@ZFM99 I always like your style dude. Sadly I age been engaged with the family all day. Gotta keep em happy. Should be working on thibgs for you to test either tonight or tomorrow night. That's often the only time I get to dedicate to this kind of thing. In fact. I already have a challenge for you. ... look through my planes, and find a yellow one called lightning bolt. If you can fly that well I would love to see the video. As for the explosion, I can't be sure. It didn't look the the dreaded vibrations that happen sometimes. Maby my design was a bit too wacky.
@ahappyape thanks again Sir. I was surprised too, too some balancing having all of that loft up front, Hense the reason it stalls. So far as the test goes, I understand that detachers can be used to keep non structural wings attached at high speed. So, if you were to use those modded engines to push this past 2000mph, where they would normally rip off, the idea is they stay on. I still used structural wings at the front just because I wanted to work up to that point, this is just a step towards this, but it's looking good. hopefully we can begin to produce really maneuverable aircraft at silly speeds without having to compromise pitch and roll at low speeds utilising this method and we could potentially utilise normal primary wings with normal control surfaces, rather than having to group them at to the back to maintain integrity.
@ahappyape good morning chap. thank you kindly for the rating and feedback, i'll have a play around with it some more see if I can get rid of thr stall issue. I was surprised how much it can cope with to be honest, not sure if it's a consequence some how of the desig.
@ZFM99 mate your videos rule! Can't believe you recovered that other flat spin in the yellow plane, very nice. Yea I stalled this a few times. It seems to do so too easily. I initially cut the control surface size back a lot which helped, but wanted to leave it over controllable vs under controllable, i love the ability to flick it round and up, and not quite know if I will be able to make it. Yet again buddy your rating and feedback are close to godliness.
@ZFM99 lol. Dude you can't think like that. Have you seen my first planes? They were either copies with spikey wings and nothing else, or unflyable atrocities. It's all gotta start somewhere. Still lol at your comment t though, not its meaning, just your usual delivery with style
@ABC123 I will always be genuine chap, I know sometimes I come across as perhaps over enthused, but I do value your input and I find that even simple additions or thoughts make me think, and will always contribute to the whole, that's aside, I am thankful that you did create that pioneer plane, I will make a note to download and tinker with it. As you say it's great when up high, but rather tedious at low altitude. All the best mate
@ABC123 thank you for your input sir. I will always be continually learning, and to have your advise is always welcome. I had assumed there would come a point that it it would no longer become useful and there for counter productive, your experience yells us it will add but as you say only useful as high altitude. This is expect is true in the real world too, given the air is thinner. Thanks again sir, nice to hear from you
@ahappyape agreed, hence my often reluctance to upload unfinished work or something I'm not happy with. Have done before but it does nothing for me, and I'd hate to add to any spam
@ahappyape Yea, agreed. Would like another project To get stuck into. ill see if I can get something done with the last few hours of today, no promises though sir.
@ZFM99 @ahappyape you know it a dam shame the three of us can't share an account, just imagine it. We build, design, test, redesign, retest, fettle, then publish. Only the perfect end product would sent out there. anyway with that not a possibility I do think the process so far has been most enlightening. Thanks to you both. Just look at what has come out of this.
@ahappyape agreed dude, there are a lot of golden oldie lovers out there. Each to their of course but I totally agree. I love the freedom this offers you, and I can't help but look to the future. As for what's next. I have no idea. I'd say you and I are alike in that we will free form design, work and perfect what we come up with as we go.
@ZFM99 well sir, you will have my backing whatever you do, your a good bloke. You know I follow you, eagerly awaiting anything you produce, if your flying skills and design critique are anything to go by, you should try anything. I'd bet it would work.
@ahappyape I am kinda sad, I really do love your designs and the clean lines and minimal fuss, plus lost of angles makes for a good plane every time. My version of your plane totally ruined the looK, I gave it an Ugley face.. lol. You know what I mean though. Very weird that removing the middle wing helps pitch?? I can only think that it is having to overcome less surface area to move, giving you sharper movement. Either way this has been really fun and a total learning exercise for me, thank you for all of your effort chap.
@ahappyape here you go dude. Really hope this might provide us with some answers. To be honest I'm such a fan of your design work, I hope I'm wrong. All the best to you Kind sir
@ahappyape right, I have now had a really good go with this. And I really, can't find fault. I find this a total joy to fly, and the addition of yaw control really offers some fine control in a roll. I am staggered as to how much of a stamp you put on this, if I could I would make planes as you redesign mine!! Only reason I could guess at what you see as loss of speed (again I'm sorry, it is not a criticism) is inlets. If you fly the origional, look at the colour of the jet flame, then compare to yours. I hate myself for saying that again as it seem s like I'm just saying it as I don't know the answer, that's really not what I'm getting at, your design and build is always staggering. See what you think sir.
