I like this a lot. It's hypermaneuverable in terms of pitch but the control is smooth enough that you can tame the sensitivity a bit. The multimissiles are neat. The build itself looks pretty cool and is of a realistic overall size for a fictional jet. The cockpit detail is nice too. Great job!
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook If you saw it in a museum I'm assuming you went to Cali at some point because the ONLY remaining F-20 is there in a science center. Unless there's mockups and full scale replicas dotted in various museums or something
Hey I recognize where that second screenshot image is from! That's Strike Fighters 2; it's an old series of flight sim-lite games that covered air combat in the Cold War era, roughly mid 50's to early 80's. There was an early Strike Fighters 1/Wings Over series too from the same developers.
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The F-101 isn't in base game, but there are mods to add it in as a flyable aircraft - including a "what-if" mod of the Voodoo in its original escort fighter role.
@ALRX Nice build. :)
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I tried playing one of the early builds of the game before release and my laptop was chugging harder than a steam engine to run it even on low graphics so...I may have to wait for a desktop or better laptop to give it a proper shot.
@ALRX PF just means upgraded interceptor. They took the original MiG-21F fighter and stuck a more powerful radar in it to be able to use radar-guided missiles for shooting down bombers. The PFM - the plane I assume the Project Wingman bird is based on - is in that same family of MiG-21's.
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Also I gotta love that this has the infamous MGP loadout that is the same as Ace Combat 7's MiG-21bis. It can't be a coincidence lol
Because I'm a frigging nerd Imma just throw some IRL info on this plane cuz...I dunno.
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Real World Equivalent: Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-21PFM 'Fishbed-F'
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A modernized version of the all-weather interceptor variant of the MiG-21 series, often considered a "generation II" of the aircraft. Whereas the MiG-21PF only featured missiles and later an optional 23mm gunpod, the PFM reintroduced internal cannon armament with a twin barrel GSh-23 23mm cannon carrying (I think) 200 rounds. It still retained only two weapon stations as had been on the MiG-21F-13 with wiring for rockets, bombs, missiles, etc. All PF interceptor versions can be identified by the 'camelback' spinal hump which was bulged out behind the canopy to increase fuel storage. The PFM is one of the first MiG-21's to introduce the side opening cockpit, unlike the early single-piece front hinged canopy of the -21F and early PF's.
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This is a cute build. Flies well; turns quick but not so much so that it's overly jumpy. Smooth, for lack of better words. The gunpods are awesome (gotta try an airburst cannon sometime...) and after trying the recommendation in the pinned comment it seems to have far less autoroll to the left. Cockpit and dorsal spine seem a bit thin but that's fine; it looks the part and that's just fine. Nice work!
@ChrisPy I figured it was a two-seat F-5. Everything I've heard says it was a couple F-5E's and F-5F's standing in, which makes sense as the planes would've been supplied by the Navy.
Is that mobile version of Strike Fighters: Modern Combat? Tried it out on phone and kinda playing with the idea of buying for computer (if that's possible, I can check TW's website again.)
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Nice gunpla collection :)
I mean we know a few P-51's were captured and evaluated by the Luftwaffe during the war, so this isn't that out there to see.
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Great looking build too with nice shaping (especially the upside down egg-like shape of the engine cowling) and detailing.
Weird, I've downloaded three times and for some reason these aren't showing up at all; I'm just taken to the main menu instead of the designer space with the builds inside.
EDIT: Nevermind I just have to download from within the game to make them appear.
@DarkMarble1 Ok, you're comparing a prototype to a production jet.
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The F/A-18 was a fleshed-out aircraft design that fixed most if not all the problems of the YF-17. Thousands of modifications to the basic airframe were made to create a reliable fighter, not just a carrier-capable one. There were several issues with the Cobra that were going to hold it back unless Northrop pulled an F-20 and privately funded continued development - which would bite them in the tail when the Tigershark cut into the B-2 Spirit program.
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The only advantage I see in the YF-17 is slightly higher top speed at altitude.
@Parehare Should have 3-400 rounds and then a 15 second delay if you fired all of them. I always set up my guns with long delays between "bursts" as the XML property calls it
@ChiChiWerx lol
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These are the same AIM-7F Sparrows from my rebuilt Tomcat and Eagle, so they should feel the same as on those two builds. Eventually I'll rebuild my other missiles too for future projects
"Weapons: 4x guns whose calibers can vary from 20mm to 30mm."
. Looks at F-86 and F-84 with 6x .50cal AN/M2 or M3 machine guns
. Looks at F-86D and F-89 with FFAR
. F3H Demon which could use AAM-N-6 Sparrow III/AIM-7D
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HMMMMMM...anyways maybe I'll enter this one. Sounds fun and I've been meaning to build more early jets anyways
@ChiChiWerx Thankies. As I mentioned in the description I used your F-20 as a guideline for the upper limits of handling (max gforce, roll rate, pitch rate mostly.) I also wanted to mimic a loadout that would've been tested during the program; it's also why I have the ol' sharkfin antennae atop the back. So this is more a hybrid of the three prototypes versus your what-if aggressor.
