Gents, adding three parts and reposting without mentioning the original creator is questionable, please be more careful and transparent in the future when modifying other users' creations. Also, realize that SP automatically tracks successor posts and the original creators are automatically notified. While the original creator seems not to be all that upset, but seems outwardly pleased someone would like his creation well enough to repost it, the rest of us are a little more concerned and would like to maintain the integrity of the community.
@mikoyanster great...I already used the standard M61 Gatling gun...I mean the "mini gun", so I didn't want to swap that out, but I was sure something was up with the missiles so I was planning on using those, thanks.
I like the VX-4 paint. I have to admit, though, that's a weird glitch. I've suffered that type of glitch before, but never because I fired the guns with the gear down!
Question: When I started my build, I assumed you meant we had to use standard guns and missiles (minigun, Guardian and Interceptor missiles)...but when I re-read this, I think you might mean that we must use the exact missiles you post above, vs. the stock missiles in the game...can you confirm?
@t8erh8er most Mirage fighters (MIrage III, Mirage IV, Mirage 5, Mirage 2000, 4000) are delta winged, the F1 was not. The F1 was designed instead with a high-mounted swept wing and first entered service with the French AF in 1974. The III, IV and 5s are actually older designs dating back to the late 1950s and 60s. The delta wing, while strong, easy to build and with a great volume (for fuel, etc.), actually "bleeds" a lot of energy in a turning fight. They're fantastic for about one 360, really getting a great initial nose rate, but then the large induced drag results in airspeed loss and causes the jet to really slow its rate of turn. Hopefully for the Mirage III pilot, the fight is over by that point. If not, the next turn will result in a missile down the tailpipe. The F1's swept wing was designed to overcome a few of the delta's disadvantages. But, Dassault went back to the delta planform with the 2000 and the Rafale.
@Supercraft888, true, but will only work if intakes are also attached to the fuse parts on which the engine is mounted; the whole assembly would then have to pivot as well. Any one else know how the VTOL trick works? Too bad we can't just build exhaust petals that actually deflect the engine exhaust...
@HellFireKoder ok, thanks. Strange thing is that the left and right wings, for example, are numerically mirroring each other, just not the cockpit and centerline parts...I think I can work around it, but can get frustrating. I'll try your fix as well, so, thanks!
It would also make the AI a better pilot. I built an F-20 which could fly the Cobra maneuver, but required a deft touch and the proper airspeed range to prevent losing control. The AI dorked it up completely every time, couldn't even fly the jet at all, throwing in full nose up input at low airspeed and thus allowing the aircraft to depart controlled flight...😡
@Ephwurd yeah, I think you might have hit the nail on the head...I was using fine tuner when this cropped up. Like you, I'm frequently annoyed by the fact that "undo" doesn't only undo my fine tuner mistake, but also my previous three steps. I think I'm going to have to take some things apart with this build and put it back together...how in the world do some of these builders create works of art in only 2 or 3 days???
Rolling with yaw is known as "rudder roll" or, as a negative effect with swept wings, "Dutch roll". It happens because rudder input swings the nose to one side and advances the opposite wing. The advancing wing generates slightly more lift and the aircraft will roll.
Landing gear would be a nightmare to replicate, but if you don't do that, you might as well call your build an F6F Hellcat. Retract version of the Catalina has the same setup, I've seen a couple of builds that do a good job replicating it, but only a couple.
@lucas1998, La Pucara es un avion muy interesante, y puedo hacerlo en el future cercano. Puedo hablar con dificultad (me uso el traductor de Google con frequncia), pero puedo leer espanol mucho mas facilmente.
I would shorten the "bar" on the USAF insignia by about 30% (make it 70% of the current length). Also, when you use them, take note that USAF airplanes only wear the insignia on one wing per side, the left one, looking down or up. Counterbalance any yawing by placing one on top side and one on bottom. They'll be on opposite wings and should counter each other, like this: Waco Combat Glider. Point of star faces forward. Some airplanes, though, like the F-22 and F-15, wear them slightly slanted refer to a good pic when deciding how to place them. Many USAF airplanes have a "USAF" on the opposite (right) wing, which is another way of countering any yawing tendency. Also, many different coloring over the years, from colored to subdued, red white and blue to grey and even greens!
RAF insignia goes on both wings, top and bottom. Many more modern types have subdued red and blues, with no white present.