@shadowfalcon14 hi again sir. If you search for planes on this site, sort by highest rated this week. You should come across an engine uploaded by Zing2000. Please give him a rating for his work.
@ZFM99 thanks so much again mate, you are very always very much involved in helping me improve and you Kind ratings always give me more exposure, I am indebted to you sir. All the best
It's 5 stars for looks alone mate. I'll see if I can fix it, and then I'll let you know. This really is a total redo and I am really enjoying your style Buddy. Keep it going sir
@shadowfalcon14 evening to you sir. Well this plane uses modded engines. I am unsure how or who created them. But they output a stupendous amount of power. All the best
@DADOU thank you chap! I really appreciate you saying that sir. I think it's my favorite of late, i'm lucky the way it came together in the end, I try and be design lead; if you know what I mean by that. Thanks mate
@humangrenade hi chap. I'll try, tough to make a craft that can be all three. One or two out there, but I would like to put my own style in it one I guess. Most likely requires more skill than I have. All the best to you sir
@DADOU, thanks you so very much sir. By the way I was not being arrogant in thinking you had intended 5 stars, I was more than happy with your rating, I only thought it may have been a mistake given your comment. Again thank you chap. All the best to you
Yes dude. Love this. Soooooo close to the real one its Crazy. Must have taken an age to blend and design all of the fuselage parts. Well done sir. Really appreciate your planes
Thank you again sir. Much obliged. All the best. On a side note; if you do track back the origins of the modded jet, please do keep me in the loop. I share the same intrigue, though honestly I would guess I haven't got the skills to create one myself; none the less I would be interested in the method, as that could be applied to various other parts of this. My best guess: part clipping; something I don't do Myself, though I know it's use is almost ubiquitous on here.
@ElijtheGeat Ahhhhhhh I've seen a couple of planes using detachers with the main wings. Thank you for that bit if info. Hope to use it. All the best sir
@ZFM99 again dude I'd be charmed to have any input from you, and considering your skills I am sure you can provide a useful critique to anyone. Would also love to see some more from you.
@ahappyape totally agreed, there is always something satisfying in taking one design and then changing it to suit your style. The challenge is you are constrained by the origional so have to work around or with it, and it makes you think. All the best chap.
How did I miss this one! It's a piece of art. Totally my favorite style of plane, sharp angles and futuristic looking feel to it. Handling is superb and really the look for me wins. Please keep up with this kind of style.
@ElijtheGeat evening again sir. the engine I use I distinctly recall being a stand alone upload, as I hadn't taken them off an existing, thst much I am certain of. Yes, I had the exact Same issue myself with planes seemingly self destructing at high speed. The only reason I could put this down to was non structural wings giving up on me. The couple of designs I have uploaded this week are an attempt at overcoming this very issue. The trick it to use any drag facing wings as structural, this solved that one issue. Of course the consequence of this is you loose all ability to turn or pitch given any non structural wing; no matter it's placement will either tear off or cause the plane to explode. Again these couple of planes offer a solution to this issue, using sweapt wings all within or on top of the chassis of the plane. After many tries I found that any non structural wing will come off if put anywhere other than right at the back and not outside of the width of the planes main body. Now I don't assume that I have tried and tested every combination of structural and non structural wings so thus may be just an over generalisation, and there could be a better solution out there, but perhaps a good starting point. All the best sir
Of all your gliders mate, this is my favorite. (I recon you can guess why) I know it's a challenge to fly, but it's a dream when you get some height on the go, and as usual with your aircraft controls are sharp and responsive, which is a little suprising considering the size of this thing. Nice job sir
@SemedolasPT. Again sir you are too good to me. You know I really appreciate your continual support. Thanks very much mate. Hope you have a good one chap.
@ahappyape thank you for your rating again chap, really honestly appreciate your support. Yes. I really did genuinely play around with the pink colours as I did quite like it, but thought it best I keep to a combination of my default design colours, just to satisfy the peeve I have now developed for continuity. BUT there is a n nodd to you with this model as I was particularly taken with the look of you fantastic modded version of my last plane I just had to include a nose or two as you did. My gratitude for that inspiration sir. All the best
@ZFM99 I always like your style dude. Sadly I age been engaged with the family all day. Gotta keep em happy. Should be working on thibgs for you to test either tonight or tomorrow night. That's often the only time I get to dedicate to this kind of thing. In fact. I already have a challenge for you. ... look through my planes, and find a yellow one called lightning bolt. If you can fly that well I would love to see the video. As for the explosion, I can't be sure. It didn't look the the dreaded vibrations that happen sometimes. Maby my design was a bit too wacky.
@humangrenade Hia chap. I will be mate. That's going to take some serious work though.
