As @ForeverPie said, they aren't all-knowing. There are things on the SR2 site that should've been removed that stayed up for sometimes months before I even know about them and subsequently dealt with them. The only way they can really know about it is if something is either reported using the report button, or a moderator sees a comment saying "I'm posting this on my alt account" on a hot topic and decides to check the IP of said alt account to see who it belongs to, and then check if they're cheating the point system. The mods do of course investigate stuff on their own as well without reports or hot topics, but generally that's harder to do and is often more trouble than it's worth.
@sheepsblood First off, thank you for your service. Second, yes the Off Topic tag exists, however, that does not mean that you can just go around posting whatever you want there. The rules state that while off-topic posts are allowed, the moderators reserve the right to remove a post if it is too off-topic and/or is bound to start an argument.
Please, remember that this is a game about airplanes. While we do allow off-topic conversations in the forums, if you talk about religion or politics then there is a good chance that your post will be removed. Especially if we feel that it is likely to stir up debate.
I understand your reasoning here, but at the end of the day the moderators deemed it too far off-topic/too political to stay up. It's not discrimination -- it's the moderators doing their best to make sure this forum stays a civil and fun place.
. Edit: The comment this was a response to seems to have been removed by the user who posted it
@sheepsblood I mean, you're the one complaining that your post got deleted, no? I'm a moderator on the SimpleRockets site, so I know a lot of how this place is moderated and that your post was bound to be deleted at some point.
I don't come here very often but my main issue with this game's community is that people can't seem to get along. It always seems like there's some kind of drama happening 24/7. I get that this tends to happen with larger communities, but still.
I feel like submitting something to this would, in a way, fall under the "don't ask for upvotes" rule. Just in a much more subtle way than simply asking would.
@Spikerya As mods we aren't meant to uphold a "moral code", we aren't Jedi. We are supposed to uphold the rules. If someone isn't breaking any rules, then chances are they won't receive any repercussions for whatever it is they're doing. I also don't see how Mattangi's craft ripped off RU's car. It was a normal successor and nothing about it warranted deletion, which is why it's still up despite RU making a big deal out of it.
As a moderator on the SR2 site I feel I should share my own thoughts on this matter:
I don't think permission should be required to make a successor to someone's craft, nor is it up to the original creator to decide if a successor post is enough of an "improvement" to stay up unless a moderator specifically says otherwise. The rules state this:
It is okay to download someone else's airplane, make some tweaks, and re-upload a new variation.
In fact, the original designer may even receive bonus points.
However, if your variation does not offer any improvements over the existing airplane, then it may be removed.
As you may have noticed, nowhere does it say you need any permission. Yes, it's nicer to ask, but that's just a courtesy and not a requirement. If you feel offended over a successor post then, sorry, but that's not really the uploader's problem. It is up to the moderators to decide if a post should be removed, not the original creator of said post. If you think a post violates the rules, please report it rather than try to take matters into your own hands.
He most likely resigned due to personal issues. He did the same on the SimpleRockets website, the SRC, and presumably SPBC, though him leaving SPBC was more because it was really toxic than anything else. Just give him space.
@TheCreatorandDestroyer99 The problem is that one could copy that link, paste it into one of their crafts, and disguise it as something else so when someone clicks said link, the uploader essentially gets free points.
@WhiteKyuremGaming If you read the post I linked to you'd see it isn't exactly that simple. The scripting backend has to be changed from one that supports mods to one that doesn't because of the 64bit requirement.
Considering Apple's TOS doesn't allow mods, and that future versions of SimplePlanes on Android won't support mods, it is very unlikely that iOS will ever have mod support.
@MrPorg137 Not super low. I raise and lower them depending on what I'm doing, but I have the shaders, normal mapping, and part textures all on high and it works fine. Pretty much everything else is on low or medium.
As someone who has owned SR2 on PC since launch day, and as a beta tester for the mobile version, I can tell you that it is most certainly something to look forward to.
In my opinion, it's okay to pirate games from terrible AAA companies like EA and not pay for them even if you do like the game. As well as pirating a game to demo it; that's fine too. But pirating an Indie game or a AAA game from a developer that actually listens to its community (the ones that come to mind are Bungie and 343i) without the intention of actually buying the game is just not okay.
@Jim1the1Squid @Nickr Considering the PC beta testing for SR2 locked you out of the game after beta testing was over, I don't think you'll be able to keep it when beta testing is over on Mobile. You'll probably have to buy the game afterwards if you want to keep playing it.
Considering I'm homeschooled, this "advice" isn't very useful. Even if I wasn't homeschooled, It'd still be useless because this isn't a good way to go about life.