Nice build. The original RB-57 preceded the U-2, so it's technically a "predecessor" to the U-2. This version, the "F", is a later variant, NASA still flies it today, very cool!
Yes, the GAR-1&2 missiles actually retracted into those pods, the original armament were unguided air to air rockets! I think it was an F-89 trying to shoot down an out of control Navy F6F target drone that set the Los Angeles forest on fire in the 1960s. Didn't manage to shoot down the F6F despite expending all of its rockets. The missiles came later...much more effective 😎
Wow, very nice! I always have really liked the F-89...not sure why, maybe it's the clashing difference between it's straight wing, not very fast look and it's interceptor mission, determined despite the odds...the missiles are a great touch, as well.
Nice, unique subject. Makes me want to try my hand at one of the WWI pushers. There are "engines" out there, builds by other users, of radial engines (even though this one is a rotary engine aircraft) which would go great on a build such as this one...
Simply beautiful is more like it, this is one of my favorite 1930s racers. I probably would have stuck with the "warbird" style prop for this one, as I think it more closely matches the original (though everything about building replicas is an approximation)...nice job!
Nice work, especially the weapons bay. But have to ask: How come the missiles don't just hit and blow up the airplane when they're launched out of the weapons bay?
Gents, adding three parts and reposting without mentioning the original creator is questionable, please be more careful and transparent in the future when modifying other users' creations. Also, realize that SP automatically tracks successor posts and the original creators are automatically notified. While the original creator seems not to be all that upset, but seems outwardly pleased someone would like his creation well enough to repost it, the rest of us are a little more concerned and would like to maintain the integrity of the community.
Nice!
Dunno, I think this looks exactly like a Mirage 2000D 🤓
@mikoyanster great...I already used the standard M61 Gatling gun...I mean the "mini gun", so I didn't want to swap that out, but I was sure something was up with the missiles so I was planning on using those, thanks.
I like the VX-4 paint. I have to admit, though, that's a weird glitch. I've suffered that type of glitch before, but never because I fired the guns with the gear down!
Question: When I started my build, I assumed you meant we had to use standard guns and missiles (minigun, Guardian and Interceptor missiles)...but when I re-read this, I think you might mean that we must use the exact missiles you post above, vs. the stock missiles in the game...can you confirm?
@t8erh8er most Mirage fighters (MIrage III, Mirage IV, Mirage 5, Mirage 2000, 4000) are delta winged, the F1 was not. The F1 was designed instead with a high-mounted swept wing and first entered service with the French AF in 1974. The III, IV and 5s are actually older designs dating back to the late 1950s and 60s. The delta wing, while strong, easy to build and with a great volume (for fuel, etc.), actually "bleeds" a lot of energy in a turning fight. They're fantastic for about one 360, really getting a great initial nose rate, but then the large induced drag results in airspeed loss and causes the jet to really slow its rate of turn. Hopefully for the Mirage III pilot, the fight is over by that point. If not, the next turn will result in a missile down the tailpipe. The F1's swept wing was designed to overcome a few of the delta's disadvantages. But, Dassault went back to the delta planform with the 2000 and the Rafale.
Cool
Let's make it 50 upvotes, 'cause this is hilarious!
This looks extremely realistic, nice job!
Nice paint job...
@Supercraft888, true, but will only work if intakes are also attached to the fuse parts on which the engine is mounted; the whole assembly would then have to pivot as well. Any one else know how the VTOL trick works? Too bad we can't just build exhaust petals that actually deflect the engine exhaust...
@HellFireKoder ok, thanks. Strange thing is that the left and right wings, for example, are numerically mirroring each other, just not the cockpit and centerline parts...I think I can work around it, but can get frustrating. I'll try your fix as well, so, thanks!
Nice. I think the rivet heads are a little OTT, but your fanatic devotion to your craft is evident!
It would also make the AI a better pilot. I built an F-20 which could fly the Cobra maneuver, but required a deft touch and the proper airspeed range to prevent losing control. The AI dorked it up completely every time, couldn't even fly the jet at all, throwing in full nose up input at low airspeed and thus allowing the aircraft to depart controlled flight...😡
@Ephwurd yeah, I think you might have hit the nail on the head...I was using fine tuner when this cropped up. Like you, I'm frequently annoyed by the fact that "undo" doesn't only undo my fine tuner mistake, but also my previous three steps. I think I'm going to have to take some things apart with this build and put it back together...how in the world do some of these builders create works of art in only 2 or 3 days???
