@ThomasRoderick I 100% agree.
You can't make those designs though If you don't go through the development arc I had. You have to admit that some other hypersonic SSTO designs, though perfectly functional, look crappy.
That new echostar is form after function, but it does also have the form in mind, that is why the whole folding wings. That is NOT a conventional design choice for hypersonics. It wasn't a result of entirely just "Make the best possible version in terms of IRL physics", It was more "How can we make this near impossible to work IRL plane into something genuinely plausible". The twin booms and forward swept wings are still a part of it, and reason why it looks so... NICE. let's say. Still though, thanks for forcing some more realism into my designs!
@YarisSedan Im working on it hard as we speak. The landing gear is done, some other mechanisms are done as well. I'm just making sure it's all working well right now, then Ill move to do the interiors and such... and if the difficulties that i'm facing IRL don't persist, then I may be able to push it out tomorrow. That said, my mental headspace isn't at it's best right now so let's see.
@Sadboye12 don't worry, I'm not. I doubt I ever truly was. Especially knowing people like you were around me. Maybe you playing along was part of cracking the shell to get the egg. Had I have had to face telling the truth to people when I wasn't ready...
We wouldn't have gotten this story.
@Sadboye12 once again... You know, that's kwite alright... Im happy to know that, even. I thought I was alone, I really did. It's heartwarming to know that you were there an actually thought about me after figuring it out. I was under the impression that noone understood, but you did.
@Sadboye12 the Echostar is an allegory to me now. Even it's name... "Echo" and "star"
A repeating thing shining as bright as stars do is... It's emotional.
Which is why I want to see people's versions. I don't care how bad or good. This is an invitation to anyone reading. Make a twin booms plane that is meant to do one thing, show your emotion.
@SuperSuperTheSylph good to know people like you exist.
But I must reiterate. I honestly did get what I deserved and I accept that. I feel like I have wronged a few people and want to right those faults and come out better. This post was one reason why. It serves as a solid explanation to everyone.
Still, tysm for the positivity, I appreciate you for that.
@Graingy Also, what are you? a fricking readaholic? You basically never actually see my posts planes and stuff 💀
(This is me telling you to go see what I posted. Fits with you being a readaholic too)
@RX9115S
Right, after a bit of consideration I'll say that yes, the thing can fly. It just doesn't like pulls... which isn't the best thing for a fighter, but to be fair, that's more forgivable than "It can't fly", so my bad on that one I suppose. I do still think further refinement would make it better since most users will likely just put the pitch full down on take off or do aggressive turns since most of us will likely use WASD or the joystick on phone not very carefully. All it really needs is more tuning on AOA limiter if one already exists (Pretty simple input code, let me know if you want to know how that works). But that being said, It's atleast good to know that you did test it a lot and after thinking about it, this does feel ALRIGHT to let out but you'd definitely do yourself one better if you make it literally FOOL PROOF.
About the playset, once again, it's a good idea, but when you load this thing on the airport, it interferes with a normal take-off. What do I suggest? keep this as is, just lower the heights of the stands so that it doesn't actually collide with the thing, because let's be fair, not everyone will bother to take that initiative and actually remove or delete them. For people playing, usually it is just download and fly. And I'm well aware that you made it clear it's a play set, yes, I just would've liked it if I can just download and go... maybe read some instructions about how to start it up if it's a complex build.
About not using variables; You don't need that for screens, but I got your point. I agree with you on wanting to keep it simple and take that back, then there's also the argument of how the thing is technically a model only as well... so yeah. That's a full case closed unless you think you want to add some basic speed displays and stuff. I'll be here to help with that
TL;DR in case your in a hurry :
Response noted, I agree to the response about overcomplication, think that the playset should be adjusted in a way that is accessible and doesn't hinder the "Download and go" expectation, also think that the thing on second thought flies pretty great if you learn, but kind of hard to learn when the thing can't take-off without flipping (Unless you be gentle with it). Also suggest AOA limiters.
Good to know you actually took the criticism seriously even though some points seemed a little obvious at first though!
@YarisSedan Let me know what you think!
+1@SuperSuperTheSylph You bet I damnit am.
+1@Solent19 THATS WHY HE IS THE GOATT
+1THE GOAAATTTTT
@Rb2h just added them
+1@TheMouse
+1@LunarEclipseSP
@Saturn0
@Grob0s0VBRa
+1@Sadboye12
@Solent19
+1@YarisSedan
@Pnut
@ThomasRoderick I 100% agree.
You can't make those designs though If you don't go through the development arc I had. You have to admit that some other hypersonic SSTO designs, though perfectly functional, look crappy.
That new echostar is form after function, but it does also have the form in mind, that is why the whole folding wings. That is NOT a conventional design choice for hypersonics. It wasn't a result of entirely just "Make the best possible version in terms of IRL physics", It was more "How can we make this near impossible to work IRL plane into something genuinely plausible". The twin booms and forward swept wings are still a part of it, and reason why it looks so... NICE. let's say. Still though, thanks for forcing some more realism into my designs!
+1@ThomasRoderick which does make them timeless in a way. Also, the final Echostar we decided on is 100% going to be a timeless design.
Also when I say timeless, I mean to say only in terms of how they look. Not the functionality.
+1Woah. The body work on this is lovely.
+1@Rb2h Thank you!
+1@Rb2h normally don't ask for this but... I'd love to hear your opinion!