For me, nothing will beat the SR-71 until there is a manned jet that outperforms it, and looks cooler than the SR-71. So far, that hasn't happened yet.
@Brields95 So 2 games aren't allowed to be separate from one another? Yeah, sure. I don't need your input here. All I'm asking is to keep your SR2 hate on here. Don't just go to SR2's forums just to blindly hate on it and its community for even daring to think that SR2 is a good game. Also, this is coming from someone who plays both games.
One thing to also keep in mind about SR2, is that it is overshadowed by its big brother, KSP. Meanwhile SP for the most part doesn't have any competition other than SR2.
@FreeRangedLemon You are clearly missing my point here. I am not saying SimpleRockets 2 is alive, I am asking you to stop going to the SimpleRockets website just to hate on the game without any actual criticism.
@Jetpackturtle I think part of the reason SimplePlanes had such a high player count at launch is because it launched as a mobile game and thus most of its playerbase is on mobile. You do make a good point (unlike some other people..) but I think part of the reason the player count is so low compared to SP at the moment is due to not being on mobile yet. I think once mobile is released (which is looking like that will be in late August or early September) then the amount of people playing will be much higher.
@IStoleYourMeme That's the SP bias speaking. Plenty of people play it, though must of them are on the Discord server. My point is to not come to the forums just to hate on the game, unless it is actual, well thought out criticism. Not blind hate because the developers are focusing on a game that isn't SimplePlanes.
As @ForeverPie said, they aren't all-knowing. There are things on the SR2 site that should've been removed that stayed up for sometimes months before I even know about them and subsequently dealt with them. The only way they can really know about it is if something is either reported using the report button, or a moderator sees a comment saying "I'm posting this on my alt account" on a hot topic and decides to check the IP of said alt account to see who it belongs to, and then check if they're cheating the point system. The mods do of course investigate stuff on their own as well without reports or hot topics, but generally that's harder to do and is often more trouble than it's worth.
+2@Bmcclory I could ask you the same thing 5 months ago
I mean to be fair that isn't exactly very difficult to accomplish in most cases
+10@Bmcclory indeed
@sheepsblood First off, thank you for your service. Second, yes the Off Topic tag exists, however, that does not mean that you can just go around posting whatever you want there. The rules state that while off-topic posts are allowed, the moderators reserve the right to remove a post if it is too off-topic and/or is bound to start an argument.
I understand your reasoning here, but at the end of the day the moderators deemed it too far off-topic/too political to stay up. It's not discrimination -- it's the moderators doing their best to make sure this forum stays a civil and fun place.
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Edit: The comment this was a response to seems to have been removed by the user who posted it
@sheepsblood I mean, you're the one complaining that your post got deleted, no? I'm a moderator on the SimpleRockets site, so I know a lot of how this place is moderated and that your post was bound to be deleted at some point.
@sheepsblood Sir this is a 7 month old forum post
Sir this is an airplane forum
+1@asteroidbook345 Here
@EternalDarkness Yeah, the improvements to the mod notes are really nice. They're actually readable without making my eyes bleed now.
+4I don't come here very often but my main issue with this game's community is that people can't seem to get along. It always seems like there's some kind of drama happening 24/7. I get that this tends to happen with larger communities, but still.
+1111? That's erm.. unfortunate, considering you need to be at least 13 to have an account here.
+10.9.2? Seems like a huge downgrade from 1.9 if you ask me. :P
I feel like submitting something to this would, in a way, fall under the "don't ask for upvotes" rule. Just in a much more subtle way than simply asking would.
@Spikerya As mods we aren't meant to uphold a "moral code", we aren't Jedi. We are supposed to uphold the rules. If someone isn't breaking any rules, then chances are they won't receive any repercussions for whatever it is they're doing. I also don't see how Mattangi's craft ripped off RU's car. It was a normal successor and nothing about it warranted deletion, which is why it's still up despite RU making a big deal out of it.
As a moderator on the SR2 site I feel I should share my own thoughts on this matter:
I don't think permission should be required to make a successor to someone's craft, nor is it up to the original creator to decide if a successor post is enough of an "improvement" to stay up unless a moderator specifically says otherwise. The rules state this:
As you may have noticed, nowhere does it say you need any permission. Yes, it's nicer to ask, but that's just a courtesy and not a requirement. If you feel offended over a successor post then, sorry, but that's not really the uploader's problem. It is up to the moderators to decide if a post should be removed, not the original creator of said post. If you think a post violates the rules, please report it rather than try to take matters into your own hands.
