yeah conservation is great and all. But we kinda running out of materials, and unless these airframes can be re-engined with cleaner engines and restored to operational service, they be kinda useless.
@Sinacraft Yes I have... A unique scenario since from experience, the upvote disparity is typically 30 when two aircraft are uploaded a day after each other.
Intriguing Idea UnlistedPlanes, though I am unqualified to form an opinion or criticism, perhaps appointing @MrSilverWolf and @jamesPLANESii could form a criticism or praise to this idea of yours.
@Tang0five Oh itd be the dream to live in BC, sadly no. I live in the heartland of Canada, where its ran over by a drug crisis and general ghetto aura. Though we have polar bears so thats something.
@Mustang51, Im glad you like it, and so do the other users. Honestly my expectation for this project to take off is really low, since I am yet to see another ok SaRo Princess model on this site. And well, Flying Boats are not popular.
@BurkeEnterprise no need but thank you, I am now working on a map based to where I actually live and is extremely familiar. Its loosely based from Gimli, Falcon Lake, and Kenora.
@ShootsPlanes Come to think of it, it is literally worth one baguette, if this was sold. A baguette costs 90 Eurocents in France, which runs for $1.37 CAD, costing about $0.98 USD. Using TD2 as basis, this is literally worth a baguette...
Not sure if this is of any help, but mute out the pressure, and distract yourself to just finish the build and move on, and not to think what people think of it. And also, modulating builds saves a lot of time and as well as simplifying quality control, so for builds, build the cockpit, Wings/undercarriage, tail assembly separately, then assemble them together. And hopefully, since you may have saved them as a subassembly, you could use them for later use, Custom engines from experience are the most utilised sub-assemblies, jet, prop, fan, combustion, steam. whatever. And modulating cockpit features such as instruments, dashboard, yoke/ stick, seats, misc. items, you name it can save at least a month's worth of agony over quality control.
But I digress, dont feel pressured. No one will shout at you for missing a bolt or rivet head in a build. Though if someone did, ignore them. or be petty and send them a link to sketchfab or equivalent.
@GemYTryG use post img, upload photos to that website right, then copy the direct link. Once that happens type ! [ ] ( ) (spaces not included)onto the description of your plane then paste the direct link between the round brackets
Trial and error, and lots of Xml editing, usually test fly or set sail until the flying boat in question reaches take off speed, reduce weight of aircraft through reducing fuel, dead weight or xml editing again to ease the take off process. If your flying boat has engines mounted above the center of mass and rolls over at take off speed, set a part in the bows with buoyancy 100% with dead mass at 1000lbs, that way it may prevent a roll over@Blyatnov
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I really appreciate the attention to the livery detail, but the flight model is quite confusing for me. The rudder especially, moves so slowly that it's almost impossible to control the plane on takeoff and landing. The elevators and ailerons also take their sweet time, which leads to the plane being a "whale". Also I'm really missing that nice A330 gear tilt and suspension. Last thing from me would be the spoilerons, it takes less than a minute to code them. Actual last thing, you've got one extra flap canoe on those outboards. There's a couple more but I don't want to be a bore. Those were just some tips for you because I see you are trying to be realistic!
I dunno man, these are last year's problems now.🤣
But in seriousness though, I'm in for constructive critiques, I mean its one of the more effective ways one could reflect upon to further improve their builds, I am glad you brought up spoilerons to light, I didn't know they even existed, or if they're even universal to all aircraft, I'll code them in on the next opportunity if time allows, not exactly the type of person to cook up the perfect FT code by a finger's snap, but I'll get there eventually.
Now about the fairings, I promise they were meant to come off, and totally not hinting as to what's the next aircraft I'll work on.😅
What a masterpiece! How long does it take you to sort out engines on your builds to get the right sound, speed, power etc?
Tuning the engines didn't take much time, the two goals per se when tuning an engine thrust is that A) Takes off realistically, and B) Can reach Wikipedia Top Speed. There's more checks to check if the engine is realisticallishly tuned, but if A, and B are good, the rest generally checks out.