Very nice, I am in awe of your powers!
Rolling with yaw is known as "rudder roll" or, as a negative effect with swept wings, "Dutch roll". It happens because rudder input swings the nose to one side and advances the opposite wing. The advancing wing generates slightly more lift and the aircraft will roll.
Nice work, the insignia is a really nice touch
@Feanor Thanks!
@Brields95 true, so that's why you want the right landing gear arrangement, vs. the wing gear of the Hellcat.
I recommend you lengthen it out a bit for it to fly a little more stable and I think it'll even look a little more sleek.
Landing gear would be a nightmare to replicate, but if you don't do that, you might as well call your build an F6F Hellcat. Retract version of the Catalina has the same setup, I've seen a couple of builds that do a good job replicating it, but only a couple.
@lucas1998, La Pucara es un avion muy interesante, y puedo hacerlo en el future cercano. Puedo hablar con dificultad (me uso el traductor de Google con frequncia), pero puedo leer espanol mucho mas facilmente.
It's very short, how does it fly, is it stable?
@lucas1998 si, un avion legendario...
I would shorten the "bar" on the USAF insignia by about 30% (make it 70% of the current length). Also, when you use them, take note that USAF airplanes only wear the insignia on one wing per side, the left one, looking down or up. Counterbalance any yawing by placing one on top side and one on bottom. They'll be on opposite wings and should counter each other, like this: Waco Combat Glider. Point of star faces forward. Some airplanes, though, like the F-22 and F-15, wear them slightly slanted refer to a good pic when deciding how to place them. Many USAF airplanes have a "USAF" on the opposite (right) wing, which is another way of countering any yawing tendency. Also, many different coloring over the years, from colored to subdued, red white and blue to grey and even greens!
RAF insignia goes on both wings, top and bottom. Many more modern types have subdued red and blues, with no white present.
Nice replica. Love the Sturmovik!
An SP hypersonic research vehicle, I like it!
Nice build. The original RB-57 preceded the U-2, so it's technically a "predecessor" to the U-2. This version, the "F", is a later variant, NASA still flies it today, very cool!
Just reload it, it will automatically update. I just did it for Fine Tuner Mod
@Thefosh yes, that would be cool, you can build a successor off this one if you think you could make it work
@Caesarblack thanks, glad you like it. I didn't use indestructible wings or anything, so we'll see how it does at higher speeds...😬
@IparIzar thanks, glad you like it!
@Thefosh I thought it was a glider...what do you mean?
Great cannon...you should watch the BBC Romanovs miniseries, covers Tsar Alexander's battles against Napoleon, series available on Netflix.
@SMHrubix absolutely, great idea!
@FennVectorCWA ain't that the truth! Same here!
@AfterShock yeah, sorry about that. I'm pretty busy during the week, so I tend to miss out on challenges 😐
@Verterium ummm...I can confirm, you DO indeed have longest bio in SP
@IStoleYourMeme I'm also confused...😐
@Verterium thanks! @CRJ900Pilot thanks! Yeah, it's so simple just had to add some detail.
Yes, the GAR-1&2 missiles actually retracted into those pods, the original armament were unguided air to air rockets! I think it was an F-89 trying to shoot down an out of control Navy F6F target drone that set the Los Angeles forest on fire in the 1960s. Didn't manage to shoot down the F6F despite expending all of its rockets. The missiles came later...much more effective 😎
Very nice...
@FlyingHonda27 935, hah! You must have some other post getting you points!
Boom! Now you're at 890, so I guess it didn't really mean anything...X)
Wow, very nice! I always have really liked the F-89...not sure why, maybe it's the clashing difference between it's straight wing, not very fast look and it's interceptor mission, determined despite the odds...the missiles are a great touch, as well.
Nice, unique subject. Makes me want to try my hand at one of the WWI pushers. There are "engines" out there, builds by other users, of radial engines (even though this one is a rotary engine aircraft) which would go great on a build such as this one...
Simply beautiful is more like it, this is one of my favorite 1930s racers. I probably would have stuck with the "warbird" style prop for this one, as I think it more closely matches the original (though everything about building replicas is an approximation)...nice job!
Nice work, especially the weapons bay. But have to ask: How come the missiles don't just hit and blow up the airplane when they're launched out of the weapons bay?