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Wait were Sparrows called slammers? Thought that was AMRAAM's?
Imagine a freak accident being called cringe.
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Aside from the unreliable engine and lack of range, the Tiger was a perfectly capable fighter for the 1950's. It just had to compete with the massively more capable Vought F-8 Crusader.
@ReinMcDeer Dunno what happened either. The first...two or three worked fine, but the last missiles would launch and then fail to guide. Super weird. Maybe I'll try replacing the missiles inside and copy the same stats and see where that goes.
Love this. Great shaping and stable flying. Roll seems a bit sluggish, even for as large a fighter as the Su-27. A couple of the R-27's didn't guide to target when I tried them, but I'll check those missiles and see what happened. I did perform a cobra (sort of) and it works well. Beautiful. :)
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Now I need to come out and build a definitive Su-27 for myself.
Wow, can't believe my old F-14 is still getting used even after I uploaded a brand new one a few months back. Kewl :)
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This looks awesome, love the canards and vertical tails. The fuselage looks a bit messy but iz fin. New landing gear and glass fuselage are verr noice.
I like this a lot. It's hypermaneuverable in terms of pitch but the control is smooth enough that you can tame the sensitivity a bit. The multimissiles are neat. The build itself looks pretty cool and is of a realistic overall size for a fictional jet. The cockpit detail is nice too. Great job!
+1@KyrieKotobuki EEeeyyyyyyyy
+1@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook Ah, okie
@AsteroidAsteroidTheBook If you saw it in a museum I'm assuming you went to Cali at some point because the ONLY remaining F-20 is there in a science center. Unless there's mockups and full scale replicas dotted in various museums or something
Well 's a Fargo :)
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don't tag me or whatever, im just trying to make a joke
i can't stop laughing xD
@AerialAerialTheSnake It was meant to be dark. You can sum up the series with the cliché of, "war is hell."
Dis'n be a gud one
+1Easily 1000x better than whatever excuse I put out for a Shin Kazama jet lol
way better than my sidewinder builds lel
Byoutiful XD
Hey I recognize where that second screenshot image is from! That's Strike Fighters 2; it's an old series of flight sim-lite games that covered air combat in the Cold War era, roughly mid 50's to early 80's. There was an early Strike Fighters 1/Wings Over series too from the same developers.
+1.
The F-101 isn't in base game, but there are mods to add it in as a flyable aircraft - including a "what-if" mod of the Voodoo in its original escort fighter role.
You get my updoot just for not building a single-seat Fishbed. :)
+1@ALRX Nice build. :)
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I tried playing one of the early builds of the game before release and my laptop was chugging harder than a steam engine to run it even on low graphics so...I may have to wait for a desktop or better laptop to give it a proper shot.
@ALRX PF just means upgraded interceptor. They took the original MiG-21F fighter and stuck a more powerful radar in it to be able to use radar-guided missiles for shooting down bombers. The PFM - the plane I assume the Project Wingman bird is based on - is in that same family of MiG-21's.
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Also I gotta love that this has the infamous MGP loadout that is the same as Ace Combat 7's MiG-21bis. It can't be a coincidence lol
Because I'm a frigging nerd Imma just throw some IRL info on this plane cuz...I dunno.
+2.
Real World Equivalent: Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-21PFM 'Fishbed-F'
.
A modernized version of the all-weather interceptor variant of the MiG-21 series, often considered a "generation II" of the aircraft. Whereas the MiG-21PF only featured missiles and later an optional 23mm gunpod, the PFM reintroduced internal cannon armament with a twin barrel GSh-23 23mm cannon carrying (I think) 200 rounds. It still retained only two weapon stations as had been on the MiG-21F-13 with wiring for rockets, bombs, missiles, etc. All PF interceptor versions can be identified by the 'camelback' spinal hump which was bulged out behind the canopy to increase fuel storage. The PFM is one of the first MiG-21's to introduce the side opening cockpit, unlike the early single-piece front hinged canopy of the -21F and early PF's.
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This is a cute build. Flies well; turns quick but not so much so that it's overly jumpy. Smooth, for lack of better words. The gunpods are awesome (gotta try an airburst cannon sometime...) and after trying the recommendation in the pinned comment it seems to have far less autoroll to the left. Cockpit and dorsal spine seem a bit thin but that's fine; it looks the part and that's just fine. Nice work!
@ChrisPy I figured it was a two-seat F-5. Everything I've heard says it was a couple F-5E's and F-5F's standing in, which makes sense as the planes would've been supplied by the Navy.
