@YarisSedan I just did so... but felt like I don't want people to download these as the original. I'll keep the xml download for that as is and let these be their own separate additions to the original post.
@ThomasRoderick You come up with an excuse for it because I have no practical reason to give you other than "I wanted to keep that design from the original"
And no, this isn't the final alper like I've told you like 10 times and yes, I will make a more realistic one that can actually fly IRL.
@Solent19 ah. I see. I'll see if I can correct it or something.
I placed it far back because I do want the pilot to actually put their legs somewhere... So...
@Solent19 trust me when I say I tried absolutely everything I could with the drag here. I XML modded basically the entirety of this thing thing. Put it simply, the only workable alternative is just use a single block to simulate the overall drag coeff. I didn't do that or try to go too low with dragScale numbers because I still wanted some semblance of ... You know... Simulation.
But I hear you, and I will work to improve that aspect. As for the stick, that's mostly a practical decision. I originally wanted a yolk, but space very quickly became a valuable possesion. Hence why I went with this
The cockpit camera... Shoot I was supposed to disable it. That is fully on me... My bad on that!
@hpgbproductions thank you for the criticism! Always lovely to hear it. As for the instrument panels, I agree. It should be bigger, but I was too far in to have to pull out. Funnily enough, this wasn't even as big as it is. Yes, I was going to be more cramped than this already is, but you'll notice how I managed to save it by scaling the entire thing.
The dark blue sections being disjointed is also something I can see why you'd be bugged by it. Is it that big of a deal though? Or is it a nitpick in comparison to the rest of the design?
As for the step tail, that's just part of the Alper. I atleast can't make the OG alper without that weirdness. I've already thought about it and had discussions too, and I think a bigger version of this without that weirdness might be a future plan to look into to build.
Just tagging people who showed interest. Wanted to know what you think so far. And yes, it does have an actually working start up procedure, but you won't even have to perform it to go, making it AI Friendly. For those wondering, 618 parts and the the perfomance cost is 3000.
@YarisSedan I don't think the main fuselage needs to go any bigger. I can just raise the seats a little to accomodate for the leg room and cramp it up a little more and you'll have an 8 seater regional prop.
@YarisSedan I will have to rework the central fuselage but it might be doable in a foreseeable future.
Also, it's nice to know it does give off a luxury vibe. I was worried it wouldn't lol
I should hopefully complete the cockpit tomorrow if I crunch.
It's a good thing I actually enjoy doing cockpit work or this would have been a nightmare. Worst part is I'm already living one and this is working as a temporary escapism xD
@ReynaldoIndustries I worked on the landing gear so that it's better optimized now. THAT SAID, you'd still end up slammping the nose gear down because of the brakes unless you're a pro Pilot
Man I'm so pissed
This is my 2nd attempt and once again the timings here aren't right.
But you see, they were in the editing software I used.
It's just a nitpick, but I hate it it when that happens
Wish I had better non laggy stuff or atleast more stable software for this stuff man.
@DestroyerDJ2 thank you! I'm working on the new Alper rn as well. -- (A newer version of this) Gonna upload a video soon for it. Look forward to it! (And I mean like in 15-20 minutes as well.)
@DestroyerDJ2 you too. I appreciate all the kind words from the bottom of my heart and promise to keep on chugging like I always have been. I wish the best to you as well.
@Solent19 💀
So two things. One, it's good to know that the Echostar is actually building into a brand and people see it as a complex build
2, yeah. The Echostar has been my one and only high ranking craft that I'll make. It's now become sort of a unifying symbol of all the best builders on SP. I'm not one, but I was fortunate enough to have my design catch the eyes of some or just coincidentally happened to be allowed to use something they invented.
@YarisSedan I just did so... but felt like I don't want people to download these as the original. I'll keep the xml download for that as is and let these be their own separate additions to the original post.
After all, this is a response in a way.
@YarisSedan i don't actually know how that works xD
I made a few updates. Also, reduced parts version... CLICK!
@YarisSedan I believe it was you who wanted the non luxury regional seater, no?
oooo I like the coloring palette you used.
I made the two tone a little more noticably well flowing which you can check out by clicking this blue stuff
@CatBird Thank you!
@dabestsock xD I don't necessarily intend to, but thanks for the kind wishes!
@TheMouse thank you man! Appreciate it!
@ThomasRoderick You come up with an excuse for it because I have no practical reason to give you other than "I wanted to keep that design from the original"
And no, this isn't the final alper like I've told you like 10 times and yes, I will make a more realistic one that can actually fly IRL.
@Boeing727200F my bad. I went to sleep xD
@Solent19 ah. I see. I'll see if I can correct it or something.
I placed it far back because I do want the pilot to actually put their legs somewhere... So...
