I don’t get the buzz … this doesn’t spell Tomcat to me. The original build by @suzutuki65 was actually very good for its time. This one adds detail in weird places but omits Tomcat-typical things like the characteristic front window or even a launch bar. The second canopy bow is missing and the cockpit … well, I don’t mind cockpits but if you do a replica … just do a replica. The basic model is very much the same, which is a tribute to the original but also not very creative. I’m not one to judge nilly-willy, but this just doesn’t sit right with me.
To be fair, the announcement for this one said it was gonna be a „remaster“, so there’s that.
@klm747klm747 There’s a couple of very common mistakes like that. My favorite one is when the position lights are mirrored (red/port on the right and green/starboard on the left) ;-)
Not the case here, of course.
Also, some builders make super-accurate fighter jet replicas and then go on to mix inert/practice ordnance (blue markings) with live weapons (yellow markings). Ah well, pet peeves. ;-)
I, too have been guilty of reversing actuators for control surfaces and only noticing it post-upload, though.
@SyntheticL You can literally take a look at the preview image of the challenge this was made for and know that ‚delta wing‘ is a wiiiide definition. Wikipedia tells you the same. So no, it’s not just Mirages and F-106s.
@M4RBR3D4_BR34KF45T You’re either quite sad to talk smack about a great build or very old to have seen the interior of a 747-100 „irl“. So which one is it?
Holy crap, this is just brilliant! Just how did you get it to fly this smoothly?! Do you give lessons? ;-) Great aesthetics as well. Looks very believable- unlike many other „pro“ builds on here. Awesome work!
@ArkRoyalTheDDhunter Whoah there, now, before you start dishing out wild insults, you should really do some more research. For example, start here: take a look at the Wiki page for the term „heavy fighter“ and look for the P-38. Based on multiple historical sources (provided in the article) this fighter is, by all accounts, classified as a heavy fighter, albeit one of the rare successful ones. It is considerably heavier (and larger) than a Me-109 or similar airframes. Also, I challenge you to find any „official“ classification for fighter types (as in Air Force design requirements or such). And even if you do … JEEEZ, try to be nice to people! Is that so hard?
@Diloph I see, that explains why a lot of high-quality replicas have the same issue. Could’ve thought of that myself ;-) Regardless, this is probably the prettiest and best-handling Viper on here right now. Awesome work!
@PlaneFlightX Well, it’s not like he’s done simple „square“ wings by accident here. It’s part of the aesthetic. Very simple, yet still plenty of detail where it’s actually needed. I think it’s a very legit approach to building actual simple planes.
@ReinMcDeer Yeah, I heard about the energy issues with both the legacy Hornet and the „Rhino“. Apparently, maneuvering (bfm, acm) loses the Hornet a lot of energy which it has a hard time regaining in comparison with other fighters. Thanks for being open to discussion, though!
Cool, nice and (mostly) very clean build. Love the Bronco and the concept of having a beefier version for transport.
Tipp for better take-off and landing performance: don’t use actual wing parts inside the moveable flaps, but make them control surfaces as part of the main (hidden) wing instead. That way, they work correctly. Right now they kinda don’t do much at all for aerodynamics.
For some reason, SP‘s physics can’t deal with wing parts aft of the CoL as flaps. Found that out the hard way as well.
@SimplyPlain This is one gorgeous build! Very accurate as far as I can tell. Is there a version with the livery (Egyptian Air Force?) from the preview shots as well?
@Tang0five Thanks so much - and for the spotlight as well! Well I do have a deep love for aviation and I used to draw lots of airplanes, so I know many common shapes and designs pretty much by heart. But most of my builds, previous to this one, just didn’t feel worthy of being released. However, I’m beginning to get over my precious little self and plan on releasing more stuff as it is. :-)
This is amazing! The Tornado would’ve been my choice for a 50pt replica as well. It’s a shame only one entry is allowed. I tried my hand at a low part Tornadof or fun but already failed miserably. Instead I now took the liberty of modifying your build slightly for my own enjoyment and stuck two actual 27mm cannons in the nose. Now goes BRRRRRRT! Cuz let’s be real: who needs bombs anyway!! ;-)
You, sir, are truly a master of your craft. The way you keep pumping out great-looking and flying, yet simple and mobile friendly builds with ever-increasing quality, is just amazing!
