kouilou River is completely unsuitable for navigation into the mouth due to the multiple sandbars. However, the Congo River is one of the largest rivers in the world, second to the Amazon. Smaller vessels could take refuge upriver.
In addition, we have every port in Gabon under our surveillance.
I suggest the surrender or scuttling of all vessels capable of blue-water operations in order to avoid conflict.
The AMX-13 can hold 12 shots with the 75mm gun. I think the 90mm version had 10 shots, and the 105mm had 8, but correct me if I am wrong.
Its autoloader has two drums, with half the autoloader's capacity in each drum.
The drum doesn't have nearly that capacity in WoT because of game balance.
Machines with automatic loaders are more than capable of serving as frontline vehicles. The main battle tank of the Paternian Army is the M6A4 UPS AUTO Ardent. It's got a rack-and-elevator autoloader system for a 120mm gun with a 16 shot capacity, with 32 reserve shells available. The Ardent, with its combination of mobility, firepower, and armor, is unmatched.
What was left of your navy, that is. Thanks to the fact that the Paternian Navy has invested considerably in naval reconnaissance such as scout submarines such as the PRN Abalone and machines like the S-2 Tracer, P-2 Neptune, and SH-4 Sea King helicopters, most of your naval strength rests at the bottom of the ocean.
We also have planted remote microphones at the sea floor in international waters surrounding the Gabonese and Congolese coastlines. Any warships that attempt to leave the Kouilou or Congo Rivers will be detected and interdicted.
@PyrusEnderhunter Attacks against character do nothing but distract the conversation.
But yes, I am ruthless in achieving my goals. This I do not hide.
Your co-leader would have certainly understood if you withdrew from Korea. I do not seek territories that are difficult to defend. I prefer to sacrifice territory which is difficult to defend than try and hold it and weaken my defensive capabilities further.
@PyrusEnderhunter Also, we are masters at psychological warfare. It's how we can occupy foreign territories like Nepal so effectively. We are able to make them love us. With our army, comes our hospitals, infrastructure, schools, and law enforcement. Usually we leave the local governments in place, removing leaders who oppose us but otherwise leaving the structure intact. In few cases do we dismantle the former bureaucracy and institute our own.
@t8erh8er And now I've gotten around to it.
@PyrusEnderhunter I knew that you didn't like China. Matter of fact, both of you hated each other. But you were also very powerful, and could potentially pose a threat to Paternian influence.
In addition, your refusal to completely abandon Korea, which would certainly defuse tensions and put you in a far more defensible position told me that your abilities as a commander and diplomat are limited.
In contrast, MemeKing, and PINK are much more powerful due to their knowledge of diplomacy and military command. They know how to counter your simplistic rushes and biological weapons. It's stupidly simple.
@PyrusEnderhunter 1) The Paternian Medical Service has no reported casualties from your jamming equipment.
2) You supported China. The Paternian Republic has conflicting interests with China. As his primary source of international support, it was imperative to weaken his influence, which can be accomplished by your destruction. And the NSA was a willing participant.
3) While the majority of operations were not led by Paternians, we provided the necessary logistical, reconnaissance, and technical support for the operations to succeed. Things such as the PRN Albacore (SSN-103) and F-4 Phantom II sorties form New Zealand were small but significant. Your operations to defend and retake Australia would have been far more successful if it wasn't for the small but important contribution by the Paternian Armed Forces. What they could not provide, we did.
4) I have defended your arse many times, you know. When you got absolutely pummeled and driven from the planet in that other season, I was literally the thin red line between you and complete annihilation. Yes, it was a scummy move to get rid of you, but a necessary one from our perspective.
@PyrusEnderhunter You realize that if you are invaded, Paternia and Awwam can provide military assistance.
But if either Paternia or Awwam is invaded, you can't provide much, if any, military assistance. Therefore, someone could lure either Paternia or Awwam into conflict by invading you, knowing that you can't stand up to a full-blown invasion but that by the treaty we will have to help you.
@PyrusEnderhunter I convinced MemeKing that you are a liability in the MDP.
@PyrusEnderhunter Clinton is a good politician.
I like her.
@PyrusEnderhunter You also are no longer part of the MDP.
Ask meme.
@MemeKingIndustriesAndMegaCorporation This revolver was made at around the same time as the M82.
@PyrusEnderhunter Also, I call BS that you have 200 battleships.
That would need 0.5% of your population just to man the capital ships, not accounting for the support forces.
@PyrusEnderhunter That population is quite large, given the world population is 3 billion at this time. The Paternian population is 220 million, and the Chinese population is 700 million, both nations with much greater area than your nation.
So what makes you think you can provide the level of comfort we can provide our 220 million people with only a small fraction of the resources I have while maintaining an oversized military?
@PyrusEnderhunter Also, what is the population of your nation?
@PyrusEnderhunter 1) Gabon and Congo have plenty of rainforests. 2) Most of Congo itself is part of the Congo River Basin, which has large tropical rainforests. 3) I don't consider rainforests "barren wastelands."
I suggest knowing your geography before you attempt anything.
@PyrusEnderhunter But you don't have that, so you claim.
You have weapons beyond the capabilities of the time.
@PyrusEnderhunter I told it to those resources.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in a final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, and the hopes of its children."
We can afford to spend millions of dollars on a military because all those who hunger and ask for food are fed. Those who are cold and ask for clothes are clothed.
You cannot provide that. I want to know how many people live in your African territories.
@PyrusEnderhunter It takes more than oil to maintain a ship, which Congo and Gabon has plenty.
You need the food to feed the thousands of men and women which man and maintain these floating citadels of death. You need large shipyards to service them. You need thousands of tons of steel to maintain a warship of that size.