+3This post would be better suited for the official SimpleRockets website. You can log-in to that website using your SP log-in info if you so choose.
+2@CrashFighter05 It is his dog and her name is Wila. :)
He most likely resigned due to personal issues. He did the same on the SimpleRockets website, the SRC, and presumably SPBC, though him leaving SPBC was more because it was really toxic than anything else. Just give him space.
+4He's been going through some personal stuff. I don't know the specifics, but even if I did know I wouldn't tell because it's not my place to say.
Vizzy is superior :p
Physicists have always said that matter cannot be created nor destroyed.
+2.
This cannon says otherwise.
@TheCreatorandDestroyer99 The problem is that one could copy that link, paste it into one of their crafts, and disguise it as something else so when someone clicks said link, the uploader essentially gets free points.
@TheCreatorandDestroyer99 The link that the upvote button goes to.
+1@JamesBoA He's speaking fowl language, duh
+2@Atomicdragon Good job; you've single-handedly earned yourself a ban.
+1@WhiteKyuremGaming If you read the post I linked to you'd see it isn't exactly that simple. The scripting backend has to be changed from one that supports mods to one that doesn't because of the 64bit requirement.
Considering Apple's TOS doesn't allow mods, and that future versions of SimplePlanes on Android won't support mods, it is very unlikely that iOS will ever have mod support.
@Imashovel The Terry Crews Old Spice ads are brilliant
+2Pin
@MrPorg137 Not super low. I raise and lower them depending on what I'm doing, but I have the shaders, normal mapping, and part textures all on high and it works fine. Pretty much everything else is on low or medium.
I've been playing it on an 8th generation Fire HD 8 with Google Play installed for almost a month and it runs fine on low settings.
The answer is most likely no. Even a very good PC struggles to run Maywar at times, so a mobile device wouldn't fare well against it.
+1As someone who has owned SR2 on PC since launch day, and as a beta tester for the mobile version, I can tell you that it is most certainly something to look forward to.
+1I knew I shouldn't have dumped all that wind into the ocean.
+5You should have asserted your dominance by posting this in Silver so you get Gold in the 'Thanks for Gold' post.
In my opinion, it's okay to pirate games from terrible AAA companies like EA and not pay for them even if you do like the game. As well as pirating a game to demo it; that's fine too. But pirating an Indie game or a AAA game from a developer that actually listens to its community (the ones that come to mind are Bungie and 343i) without the intention of actually buying the game is just not okay.
@Jim1the1Squid @Nickr Considering the PC beta testing for SR2 locked you out of the game after beta testing was over, I don't think you'll be able to keep it when beta testing is over on Mobile. You'll probably have to buy the game afterwards if you want to keep playing it.
Oh, please, please do. Cave Johnson is the best character ever conceived of.
+1Considering I'm homeschooled, this "advice" isn't very useful. Even if I wasn't homeschooled, It'd still be useless because this isn't a good way to go about life.
For me, nothing will beat the SR-71 until there is a manned jet that outperforms it, and looks cooler than the SR-71. So far, that hasn't happened yet.
@RailfanEthan Huh. Guess I'll delete this post then.
@RailfanEthan He did? Huh. Where was this announced?
@AndrewGarrison Perhaps you could answer this?
@Brields95 So 2 games aren't allowed to be separate from one another? Yeah, sure. I don't need your input here. All I'm asking is to keep your SR2 hate on here. Don't just go to SR2's forums just to blindly hate on it and its community for even daring to think that SR2 is a good game. Also, this is coming from someone who plays both games.
One thing to also keep in mind about SR2, is that it is overshadowed by its big brother, KSP. Meanwhile SP for the most part doesn't have any competition other than SR2.
+4@Awsomur Oof.
@FreeRangedLemon You are clearly missing my point here. I am not saying SimpleRockets 2 is alive, I am asking you to stop going to the SimpleRockets website just to hate on the game without any actual criticism.
@Jetpackturtle I think part of the reason SimplePlanes had such a high player count at launch is because it launched as a mobile game and thus most of its playerbase is on mobile. You do make a good point (unlike some other people..) but I think part of the reason the player count is so low compared to SP at the moment is due to not being on mobile yet. I think once mobile is released (which is looking like that will be in late August or early September) then the amount of people playing will be much higher.
+1@IStoleYourMeme That's the SP bias speaking. Plenty of people play it, though must of them are on the Discord server. My point is to not come to the forums just to hate on the game, unless it is actual, well thought out criticism. Not blind hate because the developers are focusing on a game that isn't SimplePlanes.
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