@SimplyPlain Oh great! Sorry, that re-up kinda slipped by me for some reason. Thanks! So, congratulations: for now, you seem to have made the ‚definitive‘ Me-262 on the site! I just love this jet .. it was my first scale model kit that I built with my dad back when I was 7 years old or so.
@SimplyPlain Dude, what black magic did you employ on the cannons?! They work perfectly now. Just cut through that tanker plane like a knife through butter! Is there anything you changed in the XMLs? I tried your full-detail 262 with some of my cannons and some worked fine while others had the exact same issue as your MK108s. Please enlighten me ;-)
@SimplyPlain True that. Thanks for looking into it. I think I haven’t encountered this issue yet. I may try and put one of my semi-customized 30mm cannons that I have tested in A2A combat in there just to see what happens. Then maybe compare the XMLs of the two. I’ll let you know if I find anything.
Definitely the single most beautiful Me-262 on here. Incredible detail. Love how you actually made the MK108s look the part. However, I seem to have trouble hitting anything with them: I’ve tried shooting down the default tanker (which shouldn’t be too hard) and scored what I believed to be a at least a dozen direct hits from a very close 6 o‘clock position. That didn’t seem to bother the tanker at all. I’ve noticed you’ve set the cannons‘ impact damage to 0.1 but even increasing it to 1.0 didn’t do anything. Works fine on ground targets, though! Anyone else experience the same? Any way, just thought I’d check back with you, @SimplyPlain
@Oofsalot Of course it can. Set nozzles to 90 degrees down, throttle up to 100% and off you go! It’s just that controlling it during takeoff has gotten a lot more difficult … which is more realistic … just like the new model.
Can't express how happy I am that someone finally did this awesome plane justice! I've tried myself and failed miserably (then due to lack of experience, now lack of time) and I had always hoped for this to happen. Thank you!!
Cool job! Just a little historical background: the manufacturer was called ‚Focke Wulf‘ and parts of that company were later absorbed into EADS/Airbus.
‚Fokker‘ is another aircraft manufacturer, originally from Germany, now based in the Netherlands that‘s (sort of but not really) still in business today.
@Falkenwut Hey, thanks so much for your suggestions, there are some really helpful things in there. I should mention that this is, obviously, relatively old and I have made some progress since. I have managed to find ways building a working flap design (although I’m still
waaayyy too lazy for building ‚proper‘ custom wings. I simply don’t have a lot of spare time, but whenever I do, I keep tinkering on different designs. I guess I should be uploading some of them to provide a little update on my (small) progress. Anyway thanks again, I appreciate it!
Love your builds as well, especially the modular jet, obviously. Got my own iteration of that in the works as well! Cheers
@ChamDel78 Well it will probably run until the 15th is over, internationally. As it should. ;-)
+1I don’t get the buzz … this doesn’t spell Tomcat to me. The original build by @suzutuki65 was actually very good for its time. This one adds detail in weird places but omits Tomcat-typical things like the characteristic front window or even a launch bar. The second canopy bow is missing and the cockpit … well, I don’t mind cockpits but if you do a replica … just do a replica. The basic model is very much the same, which is a tribute to the original but also not very creative. I’m not one to judge nilly-willy, but this just doesn’t sit right with me.
To be fair, the announcement for this one said it was gonna be a „remaster“, so there’s that.
+1@klm747klm747 There’s a couple of very common mistakes like that. My favorite one is when the position lights are mirrored (red/port on the right and green/starboard on the left) ;-)
Not the case here, of course.
Also, some builders make super-accurate fighter jet replicas and then go on to mix inert/practice ordnance (blue markings) with live weapons (yellow markings). Ah well, pet peeves. ;-)
I, too have been guilty of reversing actuators for control surfaces and only noticing it post-upload, though.
+1@SyntheticL You can literally take a look at the preview image of the challenge this was made for and know that ‚delta wing‘ is a wiiiide definition. Wikipedia tells you the same. So no, it’s not just Mirages and F-106s.
