@Droslash I don't think there is one big resource for that anywhere - maybe that's something that some of us should get together and make - but I can give you some starting points if you like. I'll get my laptop and type out a basic guide in just a bit
The files for your planes are most likely in Internal storage\Android\data\com.Jundroo.SimplePlanes\files\AircraftDesigns. They may be elsewhere if you store your files on an SD card. Anyway, find those, then open the one you want to edit in a text editor. Once you're done, save it, then reload the plane in SimplePlanes and your changes will take effect. I recommend backing up any planes you edit, it's easy to break them
I like the cockpit design, I haven't seen many people build one that way. If you use a similar one again, try to remove to normal cockpit that is upside down underneath the other ones, and get the remaining ones to sit flush with the fuselage.
You probably want to swap your pitch and roll control surfaces around. Pitch controls work best at the front and back of the plane, such as on the rear stabilisers, and roll controls work best out to the sides, such as on the ends of the wings.
Try to find some way of blending the intakes in to the fuselage a little. A fuselage section attached to the back of them and given enough of a run value to clip in to the main fuselage would work just fine.
You totally nailed the CoL and CoM positions, try to keep that similar.
Try to move the rear landing gear to be just a little bit behind the CoM. This will make taking off a lot easier.
@Jasperjl alright, upload it unlisted once the site is working again and give me a link, I'll take a look and see if I can work out what the problem is
You need to get the CoM in front of the CoL (centres of mass and lift, respectively, just in case you didn't already know). You can do this by adding and removing fuel or dead weight to make it heavier at the front. You can also try to add more wings at the back (replace structural panels wherever possible, clip them in to the fuselage, whatever else) and replace wings at the front with structural panels.
@Sirstupid I made another entry without the clipping abuse that disqualified my last entry, but I think it's actually even smaller. I'll upload it as soon as the issue with the site is sorted, but you can have a picture for now
@Spikerya @HakkeAirTech and also @General360 just in case you want to see. I present HakkeAirTech vs Spikerya! I'm also laying down a little challenge of my own for you: beat this
@Spikerya alright so I tried it out and it's too unstable to fly. It flips over basically as soon as it gets airborne. Am I doing something wrong? The CoM is pretty far behind the CoL, which doesn't usually work
Potentially, if you're on PC or Android. Your locations are saved in Settings.xml, so I guess if you put the text in a forum post, people could add it to their file
@MrVaultech probably because it was a pretty interesting design to work on. I was impressed you got it working at all, all of my previous asymmetrical efforts have been disastrous
@MrVaultech Okay so when I started doing this, nobody had fixed it yet, but it seems @HakkeAirTech has beaten me to it. We took pretty different approaches, though, so I'll post this anyway.
To Hakke: nice work, your version flies pretty well
@XVIindustries given how lightweight SP is, I reckon (from a totally non-technical standpoint) that more powerful mobile devices could manage fine. Maybe only have them destructible on high physics or something?
@abledbody I think that was an attempt at getting an accurate speed. Curiously, a new prop will explode when placed in that exact same spot, even though the old one doesn't. In the end, the main prop had to be modded a little
@XVIindustries it was one of the toughest exclusions to make, but I feel like it doesn't have the same global appeal as the rest of the list. Every country had its own hero fighter, as Brits we're just particularly fond of ours
@TheW4terDrop it happens to absolutely everyone. The most popular planes get upwards of a thousand downloads, and usually only thirty or so votes. I think some way of voting from within the game would alleviate the problem a little, but until then we'll all have to just try not to be part of the problem
@Meawk I always saw the F-15 as being more equivalent to the Su-27. The F-15 is definitely a better all-round fighter than the MiG, but I like the MiG for what it is. I would have liked to include a lot of other planes, like the Vulcan and the Spitfire, but I had to keep it to just ten. Your own list can have the F-15!
@Theonebeardarmy if you have the PC version, you can xml edit it or use the nudge controls. On android, you can xml edit. On Apple systems, I think you're out of luck, but I can do it for you if build everything else and then send it to me.
da Vinci's flyer. One-off the earliest examples of someone actually more or less nailing all the right ideas for flight.
BAe Harrier. A classic design, devastatingly effective even against seemingly superior fighters.