Sound-wise, it used to be easy. I discovered some years ago I think on my DC-8-32 Eastern project that sounds of the Blasto BFE150, and Blasto BFE300 creates a fuller sound, in essence BFE300 acts as treble for the high pitched sounds, and the BFE150 acts as bass, to simulate the sound of massive mass of air being pushed.
Sound-tuning got more in-depth when I posted my DC-8-32 Eastern Airlines to account for engine idling. Doesn't take long I feel, sound tuning was more or less eye-balled一 ear-balled if you will, whatever sounded the most sense for the given engine.
Absolutely terrific I love how many features
you can pack into your builds without getting
ludicrous with part count! Is the China flag
supposed to be reversed on the stbd side? I
only noticed as I’m trying to finalise a civil
build myself with livery and wanted to see
how the experts manage!
From the reference images, and first hand witness such as I, the Flag of China is indeed mirrored on starboard side of an Air China livery. At least, that is how I recollect it.
Augusta81 Lol some of them would take 10 seconds to fix.
I love your suggestions, and your dedication to build industrial grade planes for Simpleplanes, but Augusta is right. A majority of these are way too ambitious in the time restricted and time crunching time frame I was in even if it takes 10 seconds to add, because remember; I had to work on this Boeing 747-8i Transaero, Boeing 787-9 Air China, Washington & B.C, This Teaser Video, and everything else that was going on outside Simpleplanes all in the month of December and the fortnight leading up to it. Which is reaalllyy not easy to pull off.
Some of what you had said had considered adding days before Boxing day but otherwise dropped because there's not enough time; 2, 5, 8, 19
Others are unfair to be judged because of a typo, or the game's limitations, as it utilises default parts to save on part count sacrificing flexibility for stability: 21, 22, 26
1) Sounds a lot like NAV mode, when my only concern is to have the ability to manually control while in autopilot, and return to level flight after letting go of the yoke. 16) is a design choice I've stood by for two years, debuting in my Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle III Air France, it simplifies builds to a point that it is actually possible to whip up a wing assembly in two days, two days that would have became two months if I tried to do anything uber realistic, two months I never had at the time. 14) was present in my Boeing 727-200 NWO, no one noticed, omitted to the rest of my projects to save time since no one noticed it. 12, 15, 18) Would have required a set of landing gears that requires more than one rotator that will only work on MEDIUM or HIGH physics setting, settings I would avoid like the plague on the basis that not everyone can play in those settings. The current set of landing gears I have is good enough for the task they're entrusted to: to support the aircraft in any physics settings, and not bug out the game. I'll say it again; no to 12, 15, and 18, until Simpleplanes becomes optimised enough to support 12, 15, and 18 in low physics settings. 17, 19, 21) Calls for a FT coding that I do not yet possess the knowledge of. 20) Is a conscious decision to allow the plane to turn tightly, works best with AG3 on as it now steers like in Euro Truck Sim 2 as long as mouse control is enabled.
11) I've done before, looked weird, this sufficed 23) My only concern is to prohibit the plane from flying @ 90° pitch and gaining speed at the same time, any alterations I do makes the plane too slow or perform poorly at takeoff. 24) Its been calculated properly; 446,216lbs Loaded Weight - 268,317lbs Empty Weight = [177,899 lbs Fuel weight]. its 200 lbs more than displayed due to rounding numbers, otherwise, it weighs exactly as much as it should display. 9) Was supposed to be an easter egg to the actual 747 Transaero operates. 3) is an issue, I'll fix it right away
As for the GEnX-71B, its obviously a typo. What it meant to say was; GEnX-1B70 as it shares the same sub assembly as my 787-9 Air China to save time.
Not sure how nice you wanted this plane to be, but please understand that some users build planes not for the bourgeoise elite who can afford a beefy computer, but for the general masses to fly and experience. The ideas are good, but the executions in mobile could make the build falter.
