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114k 1918  3.6 years ago

The other day I made Haneda Airport Terminal 1 as my own creation. As the name suggests, it's a replica of Haneda Airport. But now, a plug-in mod has been created and published as a different airport with a completely different name.
Certainly, modding of public works should be free. But at the same time, the original work should be respected. I didn't want to create an airport with the name on the mod page, I wanted to create Haneda Airport itself.
The author of that mod took my Haneda Airport as 3D data and claimed it was a different airport, even though it clearly looks like Haneda Airport. Is there any respect for the mod source there? I wanted to build the Haneda Airport, not the airport that the mod claims to have built.
To me it looks like he used my work to save himself the hassle of building an airport terminal building when he built his MOD. I can't see any respect for my Haneda Airport Terminal 1 there, and it looks like he just changed the name and claimed it as something else.
Anyway, I built Haneda Airport, and there is no reason for it to be claimed as an irrelevant airport without any modifications.
It is true that he is free to make changes to his works, so his actions are not against the rules. However, a feeling of displeasure and discomfort surrounds me, whether I should call it a moral issue or not.

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    66.6k SnoWFLakE0s

    @1918
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    Apparently he did change your work. Slightly, but still. Creating maps still take effort, and I don't see how being under a different denomination is such an issue. Perhaps you can clarify.

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    114k 1918

    Yes, it would be fine if he had changed my work.
    That's exactly what I did, to the extent that you can't tell it's Haneda Airport.
    But in his case, he didn't even have that.
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    66.6k SnoWFLakE0s

    Supposedly, the model has been modified to some extent- if that is indeed the case, then I think your point regarding how the mod uses the same model is invalid. I cannot verify this, however.

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    114k 1918

    Wouldn't it be unpleasant to see your work uploaded under a completely different name, even though you didn't alter it at all?
    I built Haneda Airport, not anything else. So if your mod airport has been modified to a level where you don't know if it's Haneda Airport or not, or if it's created as a plug-in mod for Haneda Airport, there's no problem, but what if it's exactly the same as Haneda Airport, but uploaded as a different airport?
    I didn't want to create an imaginary airport. But I don't like it when people claim it's another airport when it's Haneda Airport for all intents and purposes.
    He was right under the rules. But I don't think there is any respect for the original work. Since I created the real Haneda Airport, I was irritated by his actions of calling himself a different airport even though it was unmodified. So it's a matter of morality.

    Certainly, there's nothing wrong with his behavior under the rules.

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    3.6 years ago
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    Mod Squirrel

    As per the comment below, I've asked them to re-upload the mod to include you as a co-creator so you gain points from the mod.
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    In my personal opinion, it makes sense to include it as a mod for the convenience of players so you don't have to repeatedly spawn in a build upon starting the map. But I do think it's unfair that you don't benefit in terms of points from the mod despite contributing to it.
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    I think this is a fair resolution as you both benefit from the outcome. If you feel the situation isn't resolved, feel free to let me know and we can discuss the matter further.

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    35.7k ThePilotDude

    Apparently Squirrel told kakhi he could re-upload the mod if he gave 1918 credit, and I hope he does, that looked like a cool mod

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    35.7k ThePilotDude

    Given that he gave credit and sent a contributer invitation, (at least eventually) I don't see why this had to be taken down

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    It was bad deal

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    Plagiarism rip

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    Tbh man, it's not really THAT big of a deal. It's ok for someone to use your build in a mod, credit you, and it be changed and called something different. He did credit you (I saw before it got taken down), so what is really the problem? There's literally no reason to get offended and call this a "moral issue". Just let people bee, once it's on the internet it's kinda free game for anyone to use, no matter how much you claim to own it.

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    no

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    Mod DeezDucks

    @AnotherPlayer According to site rules you can't take someones work and repost it without credit, and I'm pretty sure this applies to mods too.

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    Technically you don’t own what you make so the mod maker isn’t in the wrong

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    101k Wallaby

    Just because something is on SP doesnt mean its "free use". If you dont like him using your assets without your permission, you can have the post removed or ask him to change the mod.

    3.6 years ago