+1This is absolutely top-notch! How on earth did you have the patience for making this cockpit?! It’s practically photorealistic …
Besides I really love the smooth and sleek shape of the airframe. Hat’s off, sir!
+1@M4RBR3D4_BR34KF45T You’re either quite sad to talk smack about a great build or very old to have seen the interior of a 747-100 „irl“. So which one is it?
+1One tiny detail: This has to be the F/A-18C instead of the ‚A’ model. As far as I’m aware, the ‚A‘ has never been in Service with the Swiss Air Force.
+1Thank you! Just updated. @MAHADI
+1Thanks for the instant upvotes/spotlights, you guys! @MAHADI @Shimamurahougetsu
+1Shoot. I just noticed my missile pylons are screwed up. AIM-9s slam into fuselage and kill the plane upon firing. Am I allowed to update/re-upload?
+1Holy crap, this is just brilliant! Just how did you get it to fly this smoothly?! Do you give lessons? ;-) Great aesthetics as well. Looks very believable- unlike many other „pro“ builds on here. Awesome work!
+1@ArkRoyalTheDDhunter Whoah there, now, before you start dishing out wild insults, you should really do some more research. For example, start here: take a look at the Wiki page for the term „heavy fighter“ and look for the P-38. Based on multiple historical sources (provided in the article) this fighter is, by all accounts, classified as a heavy fighter, albeit one of the rare successful ones. It is considerably heavier (and larger) than a Me-109 or similar airframes. Also, I challenge you to find any „official“ classification for fighter types (as in Air Force design requirements or such). And even if you do … JEEEZ, try to be nice to people! Is that so hard?
+1@Diloph I see, that explains why a lot of high-quality replicas have the same issue. Could’ve thought of that myself ;-) Regardless, this is probably the prettiest and best-handling Viper on here right now. Awesome work!
+1@MAHADI Thanks for clarifying!
+1T
+1@ChrisPy Yup, Block 30 is the C model.
+1@PyrrhaNikos fair enough 😉
+1Little bit on the political side here, aren’t we? In light of recent events, I find this to be in rather poor taste.
+1@PlaneFlightX Well, it’s not like he’s done simple „square“ wings by accident here. It’s part of the aesthetic. Very simple, yet still plenty of detail where it’s actually needed. I think it’s a very legit approach to building actual simple planes.
+1This is positively insane and I love it! What a crazy concept!
+1@ReinMcDeer Yeah, I heard about the energy issues with both the legacy Hornet and the „Rhino“. Apparently, maneuvering (bfm, acm) loses the Hornet a lot of energy which it has a hard time regaining in comparison with other fighters. Thanks for being open to discussion, though!
+1Cool, nice and (mostly) very clean build. Love the Bronco and the concept of having a beefier version for transport.
Tipp for better take-off and landing performance: don’t use actual wing parts inside the moveable flaps, but make them control surfaces as part of the main (hidden) wing instead. That way, they work correctly. Right now they kinda don’t do much at all for aerodynamics.
For some reason, SP‘s physics can’t deal with wing parts aft of the CoL as flaps. Found that out the hard way as well.
+1You gotta be yolking. I’m in.
+1@WinsWings Thanks, I appreciate it! Just uploaded my little thingy.
+1@SimplyPlain This is one gorgeous build! Very accurate as far as I can tell. Is there a version with the livery (Egyptian Air Force?) from the preview shots as well?
+1@Almost Well, I made 4th place and I’m far from platinum. So no complaints, please.
+1@Tang0five Thanks so much - and for the spotlight as well! Well I do have a deep love for aviation and I used to draw lots of airplanes, so I know many common shapes and designs pretty much by heart. But most of my builds, previous to this one, just didn’t feel worthy of being released. However, I’m beginning to get over my precious little self and plan on releasing more stuff as it is. :-)
+1@Tang0five Thanks to you as well. As an amateur/beginner, I appreciate the feedback from a seasoned SP creator!