I mean that was part of a trailer so...
+2.
"Be a pilot, an engineer, and a crash test dummy."
Is that mobile version of Strike Fighters: Modern Combat? Tried it out on phone and kinda playing with the idea of buying for computer (if that's possible, I can check TW's website again.)
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Nice gunpla collection :)
I mean we know a few P-51's were captured and evaluated by the Luftwaffe during the war, so this isn't that out there to see.
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Great looking build too with nice shaping (especially the upside down egg-like shape of the engine cowling) and detailing.
@Nerfaddict sorry friend
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this is the first time I've ever encountered that. I don't use the steam browser because my laptop is slow as hell with it.
Weird, I've downloaded three times and for some reason these aren't showing up at all; I'm just taken to the main menu instead of the designer space with the builds inside.
EDIT: Nevermind I just have to download from within the game to make them appear.
Man these sort of shenanigans looks so fun. :)
@DarkMarble1 Ok, you're comparing a prototype to a production jet.
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The F/A-18 was a fleshed-out aircraft design that fixed most if not all the problems of the YF-17. Thousands of modifications to the basic airframe were made to create a reliable fighter, not just a carrier-capable one. There were several issues with the Cobra that were going to hold it back unless Northrop pulled an F-20 and privately funded continued development - which would bite them in the tail when the Tigershark cut into the B-2 Spirit program.
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The only advantage I see in the YF-17 is slightly higher top speed at altitude.
@Parehare Should have 3-400 rounds and then a 15 second delay if you fired all of them. I always set up my guns with long delays between "bursts" as the XML property calls it
@DimitriIqbal91 My laptop equally rejoices
And that's how you suddenly wild part counts; that was a lot of work for the vertical tail. Kinda cool how you follow the panel line.
iz byoutiful
+1@ChiChiWerx lol
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These are the same AIM-7F Sparrows from my rebuilt Tomcat and Eagle, so they should feel the same as on those two builds. Eventually I'll rebuild my other missiles too for future projects
"Weapons: 4x guns whose calibers can vary from 20mm to 30mm."
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Looks at F-86 and F-84 with 6x .50cal AN/M2 or M3 machine guns
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Looks at F-86D and F-89 with FFAR
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F3H Demon which could use AAM-N-6 Sparrow III/AIM-7D
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HMMMMMM...anyways maybe I'll enter this one. Sounds fun and I've been meaning to build more early jets anyways
@ChiChiWerx Thankies. As I mentioned in the description I used your F-20 as a guideline for the upper limits of handling (max gforce, roll rate, pitch rate mostly.) I also wanted to mimic a loadout that would've been tested during the program; it's also why I have the ol' sharkfin antennae atop the back. So this is more a hybrid of the three prototypes versus your what-if aggressor.
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Wait were Sparrows called slammers? Thought that was AMRAAM's?
cries in real world 18% hit probability
Q u e e n
A strong boi
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@SyntheticL sur, go ahead. :)
+1@PointlessWhyshouldi N i c e
@WiiMini Hmm, never thought about that. Interesting :)
+1@DeathStalker627 I've watched the sales pitch video a couple times - the one with Chuck Yeager. I got some of my inspiration from that.
@SparkySparkyTheFiretruck Oh geez lol
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Must be an excellent looking Sidewinder build. I gotta try to update my custom weapons sometime.
Imagine a freak accident being called cringe.
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Aside from the unreliable engine and lack of range, the Tiger was a perfectly capable fighter for the 1950's. It just had to compete with the massively more capable Vought F-8 Crusader.
@RuvienRuvienTheCitizen ...Uhm, wow that was fast. ._.
@ReinMcDeer okie dokie :)
@ReinMcDeer Dunno what happened either. The first...two or three worked fine, but the last missiles would launch and then fail to guide. Super weird. Maybe I'll try replacing the missiles inside and copy the same stats and see where that goes.
Love this. Great shaping and stable flying. Roll seems a bit sluggish, even for as large a fighter as the Su-27. A couple of the R-27's didn't guide to target when I tried them, but I'll check those missiles and see what happened. I did perform a cobra (sort of) and it works well. Beautiful. :)
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Now I need to come out and build a definitive Su-27 for myself.
Wow, can't believe my old F-14 is still getting used even after I uploaded a brand new one a few months back. Kewl :)
+1.
This looks awesome, love the canards and vertical tails. The fuselage looks a bit messy but iz fin. New landing gear and glass fuselage are verr noice.
man I keep missing out on cool multiplayer meetups like this. -.- ah well
@SavageMan The Akutan Zero? That'd be pretty cool
It's immediately better than my MiG-15 and I haven't even tried this one lol~ :)
@Blue0Bull Thank you :)