@Liquidfox ohhh the coleopter one! I think someone else has suggested that one as well. I have another late-war German one that I'm kinda stuck on just now, but I'll try to do it when I can
Besides the (perfectly valid) fuselage section suggestions, you can also use nudge or xml edits to move them to the wings after attaching them to the main fuselage
@Liquidfox alright, I had a look, I'll add it to the list of stuff to be done. No guarantees about when it will be done, though, I'm not much good at uploading regularly :/
@Toymaker just different features that planes sometimes have on their wings, is all. LERX stands for Leading Edge Root Extension, like the long points at the root of an F/A-18's wings. A cranked wing is one that starts off with a high sweep and gets less swept towards the outside, like a Saab Draken.
You seem to have the basic ideas down, the CoM and CoL look about right, you're using fuselage sections instead of the old blocks, and you're not using the default colour scheme. All of that is pretty good stuff. My only suggestions on top of that would be: don't be afraid to make your plane longer, and try making wings out of more than one piece. You can add all sorts of thing that way, like LERXs, strike, cranked sweeps or deltas, rounded wingtip, whatever you fancy. It looks like you have a good grasp on building, though! I shall test your plane properly later
@DelphFoxFan the CoL on your missile is way too far forward. Missiles need to be very stable to work properly, because detaching them is a very unsteady process.
@TheStapler the intake stopped me from doing this one for a long time too, the eventual solution came when I realised that i could make the big scoop on the front a false one. The central section of it is made from structural panels instead of fuselages, and those don't block the air to the real intake behind it. Also sorry it took nearly a fortnight to respond, I must have missed the notification.
@WhippedCreamKing I can't build stuff until tomorrow night, so if you don't want to wait that long, take a look at the guide a wrote in the comments of this post. If you have trouble with it, I'll get it sorted for you tomorrow.
@Supercraft888 I remember someone didn't believe me about how fragile balsa wood was until I bit the front off of one of the failed models we had made from it
• Your rudder works the same way as your elevators. If your horizontal wings were just one tiny surface with a CoL waaaay at the back of the plane, your elevators wouldn't do much either. Rudders aren't really very effective for the speeds planes usually fly at anyway.
• I don't know, sorry. It might be possible to activate it with a Bluetooth keyboard or something, but I haven't tested this.
• Whether your CoT is at the front or the back shouldn't really matter, what effects are you seeing?
@jsaret @MediocrePlanes I wrote an introduction to xml editing in the comments of a post and I just kinda spam it everywhere people want to know about xml editing now. Hopefully it's useful to you
This is normally down to one of two things: your pitch control surfaces are too big, or you xml edited some wings and something got inverted when it shouldn't have been. There is one other potential culprit, which is the wing landing gear. For some reason, when it's retracted, it can cause a persistent roll to the left
@jsaret to expand on your post, alt account abuse could maybe be reduced by only giving points per unique account that downloads the plane. That way, people would have to register a new account every time to hike their score up
@Seeras 1:22 if I'm lucky, but it doesn't always get that. It never crashes, though. I could make something faster, but this design was just too much fun to get rid of!
@DelphFoxFan that's not a bad idea, although it would probably have to stop counting after a certain point. The famous Droplet has nearly 70,000 downloads
This seemed interesting, so I go the downloads and votes for my most popular designs and a random bunch of less popular ones as well.