Good god I hate my phone. "TOOK some balancing having all that LIFT up front"
@ahappyape thanks again Sir. I was surprised too, too some balancing having all of that loft up front, Hense the reason it stalls. So far as the test goes, I understand that detachers can be used to keep non structural wings attached at high speed. So, if you were to use those modded engines to push this past 2000mph, where they would normally rip off, the idea is they stay on. I still used structural wings at the front just because I wanted to work up to that point, this is just a step towards this, but it's looking good. hopefully we can begin to produce really maneuverable aircraft at silly speeds without having to compromise pitch and roll at low speeds utilising this method and we could potentially utilise normal primary wings with normal control surfaces, rather than having to group them at to the back to maintain integrity.
@ahappyape good morning chap. thank you kindly for the rating and feedback, i'll have a play around with it some more see if I can get rid of thr stall issue. I was surprised how much it can cope with to be honest, not sure if it's a consequence some how of the desig.
@ZFM99 mate your videos rule! Can't believe you recovered that other flat spin in the yellow plane, very nice. Yea I stalled this a few times. It seems to do so too easily. I initially cut the control surface size back a lot which helped, but wanted to leave it over controllable vs under controllable, i love the ability to flick it round and up, and not quite know if I will be able to make it. Yet again buddy your rating and feedback are close to godliness.
@ZFM99 lol. Dude you can't think like that. Have you seen my first planes? They were either copies with spikey wings and nothing else, or unflyable atrocities. It's all gotta start somewhere. Still lol at your comment t though, not its meaning, just your usual delivery with style
@ZFM99 I had you in mind for this one dude. Should give your finer flying skills a good test
@ZFM99 yes dude. can't wait for your plane! Skype all sorted (via the xbox one) . But ill have to get online smother time. I'm nackered.
@ABC123 hahaha. I'll give it a go nevertheless.
@ZFM99 agreed dude!!
@ABC123 I will always be genuine chap, I know sometimes I come across as perhaps over enthused, but I do value your input and I find that even simple additions or thoughts make me think, and will always contribute to the whole, that's aside, I am thankful that you did create that pioneer plane, I will make a note to download and tinker with it. As you say it's great when up high, but rather tedious at low altitude. All the best mate
@ABC123 thank you for your input sir. I will always be continually learning, and to have your advise is always welcome. I had assumed there would come a point that it it would no longer become useful and there for counter productive, your experience yells us it will add but as you say only useful as high altitude. This is expect is true in the real world too, given the air is thinner. Thanks again sir, nice to hear from you
@ahappyape agreed, hence my often reluctance to upload unfinished work or something I'm not happy with. Have done before but it does nothing for me, and I'd hate to add to any spam
@ZFM99 sure I HAD Skype a long time ago. will see if I can dig out my details and reinstall
@ahappyape Yea, agreed. Would like another project To get stuck into. ill see if I can get something done with the last few hours of today, no promises though sir.
@ZFM99 @ahappyape you know it a dam shame the three of us can't share an account, just imagine it. We build, design, test, redesign, retest, fettle, then publish. Only the perfect end product would sent out there. anyway with that not a possibility I do think the process so far has been most enlightening. Thanks to you both. Just look at what has come out of this.
You have reached nirvana my friend. What a beast! !
@ZFM99 any time dude. Either way your a dam good pilot, i'll always look to you for a reliable critique.
@ahappyape agreed dude, there are a lot of golden oldie lovers out there. Each to their of course but I totally agree. I love the freedom this offers you, and I can't help but look to the future. As for what's next. I have no idea. I'd say you and I are alike in that we will free form design, work and perfect what we come up with as we go.
@ZFM99 well sir, you will have my backing whatever you do, your a good bloke. You know I follow you, eagerly awaiting anything you produce, if your flying skills and design critique are anything to go by, you should try anything. I'd bet it would work.
@ahappyape I am kinda sad, I really do love your designs and the clean lines and minimal fuss, plus lost of angles makes for a good plane every time. My version of your plane totally ruined the looK, I gave it an Ugley face.. lol. You know what I mean though. Very weird that removing the middle wing helps pitch?? I can only think that it is having to overcome less surface area to move, giving you sharper movement. Either way this has been really fun and a total learning exercise for me, thank you for all of your effort chap.
@ahappyape @ZFM99, I have all faith that ZFM will be able to figure out which has given us the best performance, let's let the man decide.
@ZFM99 you my man, are a legend
@ahappyape here you go dude. Really hope this might provide us with some answers. To be honest I'm such a fan of your design work, I hope I'm wrong. All the best to you Kind sir
@ahappyape I'm all over it buddy. Successor to your plane about to be posted.
@ahappyape right, I have now had a really good go with this. And I really, can't find fault. I find this a total joy to fly, and the addition of yaw control really offers some fine control in a roll. I am staggered as to how much of a stamp you put on this, if I could I would make planes as you redesign mine!! Only reason I could guess at what you see as loss of speed (again I'm sorry, it is not a criticism) is inlets. If you fly the origional, look at the colour of the jet flame, then compare to yours. I hate myself for saying that again as it seem s like I'm just saying it as I don't know the answer, that's really not what I'm getting at, your design and build is always staggering. See what you think sir.