@Solent19 trust me when I say I tried absolutely everything I could with the drag here. I XML modded basically the entirety of this thing thing. Put it simply, the only workable alternative is just use a single block to simulate the overall drag coeff. I didn't do that or try to go too low with dragScale numbers because I still wanted some semblance of ... You know... Simulation.
But I hear you, and I will work to improve that aspect. As for the stick, that's mostly a practical decision. I originally wanted a yolk, but space very quickly became a valuable possesion. Hence why I went with this
The cockpit camera... Shoot I was supposed to disable it. That is fully on me... My bad on that!
@Solent19 also, let me know what you think about the plane. How she handles and such...
@Rb2h that's a surprise. Even to me. I didn't think it'd be that high.
@hpgbproductions thank you for the criticism! Always lovely to hear it. As for the instrument panels, I agree. It should be bigger, but I was too far in to have to pull out. Funnily enough, this wasn't even as big as it is. Yes, I was going to be more cramped than this already is, but you'll notice how I managed to save it by scaling the entire thing.
The dark blue sections being disjointed is also something I can see why you'd be bugged by it. Is it that big of a deal though? Or is it a nitpick in comparison to the rest of the design?
As for the step tail, that's just part of the Alper. I atleast can't make the OG alper without that weirdness. I've already thought about it and had discussions too, and I think a bigger version of this without that weirdness might be a future plan to look into to build.
Once again, tysm for the comment and upvote!
@crazyplaness Is it VR capable though? because last time i made This, it didn't qualify for curation
@SuperSuperTheSylph
@ReynaldoIndustries
@Rb2h
@hpgbproductions
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26
ARGHHHHHHHHH frick it early post for everyone even though it's late as heck. All tags are from teasers (Which I'll be deleting soon)
Just tagging people who showed interest. Wanted to know what you think so far. And yes, it does have an actually working start up procedure, but you won't even have to perform it to go, making it AI Friendly. For those wondering, 618 parts and the the perfomance cost is 3000.
@TheMouse
@LunarEclipseSP
@Saturn0
@SuperSuperTheSylph
@ReynaldoIndustries
@Grob0s0VBRa
@Sadboye12
@Chaunhkhoa
@AWESOMENESS360
@TTL
@Rb2h
@Solent19
@YarisSedan
@Pnut
@hpgbproductions
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26
@Boeing727200F Look at it now.
@Boeing727200F BRO I DIDN'T PUT THE IMAGES UP YET
@AnonymousBeater Cheri Cheri Lady
@SouthJetLinhasAereas you're welcome :D
@YarisSedan I don't think the main fuselage needs to go any bigger. I can just raise the seats a little to accomodate for the leg room and cramp it up a little more and you'll have an 8 seater regional prop.
@YarisSedan I will have to rework the central fuselage but it might be doable in a foreseeable future.
Also, it's nice to know it does give off a luxury vibe. I was worried it wouldn't lol
@Pnut thank you!
I should hopefully complete the cockpit tomorrow if I crunch.
It's a good thing I actually enjoy doing cockpit work or this would have been a nightmare. Worst part is I'm already living one and this is working as a temporary escapism xD
reminds me of @otana 's stuff. Pretty cool!
@YarisSedan This one will be permanent tho. I really like it. Thanks for the upvote!
@ReynaldoIndustries I worked on the landing gear so that it's better optimized now. THAT SAID, you'd still end up slammping the nose gear down because of the brakes unless you're a pro Pilot
@RailfanEthan thanks for waiting for 3.5 years for my reply
@ReynaldoIndustries xD
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 alrighty :D
Man I'm so pissed
This is my 2nd attempt and once again the timings here aren't right.
But you see, they were in the editing software I used.
It's just a nitpick, but I hate it it when that happens
Wish I had better non laggy stuff or atleast more stable software for this stuff man.
@DestroyerDJ2 thank you! I'm working on the new Alper rn as well. -- (A newer version of this) Gonna upload a video soon for it. Look forward to it! (And I mean like in 15-20 minutes as well.)
@RailfanEthan based but false infromation
@RobertsAeronautics well, they are finding it now
@DestroyerDJ2 you too. I appreciate all the kind words from the bottom of my heart and promise to keep on chugging like I always have been. I wish the best to you as well.
@Solent19 💀
So two things. One, it's good to know that the Echostar is actually building into a brand and people see it as a complex build
2, yeah. The Echostar has been my one and only high ranking craft that I'll make. It's now become sort of a unifying symbol of all the best builders on SP. I'm not one, but I was fortunate enough to have my design catch the eyes of some or just coincidentally happened to be allowed to use something they invented.
@Solent19 it'll be decent. Look at this for a reference point.
@Graingy understood