@ChrisETH First: if you're gonna enumerate stuff, do it more than just once.
Second: About "Where did 68% come from?", at least that clears it up.
Third: Again, my original comment is not insult to him but his work, why do you keep twisting it as me insulting him personally? Unless you also want me to twist your criticism into you attack me, not my modified F4U-4.
Fourth: I did not say it was tremendous work, don't know where you got that from, after all it was a 67 word brief version of, I don't know, 10 minutes? Although the last is true, if you download the aircraft, you'll see it's already full of fuel, something I always do, because I'm not looking to make realist aircraft, for the most part, just what I picture in my mind.
Fifth: If we're gonna argue about how much changed on both aircraft, then you need to agree that I changed this F4U-4 more.
Again, his removal of 48 parts in a 1.143 parts aircraft isn't enough for a full submission, he probably could've take out much more detailing.
He wanted to make that plane better for higher end phones, what phone did he use? If his phone is powerful enough for a 1.095 parts planes, I'd like to know how much difference those 48 parts really did, did it increase his FPS by 3 frames?
Sixth: It was an "insult" from the beginning, when I saw my comment pinned, I became confused, as normally that's used for more positive or important comments, not a "You barely changed it, why did you upload it?" comment.
Seventh: As a player just starting out, he should have started making his own planes, make a new A-10, not get an aircraft from a more experienced player and re-upload it with little modification.
@ChrisETH You still can't see his "modifications" weren't enough warrant a full submission, right? Again, how much better is that decrease of 4.2% in a 1k build, that still can't be properly used in most phones.
I used percentages because it shows the proportion of modification better, I did more in this Simple F4U-4 than he did in that Gorgeous A-10.
I guess you are right, he kept "the same experience for users", laggy for most Phones, normal for most Gaming PCs, nothing changed enough.
Also, being the responsible for this Jet conversion of a Propeller Aircraft, I'd say making it flyable takes more effort than removing details from a 1k parts build, because frankly, at least 20% of the detailing made by actual great builders, I can guarantee are just redundant, I seen aircraft here in this site that are smoother than any photo of the real aircraft I've seen.
Also, where did you get that 68% from? The original was 55parts, mine is 84parts, that's an increase of 29parts, that might be an increase of over 50%, but nowhere near close to 60%.
Here's what I did, remove the prop, gave it a more round nose, add 6 machineguns (with their connecting wings hidden inside the nose).
Then I made the "Pulse jet" looking fuselages and put 1 J15 Engines inside each one, and sat then on top of 1 Long Hardpoint for each, then I had to balance out the poor thing, because it wouldn't fly or get out of the ground otherwise.
All the work was based on this picture: https://i.redd.it/51cmg20982851.jpg
In hindsight, I should've colored it black, looks better that way too.
From 1143 to 1095 parts, it's a 4.2% decrease in parts.
From 55 to 84 parts, that's an increase of 52.7% parts.
This means his submission is much more closer to the original than mine, and:
How much of a diference will 4.2% less parts make in a >1k part vehicle? How many phones will that help?
I'm of the opinion, modifications to prior vehicles should either add something new, or give a good improvement to the past vehicle.
It's a success at filling this site with more spam aircraft clones, it's not much different from those people that re-submit 2 or 3 year old good creations on their just made account, without any modification.
So, I'll not apologize for saying the truth, his submission should not have been done, but I can't control people, only tell them afterwards that they made a mistake.
As for the wrong number, yes, I'll say you right, I couldn't bother going back to both aircraft again and just went off of my memories, as I thought it was a decrease from around 1115 to 1095 parts.
@SPTNR Because Monarchii did the best good job with just 10 parts?
What is this brainrot.
@BaconAircraft is there a way to link this plane (https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/V16VR5/F98) as a predecessor to my plane?
Hi, would this work?
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/OHpOC6/East-German-Flagon
This twisted game needs to be reset.
@Luminaria Thanks
Looks cute.
Who's that on the UFP?
@ReynaldoIndustries what I meant it that looks like a Mig-31 body with F-15 wings.
Predecessor means it came before.
Sucessor means it came after.
Heads-up, recheck the rotators in the control surfaces.
While pitching, the canards are going the wrong way.
While rolling, the canards are going the same way.
Please, start learning how to use fuselage cylinders.
I see now, he switched visibleInDesigner= to false in the xml file
How did you do that with the 3 view image screen?
Is it me, or is one of the wings more swept back?
Also, start using the fuselage cylinders.
@sussybaka98198 Yeah, maybe this name has aged a bit badly.
It was more like Ursa Minor you know.
I have a F-16 in 16 Parts, I have a parasite plane in 10 parts, and another low part aircraft with 8 parts.
Thanks @TheMouse.
Who the hell spotlit this old thing?
So, the final update for SP are 3 levers?
Incredibly sad and disappointing.
@MrShenanigans Just did it, thanks for reminding me.
@MrShenanigans fictional.
I believe I have joined already, but I should've said it earlier.
@MrShenanigans Oh hi, thanks for that, but, uh, I just uploaded a better version, so forget this one, please.
Where is the Betty in the picture you put on the description?
@WarshipDude If it has a tail like that, it's a Sukhoi.
In general is looks pretty good.
I would advise you to maybe shorten it a bit, that nose looks took long for example.
I guess the front landing gear looks pretty nice.