@shadowfalcon14 hi again sir. If you search for planes on this site, sort by highest rated this week. You should come across an engine uploaded by Zing2000. Please give him a rating for his work.
@ZFM99 thanks so much again mate, you are very always very much involved in helping me improve and you Kind ratings always give me more exposure, I am indebted to you sir. All the best
It's 5 stars for looks alone mate. I'll see if I can fix it, and then I'll let you know. This really is a total redo and I am really enjoying your style Buddy. Keep it going sir
@shadowfalcon14 evening to you sir. Well this plane uses modded engines. I am unsure how or who created them. But they output a stupendous amount of power. All the best
@humangrenade will do sir, thanks for your words of encouragement.
@SemedolasPT thank you again mate. You do keep me going buddy. Still working on a glider for you by the way.
@DADOU thank you chap! I really appreciate you saying that sir. I think it's my favorite of late, i'm lucky the way it came together in the end, I try and be design lead; if you know what I mean by that. Thanks mate
@humangrenade hi chap. I'll try, tough to make a craft that can be all three. One or two out there, but I would like to put my own style in it one I guess. Most likely requires more skill than I have. All the best to you sir
@DADOU, thanks you so very much sir. By the way I was not being arrogant in thinking you had intended 5 stars, I was more than happy with your rating, I only thought it may have been a mistake given your comment. Again thank you chap. All the best to you
@DADOU your comment betrays your rating?. Either way. Thank you sir :)
Yes dude. Love this. Soooooo close to the real one its Crazy. Must have taken an age to blend and design all of the fuselage parts. Well done sir. Really appreciate your planes
@ZFM99 Cheers buddy. Honoured. =) you the man
Thank you again sir. Much obliged. All the best. On a side note; if you do track back the origins of the modded jet, please do keep me in the loop. I share the same intrigue, though honestly I would guess I haven't got the skills to create one myself; none the less I would be interested in the method, as that could be applied to various other parts of this. My best guess: part clipping; something I don't do Myself, though I know it's use is almost ubiquitous on here.
@ElijtheGeat Ahhhhhhh I've seen a couple of planes using detachers with the main wings. Thank you for that bit if info. Hope to use it. All the best sir
@JerryM Thank you for your rating Jerry, very good of you indeed. All the best.
@SantaFe Thank you very much for your rating chap. Much obliged to you. All the best
@ZFM99 again dude I'd be charmed to have any input from you, and considering your skills I am sure you can provide a useful critique to anyone. Would also love to see some more from you.
@ahappyape totally agreed, there is always something satisfying in taking one design and then changing it to suit your style. The challenge is you are constrained by the origional so have to work around or with it, and it makes you think. All the best chap.
How did I miss this one! It's a piece of art. Totally my favorite style of plane, sharp angles and futuristic looking feel to it. Handling is superb and really the look for me wins. Please keep up with this kind of style.
@ElijtheGeat evening again sir. the engine I use I distinctly recall being a stand alone upload, as I hadn't taken them off an existing, thst much I am certain of. Yes, I had the exact Same issue myself with planes seemingly self destructing at high speed. The only reason I could put this down to was non structural wings giving up on me. The couple of designs I have uploaded this week are an attempt at overcoming this very issue. The trick it to use any drag facing wings as structural, this solved that one issue. Of course the consequence of this is you loose all ability to turn or pitch given any non structural wing; no matter it's placement will either tear off or cause the plane to explode. Again these couple of planes offer a solution to this issue, using sweapt wings all within or on top of the chassis of the plane. After many tries I found that any non structural wing will come off if put anywhere other than right at the back and not outside of the width of the planes main body. Now I don't assume that I have tried and tested every combination of structural and non structural wings so thus may be just an over generalisation, and there could be a better solution out there, but perhaps a good starting point. All the best sir
Of all your gliders mate, this is my favorite. (I recon you can guess why) I know it's a challenge to fly, but it's a dream when you get some height on the go, and as usual with your aircraft controls are sharp and responsive, which is a little suprising considering the size of this thing. Nice job sir
@SemedolasPT. Again sir you are too good to me. You know I really appreciate your continual support. Thanks very much mate. Hope you have a good one chap.
@ahappyape thank you for your rating again chap, really honestly appreciate your support. Yes. I really did genuinely play around with the pink colours as I did quite like it, but thought it best I keep to a combination of my default design colours, just to satisfy the peeve I have now developed for continuity. BUT there is a n nodd to you with this model as I was particularly taken with the look of you fantastic modded version of my last plane I just had to include a nose or two as you did. My gratitude for that inspiration sir. All the best