Lockheed Martin SR-71. The iconic spy plane, and anything which is literally too fast to shoot down is automatically cool.
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25. They strapped a pilot to such an absurd amount of power that it could take on the Blackbird and even shoot down satellites.
Sukhoi Su-27. Huge, powerful, well-armed, incredibly agile, and very good looking to boot.
Boeing 747. The archetypal passenger jet, and probably the most likely one for anyone to be able to name.
Concorde. It had its trouble, but the UK and France came together to create something really remarkable here. It's sad that we can't see it flying any more.
Zivko Edge 540. This gave us the Red Bull Air Race, what more do you need?
Junkers Ju-87. The most famous threat to the Allies in WWII, which even managed to define a whole strategy of aerial warfare.
The Wright flyer. It couldn't not be included, could it?
There are other planes I like more personally, but these are the ones that I think have had the biggest cultural impact.
There is a big forum post about this, it is probably the most-requested feature and shows up regularly in the forums. There is a multiplayer mod in progress, too.
@Droslash I don't think there is one big resource for that anywhere - maybe that's something that some of us should get together and make - but I can give you some starting points if you like. I'll get my laptop and type out a basic guide in just a bit
@Zmaj I would have been glad to help out, but it seems that @RocketLL has beaten me to it
@bjac0 aww dude no, that was just a joke! I did comment again, but you might have missed it
The files for your planes are most likely in Internal storage\Android\data\com.Jundroo.SimplePlanes\files\AircraftDesigns. They may be elsewhere if you store your files on an SD card. Anyway, find those, then open the one you want to edit in a text editor. Once you're done, save it, then reload the plane in SimplePlanes and your changes will take effect. I recommend backing up any planes you edit, it's easy to break them
@bjac0 nah though I just posted that before you voted hahaha
@bjac0 I hate you.
@LiberatorWeaponAgency no worries, tag me when you upload it so I can see
@catmeowin @Sirstupid @grizzlitn @Noman0rumeral @DeezDucks @XVIindustries @AnarchistAerospaceIndustries thank you all
Alright, thoughts:
I like the cockpit design, I haven't seen many people build one that way. If you use a similar one again, try to remove to normal cockpit that is upside down underneath the other ones, and get the remaining ones to sit flush with the fuselage.
You probably want to swap your pitch and roll control surfaces around. Pitch controls work best at the front and back of the plane, such as on the rear stabilisers, and roll controls work best out to the sides, such as on the ends of the wings.
Try to find some way of blending the intakes in to the fuselage a little. A fuselage section attached to the back of them and given enough of a run value to clip in to the main fuselage would work just fine.
You totally nailed the CoL and CoM positions, try to keep that similar.
Try to move the rear landing gear to be just a little bit behind the CoM. This will make taking off a lot easier.
I'll take a look
@Spikerya maybe try downloading this version and testing it? It's possible you fixed it after uploading this
Nice job on this one. The pitch control surfaces are a bit big, but it still flies well and it looks good too
@Spikerya same issue, I'm afraid :/ I'll check out that Jaguar though, I always liked that plane
Feel free to check. Things have still been nudged about, but nothing is hidden
@General360 @Droslash cheers guys
@XVIIndustries @Cedy117
Are they attached to the part of the plane that has the cockpit, or are they just floating separately?
@Spikerya I'll try it on that and see what happens
@Sirstupid alright here it is, with what I believe is a score of 12.7
Move the vertical stabilisers back, they need to be far behind the CoM to work properly.
The propeller isn't doing any good, you'd be better taking it off.
I'm honestly not really sure why it rolls left slightly all the time, though.
@Jasperjl alright, upload it unlisted once the site is working again and give me a link, I'll take a look and see if I can work out what the problem is
You need to get the CoM in front of the CoL (centres of mass and lift, respectively, just in case you didn't already know). You can do this by adding and removing fuel or dead weight to make it heavier at the front. You can also try to add more wings at the back (replace structural panels wherever possible, clip them in to the fuselage, whatever else) and replace wings at the front with structural panels.