Name DLs Votes Ratio Type
Hawk 11031 66 167 Replica
Triebflugel 4749 59 80 Replica
JAST 2198 43 51 Replica
Taranis 1984 38 52 Replica
ES-335 449 35 13 Replica (non-plane, high part count)
Laura 1914 34 56 Replica (Battlestar Galactica)
Lancer 252 28 9 Replica
Copperbell 708 21 34 Original
Cariburn 890 17 52 Replica (Ace Combat)
Eagleray III 543 20 27 Original (challenge)
Roundels 58 14 4 Toolbox
Fuath 53 7 8 Original (challenge)
Peallaidh 192 3 64 Original (challenge, winner)
MiG-15 157 12 13 Replica
Martlet 65 5 13 Original (challenge, winner)
Exocoetus 9 1 9 Original
Nightwing 78 12 7 Replica (Warhammer 40,000)
Warton 7 2 4 Replica
Nosferatu 22 1 22 Replica (Ace Combat)
Valkyrie 80 7 11 Original
Bobbitworm 24 7 3 Original (challenge, runner up)
Saab 21 6 3 2 Replica
Hawkmoth 5 2 3 Original (challenge)
Freestyle 32 7 5 Replica (challenge)
Then, ordered by the best ratio to the worst:
Name DLs Votes Ratio Type
Saab 21 6 3 2 Replica
Bobbitworm 24 7 3 Original (challenge, runner up)
Hawkmoth 5 2 3 Original (challenge)
Roundels 58 14 4 Toolbox
Warton 7 2 4 Replica
Freestyle 32 7 5 Replica (challenge)
Nightwing 78 12 7 Replica (Warhammer 40,000)
Fuath 53 7 8 Original (challenge)
Lancer 252 28 9 Replica
Exocoetus 9 1 9 Original
Valkyrie 80 7 11 Original
ES-335 449 35 13 Replica (non-plane, high part count)
MiG-15 157 12 13 Replica
Martlet 65 5 13 Original (challenge, winner)
Nosferatu 22 1 22 Replica (Ace Combat)
Eagleray III 543 20 27 Original (challenge)
Copperbell 708 21 34 Original
JAST 2198 43 51 Replica
Taranis 1984 38 52 Replica
Cariburn 890 17 52 Replica (Ace Combat)
Laura 1914 34 56 Replica (Battlestar Galactica)
Peallaidh 192 3 64 Original (challenge, winner)
Triebflugel 4749 59 80 Replica
Hawk 11031 66 167 Replica
I dunno if there's any kind of observable pattern there, other than that it gets steadily worse as you get more popular. My pre-gold ones average at 12.625 downloads per vote, my post-gold ones average 56.333
Just a thought regarding those engine glows, actually - does this thing have eight BFE120s for power? I'm fairly sure it's the only one that does that blue flame
@DelphFoxFan I think it might actually be the CF-XX that Wildblue was talking about. It's a concept for X-plane (a flight sim, if you don't know it) that some guys designed. It's supposed to be a 6th generation version of the Avro Arrow project. Apparently they want to do it in real life now
@Liquidfox ohhh the coleopter one! I think someone else has suggested that one as well. I have another late-war German one that I'm kinda stuck on just now, but I'll try to do it when I can
@Liquidfox fancy dropping a link for the Larche? I can't find anything under that name, I just get results for French stuff (L'arche)
Besides the (perfectly valid) fuselage section suggestions, you can also use nudge or xml edits to move them to the wings after attaching them to the main fuselage
@GINGER01 alright, I'll see what I can do
@GINGER01 are the guns and turrets meant to be functional, or am I just to make them look nice?
@Cedy117 I've never done camo before, but I'm happy to try. I have one or two other help requests to deal with first, then I'll get on it
@Liquidfox alright, I had a look, I'll add it to the list of stuff to be done. No guarantees about when it will be done, though, I'm not much good at uploading regularly :/
@Toymaker don't worry, they weren't requirements, only suggestions for things to look at for ideas haha
If you're talking about actual mods, Unity.
If you're talking about xml edits, literally any text editor. Even notepad can do it.
@Toymaker just different features that planes sometimes have on their wings, is all. LERX stands for Leading Edge Root Extension, like the long points at the root of an F/A-18's wings. A cranked wing is one that starts off with a high sweep and gets less swept towards the outside, like a Saab Draken.
@Liquidfox I'll get back to you on that!
@DelphFoxFan ahh, sorry, I should have read the comments more thoroughly haha
You seem to have the basic ideas down, the CoM and CoL look about right, you're using fuselage sections instead of the old blocks, and you're not using the default colour scheme. All of that is pretty good stuff. My only suggestions on top of that would be: don't be afraid to make your plane longer, and try making wings out of more than one piece. You can add all sorts of thing that way, like LERXs, strike, cranked sweeps or deltas, rounded wingtip, whatever you fancy. It looks like you have a good grasp on building, though! I shall test your plane properly later
@Liquidfox what's that?
@DelphFoxFan the CoL on your missile is way too far forward. Missiles need to be very stable to work properly, because detaching them is a very unsteady process.
Go check it out! If it still doesn't inspire you, try doing a Fairchild FX
@TheStapler the intake stopped me from doing this one for a long time too, the eventual solution came when I realised that i could make the big scoop on the front a false one. The central section of it is made from structural panels instead of fuselages, and those don't block the air to the real intake behind it. Also sorry it took nearly a fortnight to respond, I must have missed the notification.
@Liquidfox thank you!