UPDATE I: Alright, Take II! Some minor lawsuitable slogan issue has been
addressed and
rectified, Thank you for bringing that up kind person whom is @SyntheticL!
Cannot go wrong with 我愛中國 now as a slogan for a flag carrier that is Air
China which has excellent track record in safety and comfort.
天堂 heaven is rather rarely used in chinese since it somehow has the meanings on
the opposite (especially aviation).
Suggest remove the third image because it might stir up debate since in chinese it
might be understood as flying to death.
I guess your original english text was "Let us fly toward the heaven"?
Then let's hope my teacher won't see this. But in my defense, my Chinese is diminishing, the thumbnails were made in the late hours of the night and brainfarts are a common occurence, and from what I remember, 天 is something to do with sky or day, and 堂 is a hall or large room. Perhaps in my weary state, I've concluded 天 + 堂 = Air routes/ Vast sky.
I was thinking of using "我们帆在天" before giving up and used Google translate instead which got me the 天堂. Would it have been better to use 天 alone or will it always be synonymous with death in one way or another?
Its a steering system based in eurotruck 2 as in using the mouse to steer the plane by roll input. First premiered in my DC-8-32 Eastern to fine tune taxi procedures. The text below is directly ripped from the post.
` Activate3 = 0 ? Yaw : Roll `
It's nothing fancy but it can be very convenient for PC users who can only steer
hard right/ left. This way, the nose gear can be controlled by a mouse or trackpad
like in Eurotruck 2 by activating group 3, and right clicking to enable mouse
control, by using Roll as an input since roll's axis traverses left to right.
UPDATE I:
Congratulations to the winners to my mini challenge guessing as to how
many parts this plane took which was 609 parts! Prizes will be awarded
some time until Mid 2022
or earlier.
1st - 668 parts @EugeneDumDum
2nd - 710 parts @Pane
3rd - 738 parts @SoloZero
Just don't discredit the original, and I'll allow it, the Cheapskate's Gear Tilt is only present on the 747-8i Transaero (TPAHCAEPO)
+1yeah conservation is great and all. But we kinda running out of materials, and unless these airframes can be re-engined with cleaner engines and restored to operational service, they be kinda useless.
+1@Mike667o
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+1อาจเกิดขึ้นหรือไม่
@Sinacraft Yes I have... A unique scenario since from experience, the upvote disparity is typically 30 when two aircraft are uploaded a day after each other.
+1@Mike667o
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+1@UnlistedPlanes before I consider, dm me on one of my decrepid aircraft publishes...
+1@AgentofFortune Ofc! Thank you.
+1Intriguing Idea UnlistedPlanes, though I am unqualified to form an opinion or criticism, perhaps appointing @MrSilverWolf and @jamesPLANESii could form a criticism or praise to this idea of yours.
To all involved parties, I apologise
+1@BurkeEnterprise Yep, and half-baking it just like the Capital.
+1@ND40X no this is BOAC
+1@Tang0five Oh itd be the dream to live in BC, sadly no. I live in the heartland of Canada, where its ran over by a drug crisis and general ghetto aura. Though we have polar bears so thats something.
+1@Mustang51, Im glad you like it, and so do the other users. Honestly my expectation for this project to take off is really low, since I am yet to see another ok SaRo Princess model on this site. And well, Flying Boats are not popular.
+1@BroAeronautics indeed it is
+1@Brields95 Pine trees grow on any altitude, there are a lot in the Canadian Shield region. And most common in the BC interior.
+1@areyougood There are three possible dates I deemed Appropriate,
Pride day celebrating the coming out, 22nd May
+1Canada day, 1st July
Louis Riel Day, 15th February 2021
@BurkeEnterprise no need but thank you, I am now working on a map based to where I actually live and is extremely familiar. Its loosely based from Gimli, Falcon Lake, and Kenora.