@Sirstupid I made another entry without the clipping abuse that disqualified my last entry, but I think it's actually even smaller. I'll upload it as soon as the issue with the site is sorted, but you can have a picture for now
@Spikerya @HakkeAirTech and also @General360 just in case you want to see. I present HakkeAirTech vs Spikerya! I'm also laying down a little challenge of my own for you: beat this
This is awesome, I'm gonna use it as my opponent in the WWII dogfight
@FredDeane will do
@Spikerya alright so I tried it out and it's too unstable to fly. It flips over basically as soon as it gets airborne. Am I doing something wrong? The CoM is pretty far behind the CoL, which doesn't usually work
@MrVaultech that plane was just total insanity. I have been looking for a new project though, my current ones have stalled a bit...
Potentially, if you're on PC or Android. Your locations are saved in Settings.xml, so I guess if you put the text in a forum post, people could add it to their file
Version 1.3, the one that adds weapons, is supposed to be released for mobile later this month
@Cedy117 @XVIindustries what sorta size are you guys looking for?
@MrVaultech probably because it was a pretty interesting design to work on. I was impressed you got it working at all, all of my previous asymmetrical efforts have been disastrous
Just saw your message on the video, I'll test this on PC tomorrow
@MrVaultech Okay so when I started doing this, nobody had fixed it yet, but it seems @HakkeAirTech has beaten me to it. We took pretty different approaches, though, so I'll post this anyway.
To Hakke: nice work, your version flies pretty well
If it's my own design, I usually draw it, but only very roughly. I don't want to get bogged down in details that will probably have to be changed.
@Spikerya I actually didn't! That's really interesting, it seems that I have some reading to do
@HakkeAirTech oh, sorry, I didn't realise you wanted yours done! I'll put it up against the winner tomorrow
@XVIindustries given how lightweight SP is, I reckon (from a totally non-technical standpoint) that more powerful mobile devices could manage fine. Maybe only have them destructible on high physics or something?
@abledbody I think that was an attempt at getting an accurate speed. Curiously, a new prop will explode when placed in that exact same spot, even though the old one doesn't. In the end, the main prop had to be modded a little
@FullFruntall @XVIindustries well that's because Harriers are wonderful
@XVIindustries it was one of the toughest exclusions to make, but I feel like it doesn't have the same global appeal as the rest of the list. Every country had its own hero fighter, as Brits we're just particularly fond of ours
@TheW4terDrop it happens to absolutely everyone. The most popular planes get upwards of a thousand downloads, and usually only thirty or so votes. I think some way of voting from within the game would alleviate the problem a little, but until then we'll all have to just try not to be part of the problem
Someone has been reading xkcd
@Meawk I always saw the F-15 as being more equivalent to the Su-27. The F-15 is definitely a better all-round fighter than the MiG, but I like the MiG for what it is. I would have liked to include a lot of other planes, like the Vulcan and the Spitfire, but I had to keep it to just ten. Your own list can have the F-15!
@HakkeAirTech @Spikerya @General360 ready for you!
@Theonebeardarmy if you have the PC version, you can xml edit it or use the nudge controls. On android, you can xml edit. On Apple systems, I think you're out of luck, but I can do it for you if build everything else and then send it to me.
In no particular order:
da Vinci's flyer. One-off the earliest examples of someone actually more or less nailing all the right ideas for flight.
BAe Harrier. A classic design, devastatingly effective even against seemingly superior fighters.
Lockheed Martin SR-71. The iconic spy plane, and anything which is literally too fast to shoot down is automatically cool.
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25. They strapped a pilot to such an absurd amount of power that it could take on the Blackbird and even shoot down satellites.
Sukhoi Su-27. Huge, powerful, well-armed, incredibly agile, and very good looking to boot.
Boeing 747. The archetypal passenger jet, and probably the most likely one for anyone to be able to name.
Concorde. It had its trouble, but the UK and France came together to create something really remarkable here. It's sad that we can't see it flying any more.
Zivko Edge 540. This gave us the Red Bull Air Race, what more do you need?
Junkers Ju-87. The most famous threat to the Allies in WWII, which even managed to define a whole strategy of aerial warfare.
The Wright flyer. It couldn't not be included, could it?
There are other planes I like more personally, but these are the ones that I think have had the biggest cultural impact.
How many can we vote for?
@Spikerya I'll test this out on my laptop later, it looks good
There is a big forum post about this, it is probably the most-requested feature and shows up regularly in the forums. There is a multiplayer mod in progress, too.