Okay, who's gonna be the mad man that will pull off some of Trigger's maneuvers in it?
-> Fixed bug where some crafts would explode when dropping bombs due to ghost collisions.
Was that why my small carpet bombing aircraft was blowing up for no reason?
But, why?
@ChrisETH First: if you're gonna enumerate stuff, do it more than just once.
Second: About "Where did 68% come from?", at least that clears it up.
Third: Again, my original comment is not insult to him but his work, why do you keep twisting it as me insulting him personally? Unless you also want me to twist your criticism into you attack me, not my modified F4U-4.
Fourth: I did not say it was tremendous work, don't know where you got that from, after all it was a 67 word brief version of, I don't know, 10 minutes? Although the last is true, if you download the aircraft, you'll see it's already full of fuel, something I always do, because I'm not looking to make realist aircraft, for the most part, just what I picture in my mind.
Fifth: If we're gonna argue about how much changed on both aircraft, then you need to agree that I changed this F4U-4 more.
Again, his removal of 48 parts in a 1.143 parts aircraft isn't enough for a full submission, he probably could've take out much more detailing.
He wanted to make that plane better for higher end phones, what phone did he use? If his phone is powerful enough for a 1.095 parts planes, I'd like to know how much difference those 48 parts really did, did it increase his FPS by 3 frames?
Sixth: It was an "insult" from the beginning, when I saw my comment pinned, I became confused, as normally that's used for more positive or important comments, not a "You barely changed it, why did you upload it?" comment.
Seventh: As a player just starting out, he should have started making his own planes, make a new A-10, not get an aircraft from a more experienced player and re-upload it with little modification.
@ChrisETH I also almost forgot.
You keep saying I insulted him, you don't what that means right?
If actually had insulted him, I would've called him pejorative words, skipping over his work, which was what I criticized:
"Your work is bad" =/= "you are bad"
@ChrisETH You still can't see his "modifications" weren't enough warrant a full submission, right? Again, how much better is that decrease of 4.2% in a 1k build, that still can't be properly used in most phones.
I used percentages because it shows the proportion of modification better, I did more in this Simple F4U-4 than he did in that Gorgeous A-10.
I guess you are right, he kept "the same experience for users", laggy for most Phones, normal for most Gaming PCs, nothing changed enough.
Also, being the responsible for this Jet conversion of a Propeller Aircraft, I'd say making it flyable takes more effort than removing details from a 1k parts build, because frankly, at least 20% of the detailing made by actual great builders, I can guarantee are just redundant, I seen aircraft here in this site that are smoother than any photo of the real aircraft I've seen.
Also, where did you get that 68% from? The original was 55parts, mine is 84parts, that's an increase of 29parts, that might be an increase of over 50%, but nowhere near close to 60%.
Here's what I did, remove the prop, gave it a more round nose, add 6 machineguns (with their connecting wings hidden inside the nose).
Then I made the "Pulse jet" looking fuselages and put 1 J15 Engines inside each one, and sat then on top of 1 Long Hardpoint for each, then I had to balance out the poor thing, because it wouldn't fly or get out of the ground otherwise.
All the work was based on this picture: https://i.redd.it/51cmg20982851.jpg
In hindsight, I should've colored it black, looks better that way too.
@ChrisETH I'm gonna be very petty here:
From 1143 to 1095 parts, it's a 4.2% decrease in parts.
From 55 to 84 parts, that's an increase of 52.7% parts.
This means his submission is much more closer to the original than mine, and:
How much of a diference will 4.2% less parts make in a >1k part vehicle? How many phones will that help?
I'm of the opinion, modifications to prior vehicles should either add something new, or give a good improvement to the past vehicle.
It's a success at filling this site with more spam aircraft clones, it's not much different from those people that re-submit 2 or 3 year old good creations on their just made account, without any modification.
So, I'll not apologize for saying the truth, his submission should not have been done, but I can't control people, only tell them afterwards that they made a mistake.
As for the wrong number, yes, I'll say you right, I couldn't bother going back to both aircraft again and just went off of my memories, as I thought it was a decrease from around 1115 to 1095 parts.
@ChrisETH No, he said "he removed unnecessary details", whatever they were.
I modified this aircraft to be different enough, giving it 4 engines and giving it 29 more parts.
As for the 2nd comment I made, I felt confused as to why he pinned my criticism.
For the A-10 he tried to modify, he would've needed to do a lot more than taking away 20 or so parts away.
You could've just said "Got enlisted into the Russian army."
Although, is it the Army, Air Force pr Navy?
I would lower the front the landing gear, otherwise it looks nice.
Air intakes might need some work, but it looks fine.
@DimitriIqbal91 We got it to ten, now we in the profit zone.
Hey, aren't you gonna do something with the link I gave?
@Berryl Hey, I sent you an aircraft link, aren't you gonna do something with it?
What are you trying to do?
I love those wings.
Hey, my turn, I'm giving you an aircraft to customize, here is the Kauria: https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/6HsF3I/AF-01G2-Heinrack-Kauria
@Berryl Brazil, why?
@SolisOrtus Well, I wouldn't say it's that better, but thanks.
A bit inflated in the middle section, besides that, good looking.
@SolisOrtus You mean simple stuff?
I guess, yeah.
@Berryl I can't post on your account.
Only you can post on your account.