+1@AircraftoftheRedStar, should be. Unless your game is paused
+1@AircraftoftheRedStar, I used freecam
+1@ShootsPlanes Come to think of it, it is literally worth one baguette, if this was sold. A baguette costs 90 Eurocents in France, which runs for $1.37 CAD, costing about $0.98 USD. Using TD2 as basis, this is literally worth a baguette...
Hmmm...............
+1@Omel it honestly is, thank you
+1By the way, do not call yourself talent-less or your memes horrible. Not a lot can utilise simpleplanes as a 2D-art platform.
+1Not sure if this is of any help, but mute out the pressure, and distract yourself to just finish the build and move on, and not to think what people think of it. And also, modulating builds saves a lot of time and as well as simplifying quality control, so for builds, build the cockpit, Wings/undercarriage, tail assembly separately, then assemble them together. And hopefully, since you may have saved them as a subassembly, you could use them for later use, Custom engines from experience are the most utilised sub-assemblies, jet, prop, fan, combustion, steam. whatever. And modulating cockpit features such as instruments, dashboard, yoke/ stick, seats, misc. items, you name it can save at least a month's worth of agony over quality control.
But I digress, dont feel pressured. No one will shout at you for missing a bolt or rivet head in a build. Though if someone did, ignore them. or be petty and send them a link to sketchfab or equivalent.
+1so like inventor but mashed with simpleplanes?@vcharng
+1Very quaint art. It reminded me of the British Columbia interior or the mountains in Alberta.
+1@AndrewGarrison, would this be possible?
+1@GemYTryG use post img, upload photos to that website right, then copy the direct link. Once that happens type ! [ ] ( ) (spaces not included)onto the description of your plane then paste the direct link between the round brackets
+1@Tang0five yep, Low physics helps a lot
+1@MEERKAT978
+1Downloading planes via Data, 3G, or LTE actually only consumes six bytes
This is some serious gourmet shit!
You have talent ma’ guy. Do well,
+1Trial and error, and lots of Xml editing, usually test fly or set sail until the flying boat in question reaches take off speed, reduce weight of aircraft through reducing fuel, dead weight or xml editing again to ease the take off process. If your flying boat has engines mounted above the center of mass and rolls over at take off speed, set a part in the bows with buoyancy 100% with dead mass at 1000lbs, that way it may prevent a roll over@Blyatnov
+1@EternalDarkness it did have flaps, but was ommited to keep it mobile friendly.
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@klm747klm747
I dunno man, these are last year's problems now.🤣
But in seriousness though, I'm in for constructive critiques, I mean its one of the more effective ways one could reflect upon to further improve their builds, I am glad you brought up spoilerons to light, I didn't know they even existed, or if they're even universal to all aircraft, I'll code them in on the next opportunity if time allows, not exactly the type of person to cook up the perfect FT code by a finger's snap, but I'll get there eventually.
Now about the fairings, I promise they were meant to come off, and totally not hinting as to what's the next aircraft I'll work on.😅
@Tang0five
Tuning the engines didn't take much time, the two goals per se when tuning an engine thrust is that A) Takes off realistically, and B) Can reach Wikipedia Top Speed. There's more checks to check if the engine is realisticallishly tuned, but if A, and B are good, the rest generally checks out.
Sound-wise, it used to be easy. I discovered some years ago I think on my DC-8-32 Eastern project that sounds of the Blasto BFE150, and Blasto BFE300 creates a fuller sound, in essence BFE300 acts as treble for the high pitched sounds, and the BFE150 acts as bass, to simulate the sound of massive mass of air being pushed.
Sound-tuning got more in-depth when I posted my DC-8-32 Eastern Airlines to account for engine idling. Doesn't take long I feel, sound tuning was more or less eye-balled一 ear-balled if you will, whatever sounded the most sense for the given engine.
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@Ataru
Operating Manual Page 8.
@TimsonAviation
Its for PC users when taxiing the plane on the ground, kind of like the Mouse Steering in Euro Truck Simulator 2.
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@Tang0five
From the reference images, and first hand witness such as I, the Flag of China is indeed mirrored on starboard side of an Air China livery. At least, that is how I recollect it.
