Welcome
to my first challenge.
Goal: Create a WW2 inspired modern Air Superiority Fighter. All planes will be put up against my XF14 AI variant. Dedicated bombers or support aircraft are encouraged, but may not score as high. I will spend about 2hours per submission on evaluation.
Rules:
1: Must be a successor post
2: XML modding is allowed, but must be with-in reason. IE no unlimited fuel, unrealistic weapons, infinite countermeasures ect.
2a: Mods are ok as long as they dont cheat.
3: Plane must take style notes from WW2 era aircraft. I would prefer propeller based, but jets will be allowed
4: All planes will be put up against op plane in dog fight, both piloted by AI, no missiles or extra fuel stores for this test. Just dog fighting.
5: Use of parts or weapons from op plane is allowed with-in reason.
6: Deadline is the end of August, I am flexible if you need more time.
Prizes:
1st place = Amazon gift card for 20$
2nd place = 10 upvotes
All entries will receive 1 upvote.
You will be evaluated based on the following criteria:
Appearance
1-10 pts a. WWII Era Style (How much it looks like the style)
1-5 pts b. Paint
1-5 pts c. Build Quality (How well it is constructed)
1-5 pts d. Creativity (wing designs ect)
1-10 pts e. Presence (sleek or aggressive)
1-5 pts f. Cockpit Design
__/40 ptsFunctionality
1-10 pts a. Flight Characteristics (flight speed, stall speed, agility)
1-3 pts b. Sturdiness (buggyness, health, stability)
1-5 pts c. Controls (ease of use)
1-10 pts d. Complexity (higher is better)
1-5 pts e. Endurance (fuel mileage)
1-2 pts f. Additional features
__/35 ptsManeuverability
1-5 pts a. Turning Radius
1-5 pts b. Handling (mode toggling is allowed)
1-5 pts c. Combat Effectiveness
1-5 pts d. Racing Effectiveness
1-3 pts e. Speed Factor (while turning)
__/23 ptsArmament
1-12 pts a. Air to Ground Payload
1-10 pts b. Air to Air Payload
1-5 pts c. Multi-role Effectiveness
1-10 pts d. Load Performance
1-2 pts e. Tsar Bomb Carry
1-2 pts f. Countermeasure Implementation
__/41 ptsRoles (minimum of 1 required)
1-3 pts a. Carrier (hook)
1-3 pts b. Amphibious
1-3 pts c. Land
1-3 pts d. VTOL
1-3 pts e. Stealth (appearance, audio)
1-10 pts f. Transformation
__/25 ptsTest Results
Time a. Ocean view Race time
Time b. Daredevil Race time
Time c. Indy Race time
Grade d. Dog fight w/ missiles result
Grade e. Dog fight w/o missiles result
XF-14 AI
The AI variant of my XF-14 removed many of the plane features to save on parts count.
Demo Videos
Intro
Combat
Jet/Car mode
Tsar Bomb
Controls
Ag1:Flaps, high maneuvering mode. Control w pitch and trim.
Ag2:On+Vtol up=fold wings./On+Vtol down=Extend Wings./On+gear down=Deploy Hook. Brake activates engine in hook to slam it to the ground for carrier landing./On+gear up=Deploy winglets for water mode. Wing position lockable with Ag2.
Ag3:Gyro on/Vtol up 75% for hover mode. 100% for engine stow. Lockable with Ag3. Can use Gyro to get out of flat spin.
Ag4:Driving gyro on/Deploy car wheels. Vtol to adjust ride height./ On+Ag8off=fold tail./On+trim up=gravity generator.
Ag5:Drop all wing ordinance and fuel pods. Note the float pods stay. Cannot be used to dumb fire missiles.
Ag6:Aux engine mode. Drop Jet engine plugs and open air intake.
Ag7:Prop pitch, control with Vtol. Can be reversed./On+brake=Drag rotor deploy. Can be locked with Ag7.
Ag8:Engines/Beacons. Off+Ag4=tail fold.
Modes
Default to Hover
1:AG3 On
2:Vtol to 60%Up (marked by red arrow in cockpit)
3:Throttle to 30% for lift off, round 20% will hover depending on current weight
4:Gear up
Arrestor Hook
1:Set up your landing. Gear down, Flaps down, 5% Throttle 230Mph target
2:Hook down (AG2, dont use air brakes). Vtol down to extend wings for extra lift (optional)
3:Land on deck target speed is 140mph, make sure your coming in from above or the hook will catch the end of the carrier.
4:BRAKE, For easier landing drop the weapons AG5.
Flight to Sea
1:Gear up
2:AG2 On others Off
3:Vtol zero
4:Land on water. AG1+Trim for flaps
Note: Landing must be soft or missiles will get wet.