As of now, you have none at the level necessary to do so. You do have extensive resources in Congo, but I doubt they will be enough to build a navy that can challenge the might of the Paternian Navy.
@PyrusEnderhunter You don't have the resources to invest in weapons.
@PyrusEnderhunter You realize how impractical a sound cannon is, right?
Also, everyone's calling you OP. Your nation is basically the Korean Peninsula, the DR of Congo, and Gabon. You don't have the resources to maintain a hundred capital ships.
Ik. More accessories than a Barbie doll comes with. Don't ask me how I know. @Supercraft888
No. @Supercraft888
He doesn't put bayonets or grenade launchers on his guns.
They interfere with suppressors, flashlights, and foregrips.
I do that because I don't need that stuff. @Supercraft888
Ikr. Those are iron sights on a RAIL. @Supercraft888
So if your sound weapon wanted to knock a plane's electronics out, it would have to knock out the plane. @PyrusEnderhunter
You can't do that. It's impossible.
Sound is a mechanical wave. It relies on particles hitting particles. This is why there is no sound in a vacuum; no particles to bump into each other.
Radio is an electromagnetic wave. It relies on photons, which are particles and waves at the same time.
Therefore, your sonic cannon would have to destroy everything between the weapon and the target. @PyrusEnderhunter
So you shattered the ears of everyone listening to a radio? @PyrusEnderhunter
So you shattered the eardrums of everyone listening to marine and land mobile band radios? @PyrusEnderhunter
It's a pistol-caliber Carbine. Similar to the stuff Hi-Point and Kel-Tec make.
Interesting concept. Reminds me of the De Liese Carbine (.45 ACP suppressed assassination rifle).
We don't just take pictures you know. Radio signals can extend far into the sea. What we cannot see, we can hear. @PyrusEnderhunter
You have a standard three-mile limit. Our ships are anchored half a mile further than that. From our ships we can see over 10 miles or further.
And in a war of alliances, you were not useful to me anymore. Makoink was in a better position to achieve our goals. Your position was heavily compromised.
You were no longer necessary to my goals. And nobody believes that you have hundreds of capital ships. @PyrusEnderhunter
Shooting down an unarmed reconnaissance aircraft in international waters is grounds for war.
And we know you don't have hundreds of battleships. Your people have barely anything to eat. @PyrusEnderhunter
Regarding what? @PyrusEnderhunter
The detailing is good enough. I've considered less detailed builds "detailed".
@PyrusEnderhunter Most of your ships were sunk en route by Coalition forces.
The Kouilou River is completely unsuitable for navigation into the mouth due to the multiple sandbars. However, the Congo River is one of the largest rivers in the world, second to the Amazon. Smaller vessels could take refuge upriver.
In addition, we have every port in Gabon under our surveillance.
I suggest the surrender or scuttling of all vessels capable of blue-water operations in order to avoid conflict.
Four rounds in an autoloader is pretty minimal.
The AMX-13 can hold 12 shots with the 75mm gun. I think the 90mm version had 10 shots, and the 105mm had 8, but correct me if I am wrong.
Its autoloader has two drums, with half the autoloader's capacity in each drum.
The drum doesn't have nearly that capacity in WoT because of game balance.
Machines with automatic loaders are more than capable of serving as frontline vehicles. The main battle tank of the Paternian Army is the M6A4 UPS AUTO Ardent. It's got a rack-and-elevator autoloader system for a 120mm gun with a 16 shot capacity, with 32 reserve shells available. The Ardent, with its combination of mobility, firepower, and armor, is unmatched.
@JakeTheDogg This is the shiet you bring into battle.
You can reload them all. @blackvultureaeroespace
You mean in Korea? @PyrusEnderhunter
I might try turn this into a Yak-3 some day.
After all, the Yak-15 was basically a Yak-3 with a reverse-engineered Junkers Jumo 004 turbojet.
What was left of your navy, that is. Thanks to the fact that the Paternian Navy has invested considerably in naval reconnaissance such as scout submarines such as the PRN Abalone and machines like the S-2 Tracer, P-2 Neptune, and SH-4 Sea King helicopters, most of your naval strength rests at the bottom of the ocean.
We also have planted remote microphones at the sea floor in international waters surrounding the Gabonese and Congolese coastlines. Any warships that attempt to leave the Kouilou or Congo Rivers will be detected and interdicted.
Basically, you pose no threat. @PyrusEnderhunter
@PyrusEnderhunter We've interdicted most vessels that dispersed.
Dispersing the ships in all separate directions made it really easy for us to find them, and interdict them one by one.
@PyrusEnderhunter Yes. Yes you can.
But given that most of your military is either demobilized, dead, at the bottom of the ocean, or piled up in scrap yards, it would be inadvisable.
And what build do you want to collab in particular?
@PyrusEnderhunter Dick moves have been allowed for a long time.
And no. Australia is part of the NSA.
@ChiChiWerx Yep. We're right now in the 1960's.
Nice!
Did you see my submission?
It actually has seven guns.
M16A1 + M203
M16A2 + M203
M4A1 + M203
M203
@A3 ALOHAnet became the basis of Ethernet and IEEE 802.11 protocols. The latter is most commonly known as "WiFi."
@PyrusEnderhunter I'd think it's a dick move to invade someone and turn them into a rump state.
It's also known as politics.
Also, the locusts were probably destroyed in the blast from bombs and also from the fact the Paternian Air Force loves incendiaries.
Like, a lot.
We also have DDT, so your locusts are going to die.
@ChiChiWerx The C&C roleplay.
@A3 Aloha to ALOHAnet.