@Tang0five
I've been waiting forever for this since the first 747 I've built. Thank goodness windows no longer pose the biggest challenge to reduce part count.
@klm747klm747
I love your suggestions, and your dedication to build industrial grade planes for Simpleplanes, but Augusta is right. A majority of these are way too ambitious in the time restricted and time crunching time frame I was in even if it takes 10 seconds to add, because remember; I had to work on this Boeing 747-8i Transaero, Boeing 787-9 Air China, Washington & B.C, This Teaser Video, and everything else that was going on outside Simpleplanes all in the month of December and the fortnight leading up to it. Which is reaalllyy not easy to pull off.
Some of what you had said had considered adding days before Boxing day but otherwise dropped because there's not enough time; 2, 5, 8, 19
Others are unfair to be judged because of a typo, or the game's limitations, as it utilises default parts to save on part count sacrificing flexibility for stability: 21, 22, 26
1) Sounds a lot like NAV mode, when my only concern is to have the ability to manually control while in autopilot, and return to level flight after letting go of the yoke.
16) is a design choice I've stood by for two years, debuting in my Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle III Air France, it simplifies builds to a point that it is actually possible to whip up a wing assembly in two days, two days that would have became two months if I tried to do anything uber realistic, two months I never had at the time.
14) was present in my Boeing 727-200 NWO, no one noticed, omitted to the rest of my projects to save time since no one noticed it.
12, 15, 18) Would have required a set of landing gears that requires more than one rotator that will only work on MEDIUM or HIGH physics setting, settings I would avoid like the plague on the basis that not everyone can play in those settings. The current set of landing gears I have is good enough for the task they're entrusted to: to support the aircraft in any physics settings, and not bug out the game. I'll say it again; no to 12, 15, and 18, until Simpleplanes becomes optimised enough to support 12, 15, and 18 in low physics settings.
17, 19, 21) Calls for a FT coding that I do not yet possess the knowledge of.
20) Is a conscious decision to allow the plane to turn tightly, works best with AG3 on as it now steers like in Euro Truck Sim 2 as long as mouse control is enabled.
11) I've done before, looked weird, this sufficed
23) My only concern is to prohibit the plane from flying @ 90° pitch and gaining speed at the same time, any alterations I do makes the plane too slow or perform poorly at takeoff.
24) Its been calculated properly; 446,216lbs Loaded Weight - 268,317lbs Empty Weight = [177,899 lbs Fuel weight]. its 200 lbs more than displayed due to rounding numbers, otherwise, it weighs exactly as much as it should display.
9) Was supposed to be an easter egg to the actual 747 Transaero operates.
3) is an issue, I'll fix it right away
As for the GEnX-71B, its obviously a typo. What it meant to say was; GEnX-1B70 as it shares the same sub assembly as my 787-9 Air China to save time.
Not sure how nice you wanted this plane to be, but please understand that some users build planes not for the bourgeoise elite who can afford a beefy computer, but for the general masses to fly and experience. The ideas are good, but the executions in mobile could make the build falter.
@ren64
Indeed you can, as long as you give credit where the parts, and sub-assemblies originated from and who made them if its not your own.
I'm kind of curious as to how it'll turn out, tag me when you post it.
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@SyntheticL
Then let's hope my teacher won't see this. But in my defense, my Chinese is diminishing, the thumbnails were made in the late hours of the night and brainfarts are a common occurence, and from what I remember, 天 is something to do with sky or day, and 堂 is a hall or large room. Perhaps in my weary state, I've concluded 天 + 堂 = Air routes/ Vast sky.
I was thinking of using "我们帆在天" before giving up and used Google translate instead which got me the 天堂. Would it have been better to use 天 alone or will it always be synonymous with death in one way or another?
@Amirabadi
Its a steering system based in eurotruck 2 as in using the mouse to steer the plane by roll input. First premiered in my DC-8-32 Eastern to fine tune taxi procedures. The text below is directly ripped from the post.
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