Water Skimmer
1:Zero Vtol
2:AG1 On+Trim Up half way
3:AG3&7 On (optional)
4:Max safe speed 450mph, Brake rotor for reverse.
Weapons:
ATG:
3 AGM-65 Maverick (cleaver)
4 Torpedos
72 Boom25 Bomblets
2 Boom50 Bomb pods (Ag2 to enable)
6 Infernos
34 Rockets
ATA:
2 AIM54C Phoenix (interceptor)
6 Guardians
2 Interceptors
Guns:
2 GAU19A 6 Barrel 50cal Autocannons. 6000rpm each.
Ordinance weight: 18567lbs (including 3530lbs for fuelpods)
Max take off weight: 190000lbs
Can carry Tsar Bomb
Specifications
Spotlights
- amazingperson124 5.7 years ago
- hopotumon 5.7 years ago
- Chancey21 5.7 years ago
General Characteristics
- Predecessor XF-14 MRF v.2 (Read Description)
- Successors 8 airplane(s) +1147 bonus
- Created On Android
- Wingspan 68.2ft (20.8m)
- Length 49.2ft (15.0m)
- Height 15.2ft (4.6m)
- Empty Weight 33,761lbs (15,313kg)
- Loaded Weight 43,079lbs (19,540kg)
Performance
- Power/Weight Ratio 2.921
- Horse Power/Weight Ratio 1.392
- Wing Loading 27.5lbs/ft2 (134.1kg/m2)
- Wing Area 1,568.0ft2 (145.7m2)
- Drag Points 14251
Parts
- Number of Parts 516
- Control Surfaces 22
- Performance Cost 2,630
I relased a new plane, mate. I hope you will enjoy it, I get a lot of fun flying this.
4 T1000 for a total of 4000 HP give the power to carry a lot of payloads, mix them as you prefer.
Consider the second one the real entry, if you can. If not, enjoy it as it is. :)
@RodWan OK
@Baldovino I'll check it out soon as I can. Check out the results to see what you're up against.
Entered. :D
I think i will try a jet
You know, i might give it a go again :) @RodWan
@Chancey21 @RamboJutter deadline is somewhat flexible, set for end of August as of now. There is a 20$ first prize, thats why its so in depth.
@RodWan woot if I remember I'll submit something, is it limited to 1 entry? When's the deadline?
Less stuff, just like five catagories scored 1-10 like this one@RodWan
@Chancey21 can you be more specific? It's less rules as much as scoring criteria. By no means do you have to follow everything to the tee, you could decide to max out a certain niche at the expense of another. I'm not expecting anyone to make a masterpiece in a month and like I said the timeline can be adjusted if need be. I spent almost a year on and off working on my design, kept coming back to it and improving things once I learned something new. The point was to try and make something equivalent in style and premise not get a perfect score, and it would largely be impossible to even get. I designed to scoring based on what the XF14 can do and it didn't get a perfect score so that should tell you something. Anyway, what were you wanting to be adjusted?
Cut back on rules and I’ll enter but to even qualify it will take me months @RodWan
@Tacocat16 I respect your decision, however. I disagree with the reasoning. If you need more experience then wouldn't it behoove you to participate in a challenge where your creation will be critiqued at a high level of scrutiny? That will give you good feedback to hone your skills. Either way thanks for the upvote ;)
@Chancey21 I really like complicated stuff, as long as it's stream lined. :D
Oh gosh way to complicated for me
I have descided not to do this. Sorry, but i think i need way more experience
@FarrowTECH Rules have been updated.
@FarrowTECH What's your aversion on props anyway? Is there some reason your design needs to have a jet instead of a prop? The op plane has both. You could do something like use one for Vtol, or other creative ways to incorperate it. Eitherway I'm not expecting anyone to get full marks on this challenge, the categories are pretty diverce. If you focus in on a approparetly styled craft that uses jets I'll be fair. But if it looks like a F14 or F22 then that is a different style and not to focus of this challenge. It could still win though. It would only loose points on WW2 style category, just so we're clear.
@FarrowTECH thats based on it looking like a ww2 fighter or not. The grading criteria is listed, it needs to look like a plane of that time. If you can pull that off without a prop then fine. My view is that the jets in ww2 didn't look like the prop planes. The point is it needs to look like the prop planes not the jets.
You said you’d remove a point if i used jets...@RodWan
@FarrowTECH I never said it didnt. Who are you arguing against? Use jets if you want, no one is stopping you.
Or the de haviland vampire
Or the messerschmit me-262
For example (the MIG)
Ww2 did have jet engines dude@RodWan
@FarrowTECH the point is to have the old school feel to the planes but not restrict the technology. But I dont want modern-day looking planes. So we'll just say I'm open to discussing it.