+1This is amazing! The Tornado would’ve been my choice for a 50pt replica as well. It’s a shame only one entry is allowed. I tried my hand at a low part Tornadof or fun but already failed miserably. Instead I now took the liberty of modifying your build slightly for my own enjoyment and stuck two actual 27mm cannons in the nose. Now goes BRRRRRRT! Cuz let’s be real: who needs bombs anyway!! ;-)
+1Damn, that’s 50 parts used perfectly!
+1You, sir, are truly a master of your craft. The way you keep pumping out great-looking and flying, yet simple and mobile friendly builds with ever-increasing quality, is just amazing!
+1Oo-wee! Thanks for the instant upvote, @AWESOMENESS360 !
+1@ZeroWithSlashedO Cool. Sorry, didn’t mean to sound so rude before, btw. Nice job, def gets a MiG-29s job done! ;-)
+1It even has somewhat of a sad/bored face in sideview! Adorable. Another fine frame industries product. Deserves attention!
+1@SimplyPlain Oh great! Sorry, that re-up kinda slipped by me for some reason. Thanks! So, congratulations: for now, you seem to have made the ‚definitive‘ Me-262 on the site! I just love this jet .. it was my first scale model kit that I built with my dad back when I was 7 years old or so.
+1@SimplyPlain Dude, what black magic did you employ on the cannons?! They work perfectly now. Just cut through that tanker plane like a knife through butter! Is there anything you changed in the XMLs? I tried your full-detail 262 with some of my cannons and some worked fine while others had the exact same issue as your MK108s. Please enlighten me ;-)
+1@SimplyPlain True that. Thanks for looking into it. I think I haven’t encountered this issue yet. I may try and put one of my semi-customized 30mm cannons that I have tested in A2A combat in there just to see what happens. Then maybe compare the XMLs of the two. I’ll let you know if I find anything.
+1Definitely the single most beautiful Me-262 on here. Incredible detail. Love how you actually made the MK108s look the part. However, I seem to have trouble hitting anything with them: I’ve tried shooting down the default tanker (which shouldn’t be too hard) and scored what I believed to be a at least a dozen direct hits from a very close 6 o‘clock position. That didn’t seem to bother the tanker at all. I’ve noticed you’ve set the cannons‘ impact damage to 0.1 but even increasing it to 1.0 didn’t do anything. Works fine on ground targets, though! Anyone else experience the same? Any way, just thought I’d check back with you, @SimplyPlain
Cheers!
+1@Oofsalot Of course it can. Set nozzles to 90 degrees down, throttle up to 100% and off you go! It’s just that controlling it during takeoff has gotten a lot more difficult … which is more realistic … just like the new model.
+1@Chillybaconface you’re making it sound like the old Vertigo wasn’t at least loosely based on the Harrier
+1Can't express how happy I am that someone finally did this awesome plane justice! I've tried myself and failed miserably (then due to lack of experience, now lack of time) and I had always hoped for this to happen. Thank you!!
+1@Falkenwut Hey thanks! That actually means a lot coming from you.
+1Cool job! Just a little historical background: the manufacturer was called ‚Focke Wulf‘ and parts of that company were later absorbed into EADS/Airbus.
‚Fokker‘ is another aircraft manufacturer, originally from Germany, now based in the Netherlands that‘s (sort of but not really) still in business today.
+1Absolutely gorgeous!
+1@Falkenwut Hey, thanks so much for your suggestions, there are some really helpful things in there. I should mention that this is, obviously, relatively old and I have made some progress since. I have managed to find ways building a working flap design (although I’m still
waaayyy too lazy for building ‚proper‘ custom wings. I simply don’t have a lot of spare time, but whenever I do, I keep tinkering on different designs. I guess I should be uploading some of them to provide a little update on my (small) progress. Anyway thanks again, I appreciate it!
Love your builds as well, especially the modular jet, obviously. Got my own iteration of that in the works as well! Cheers
+1This is so cool!! Truly a fresh idea, thanks for making this!
+1I like it! Good honest bomber with great handling and nice details.
+1Dude, this is @AWESOMENESS360 s build. Give credit or bust! Or how about asking nicely, if you can use it? Jeez.
+1Now that’s innovative and believable at the same time. Love it! I’d also love for someone to make that turret track targets autonomously.
+1I really dig this one! The details are amazing!
+1