@WhippedCreamKing I can't build stuff until tomorrow night, so if you don't want to wait that long, take a look at the guide a wrote in the comments of this post. If you have trouble with it, I'll get it sorted for you tomorrow.
Also thank you for your vote and comment!
@AviownCorp I shall try this as soon as I can!
+1@dilisvarskvlavi I think I should make an actual skua instead hahaha
Can I just submit my Hawk? That's under 100 parts haha
@Supercraft888 I remember someone didn't believe me about how fragile balsa wood was until I bit the front off of one of the failed models we had made from it
• Your rudder works the same way as your elevators. If your horizontal wings were just one tiny surface with a CoL waaaay at the back of the plane, your elevators wouldn't do much either. Rudders aren't really very effective for the speeds planes usually fly at anyway.
• I don't know, sorry. It might be possible to activate it with a Bluetooth keyboard or something, but I haven't tested this.
• Whether your CoT is at the front or the back shouldn't really matter, what effects are you seeing?
@jsaret @MediocrePlanes I wrote an introduction to xml editing in the comments of a post and I just kinda spam it everywhere people want to know about xml editing now. Hopefully it's useful to you
@GINGER01 I'll forget and/or lose it if you send it just now haha. Post a link on one of my planes on Sunday and I'll get on it
Also forgot the exclamation mark at the beginning. Copy this is to your post instead:
@GINGER01 I can't build things this weekend, but if you don't mind waiting a couple of days, I can do it
@T0PD0GDEFENSIVECO @TheMasterSoldier making mods doesn't earn points yet
This is normally down to one of two things: your pitch control surfaces are too big, or you xml edited some wings and something got inverted when it shouldn't have been. There is one other potential culprit, which is the wing landing gear. For some reason, when it's retracted, it can cause a persistent roll to the left
@ChunderDownUndeR I'll make a more comprehensive list of stuff that I don't plan on doing myself and get back to you when I can
@jsaret no, I don't mean requiring an account to download, just that downloads by by people without accounts shouldn't provide points for the builder
@Seeras depends on how you set it up. It doesn't use the VTOL slider, though
@jsaret to expand on your post, alt account abuse could maybe be reduced by only giving points per unique account that downloads the plane. That way, people would have to register a new account every time to hike their score up
@Seeras manual, actually ;)
@Seeras here
@Seeras Sure, but I'm gonna change the values of the props to protect my secrets hahaha
@Seeras it did not, I'm just trusting Andrew's comment that it will in the tournament... if not, well I guess I'll lose hahaha
@Seeras here's a sneaky preview of mine
Will you need to completely rebuild yours or can you just make some edits?
@Seeras 1:22 if I'm lucky, but it doesn't always get that. It never crashes, though. I could make something faster, but this design was just too much fun to get rid of!
@Seeras ohh, I see. Mine was originally 22.5m, I had to shorten it to make a legal hahaha
@Seeras too long as in it's over 20m? I'm excited to see this now, I thought I would be the only one with a big design haha
@DelphFoxFan that's not a bad idea, although it would probably have to stop counting after a certain point. The famous Droplet has nearly 70,000 downloads
@Seeras is there no way you can separate the props more? It would be a shame to miss you in the tournament
This seemed interesting, so I go the downloads and votes for my most popular designs and a random bunch of less popular ones as well.
Then, ordered by the best ratio to the worst:
I dunno if there's any kind of observable pattern there, other than that it gets steadily worse as you get more popular. My pre-gold ones average at 12.625 downloads per vote, my post-gold ones average 56.333
@SUPERSAMROCK whilst it is terrible, it's not something you're doing wrong, it's a problem with the entire community
@AgDynamics such was the fate of the Chinchilla :(
@AndrewGarrison I've given my rather large design about as much clearance as I could get within the size limits. Thanks for the heads up.
Also, how will collisions between the two entries be handled? Testing seems to suggest it'll happen a lot
Just a thought regarding those engine glows, actually - does this thing have eight BFE120s for power? I'm fairly sure it's the only one that does that blue flame
@dubstep I don't know what else to tell you dude :/ are you sure it wouldn't be easier for me to just make you a gun to your specs?
@DelphFoxFan I think it might actually be the CF-XX that Wildblue was talking about. It's a concept for X-plane (a flight sim, if you don't know it) that some guys designed. It's supposed to be a 6th generation version of the Avro Arrow project. Apparently they want to do it in real life now