+1@Solent19
+1Since you were interested in seeing what Im doing with the inside job
@YarisSedan
+1XD
It's alright. It's in fact helping that there's atleast interaction happening here to keep me busy
@YarisSedan Im working on it hard as we speak. The landing gear is done, some other mechanisms are done as well. I'm just making sure it's all working well right now, then Ill move to do the interiors and such... and if the difficulties that i'm facing IRL don't persist, then I may be able to push it out tomorrow. That said, my mental headspace isn't at it's best right now so let's see.
+1@Sadboye12 alright! You take care too! And thank you!
+1Oh and don't worry about the comments, I like chatting sometimes :D
@Sadboye12 don't worry, I'm not. I doubt I ever truly was. Especially knowing people like you were around me. Maybe you playing along was part of cracking the shell to get the egg. Had I have had to face telling the truth to people when I wasn't ready...
+1We wouldn't have gotten this story.
@Sadboye12 I'm trying. Cant tell if I'm doing good, but I'm trying.
+1@Sadboye12 I guess all my alts were just depressed at some point, eh? XD
+1@Sadboye12 they mean a lot to me. Thank you. Thank you so much.
And for the record... I did just "let out" a little. So thanks for that as well. Giving me an opportunity to do that.
+1@Sadboye12 once again... You know, that's kwite alright... Im happy to know that, even. I thought I was alone, I really did. It's heartwarming to know that you were there an actually thought about me after figuring it out. I was under the impression that noone understood, but you did.
+1@Sadboye12 I could cry. Actually, I really should cry. There's way too much happening and it's best I let it out.
+1@Sadboye12 the Echostar is an allegory to me now. Even it's name... "Echo" and "star"
+1A repeating thing shining as bright as stars do is... It's emotional.
Which is why I want to see people's versions. I don't care how bad or good. This is an invitation to anyone reading. Make a twin booms plane that is meant to do one thing, show your emotion.
@Sadboye12
+1How come?
Noone else could figure it out. How did you figure it out?
@TTL Das Kwite awright m8 ye dont need ta warreh!
+1@SuperSuperTheSylph 80 ping is like a godsend for me.
+1@SuperSuperTheSylph Eheheheheheh(Click)
+1@BaconEggs oh wow that is actually a very good suggestion
+1@Dracul0Anderson did so and yes, I'd love to see what you're cooking up.
+1@Dracul0Anderson well, Spefyjerbf and Guyfolk!
+1@SuperSuperTheSylph I am pretty alright. Sending best wishes to you and your family. Also, cool stuff with your builds!
+1@Graingy ...someone who loves reading?
+1No...? Okay.
@SuperSuperTheSylph good to know people like you exist.
+1But I must reiterate. I honestly did get what I deserved and I accept that. I feel like I have wronged a few people and want to right those faults and come out better. This post was one reason why. It serves as a solid explanation to everyone.
Still, tysm for the positivity, I appreciate you for that.
@Graingy Also, what are you? a fricking readaholic? You basically never actually see my posts planes and stuff 💀
+1(This is me telling you to go see what I posted. Fits with you being a readaholic too)
@Graingy Fair enough dude.
+1@Cerdd thank you!
+1:D
@RX9115S
Right, after a bit of consideration I'll say that yes, the thing can fly. It just doesn't like pulls... which isn't the best thing for a fighter, but to be fair, that's more forgivable than "It can't fly", so my bad on that one I suppose. I do still think further refinement would make it better since most users will likely just put the pitch full down on take off or do aggressive turns since most of us will likely use WASD or the joystick on phone not very carefully. All it really needs is more tuning on AOA limiter if one already exists (Pretty simple input code, let me know if you want to know how that works). But that being said, It's atleast good to know that you did test it a lot and after thinking about it, this does feel ALRIGHT to let out but you'd definitely do yourself one better if you make it literally FOOL PROOF.
About the playset, once again, it's a good idea, but when you load this thing on the airport, it interferes with a normal take-off. What do I suggest? keep this as is, just lower the heights of the stands so that it doesn't actually collide with the thing, because let's be fair, not everyone will bother to take that initiative and actually remove or delete them. For people playing, usually it is just download and fly. And I'm well aware that you made it clear it's a play set, yes, I just would've liked it if I can just download and go... maybe read some instructions about how to start it up if it's a complex build.
About not using variables; You don't need that for screens, but I got your point. I agree with you on wanting to keep it simple and take that back, then there's also the argument of how the thing is technically a model only as well... so yeah. That's a full case closed unless you think you want to add some basic speed displays and stuff. I'll be here to help with that
TL;DR in case your in a hurry :
Response noted, I agree to the response about overcomplication, think that the playset should be adjusted in a way that is accessible and doesn't hinder the "Download and go" expectation, also think that the thing on second thought flies pretty great if you learn, but kind of hard to learn when the thing can't take-off without flipping (Unless you be gentle with it). Also suggest AOA limiters.
Good to know you actually took the criticism seriously even though some points seemed a little obvious at first though!
+1Jesus christ bro that's way too much braindead fuselage placing xD
+1@cruiseman101 Oh god... God bless you. Hope the surgery goes well and FOR THE RECORD... I was joking xD
Take care of yourself though, really!
+1What the hell?
+1@cruiseman101 This is good stuff, now actually become a tesla competitor and give this thing an entire design and interior
+1@Crazyplaness
+1@MA2211C
Thank u!!!!!!
@BYardley thank you!
+1@MA2211c fr it does. Might make yacht some day 😂
+1Thanks for the updoot!
@Marulk
+1@Kerbango
@RB2h
Thank you for the upvotes!
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 Always a pleasure, kind sir 😊
+1@F16xl
+1@byardley
@126
@VarisOnAviation Oh. Cool stuff!
+1This is some beautiful body work man. Love it.
+1Oh we are so in this man.
T
+1