@JSTQ oh trust me, I've used many before. I just didn't upload any of those because I was never satisfied using engines as... "Cheats" when you could do the same with actual control surfaces.
The closest I got to using engines is this, which is less engines, more Gyros specifically tuned to be like limiting agents for post stall maneuvers is this
@JSTQ wait, vector engine???? What do you mean? You cant use fakery. You'll lose innovation points AND Realism and believablilty. Be careful. No real plane just has space for tiny engines to make corrections, so unless you have a proper lore explanation, don't risk fakery like that. Make it proper aerodynamic control surfaces that limit those vectors.
@JSTQ you'll just lose points for that particular criteria. That doesn't disqualify you. It just makes it really difficult to win since you automatically made yourself lose 40 or so points.
@MobileBuilder21 we definitely need to have discussions on discord or something along those lines about all of this. I believe other than me, there's 3 others who want in on whatever is going on to because they'll be helping with Upvotes.
I'll be sleeping now. I'll answer your questions early in the morning ASAP. If I don't answer you in time, I'll extend the deadline a little for you specifically.
Challenge STARTS countdown at 00:00 GMT, 21st of April, 2025, ends on 00:00 GMT 16th May, 2025.
@11qazxc for oscillations, I'll be checking if the plane has the adverse effect of using over sensitive limitors and starts oscillation due to over correction at any given speed. Notice how there is no particular speed requirement and it's just so long as it's still plausible (so atleast mach 1.4+... We are making a "next gen" after all)
Perfectly level is just checking pitch, roll and yaw angle when inputs are dead. If it all stays lower than a forgiveable threshold (-+2 degrees), then you get as close as possible to max marks.
@Boeing727200F I added another slide with more clarification on what me saying that means. I'll be a little more careful about stuff like that. Let me know if you see anything else that's not properly clarified.
@ZeroWithSlashedO see, I'm interested in just pushing people to the limit. The Upvotes don't really matters that much to most people who'd participate... It's just a really big prize compared to the usual. As long as you're ready to use your expertise to the max within a 25 days time period, you're good to enter
@Axartar I have a very similar plan actually. Entering itself won't be hard. Getting the prize will be.
If you have anyone else who has the same ideas or interests as you right now, let them know this posts exists. The more of a collaboration I can encourage, the better. This is meant to be the grand bye bye to Simpleplanes 1, after all.
@jamesPLANESii as already stated, it'll either be using alts, if mods say that's okay, or the friends I have who can help. So 100 really becomes 25 across 4 people
As for the bit about setting the bar... Well, this is an ambitious challenge, so for questions like that, I made this post so we can atleast get some discussion started. Maybe you can help with some ideas? My thoughts on that was too keep seperate thresholds for different skill levels and let each entry still get a decent 10-20 upvotes from me alone.
@AndrewGarrison
This is like that meme, the "don't forget me when you become popular"
😭
Thank you for 10 years of a legacy in simpleplanes 1. And also thanks for all the pain from all the wierd bugs too LOL.
Im excited for Simpleplanes 2. (Oh yeah, should mention that this is the same person who made the post, just a different account now.)
@Graingy it's at the back, like a Mig-21. It's not obvious right now but I want to keep it that way because I don't want to fully break their mind with custom exhausts yet
This game is about to start feeling more like a fine wine that has a lot of the things we've been wanting for years over an already almost perfect game...
I am thoroughly impressed, but request the jundroo team to please not rush and take your time with it. Thank you for listening, devs!
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 I've been keeping up with all his posts as well so it's not just you alone.
It's us alone. Throughout all places of Earth, we alone are here to see his planes
@JSTQ oh trust me, I've used many before. I just didn't upload any of those because I was never satisfied using engines as... "Cheats" when you could do the same with actual control surfaces.
The closest I got to using engines is this, which is less engines, more Gyros specifically tuned to be like limiting agents for post stall maneuvers is this
+1@JSTQ wait, vector engine???? What do you mean? You cant use fakery. You'll lose innovation points AND Realism and believablilty. Be careful. No real plane just has space for tiny engines to make corrections, so unless you have a proper lore explanation, don't risk fakery like that. Make it proper aerodynamic control surfaces that limit those vectors.
I should probably also make that a rule
+1@JSTQ you'll just lose points for that particular criteria. That doesn't disqualify you. It just makes it really difficult to win since you automatically made yourself lose 40 or so points.
+1@JSTQ no, but major points increase if is.
+2@JBPAviation all the best 😭
+1@BoredDeffy yeah. I'll make one by tomorrow's time
@MobileBuilder21 we definitely need to have discussions on discord or something along those lines about all of this. I believe other than me, there's 3 others who want in on whatever is going on to because they'll be helping with Upvotes.
first update :
Considering discord server for the challenge.
@DeeganWithABazooka welp, np. I'd say give it a try, there is nothing to lose. Everyone wins 20 upvoted and gets insight about their submission.
@11qazxc also, for the internet thing, I'll put it all in text by tomorrow.
+1@supersuperthesylph
+1@themouse
@jpbaviation
@sircommander031
@silverpanzer
@axartar
@Erionh I'll try my best. Share it with people whom you wanna compete with if you're participating!
I'll be sleeping now. I'll answer your questions early in the morning ASAP. If I don't answer you in time, I'll extend the deadline a little for you specifically.
Challenge STARTS countdown at 00:00 GMT, 21st of April, 2025, ends on 00:00 GMT 16th May, 2025.
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 no problem, encourage those who'd probably want to.
@Boeing727200F you can actually use that if you want. But it has to still be believable, D3.
@11qazxc for oscillations, I'll be checking if the plane has the adverse effect of using over sensitive limitors and starts oscillation due to over correction at any given speed. Notice how there is no particular speed requirement and it's just so long as it's still plausible (so atleast mach 1.4+... We are making a "next gen" after all)
+1Perfectly level is just checking pitch, roll and yaw angle when inputs are dead. If it all stays lower than a forgiveable threshold (-+2 degrees), then you get as close as possible to max marks.
@Boeing727200F I added another slide with more clarification on what me saying that means. I'll be a little more careful about stuff like that. Let me know if you see anything else that's not properly clarified.
+1@Boeing727200F Lmao sure. That's one way to squeeze 20 upvoted out of someone.
@mahoots
+1@beasthunter
@lunareclipseSP
@32
@erionh
@airlinebuilder
@ultravioletblood
@tingly06822
@iamsteve
Tags are from the recent discussion forum post where I stated "Upvoted if you want to be updated when the challenge is out"
@DrakonDynamics this is like the one challenge where literally everyone wins something. Give it a chance.
Or just let your friendoes know it exists. That's fun too. Hope you get to see something nice come Outta this!
I would like to clarify, all tests will be on high physics settings!
Also, all participant builds will be given some love on a forum post once result are out.
As the clock ticks, changes may be made to some of the criteria or rules. If that does happen, more time will be given
@dabestsock which one?
@ZeroWithSlashedO see, I'm interested in just pushing people to the limit. The Upvotes don't really matters that much to most people who'd participate... It's just a really big prize compared to the usual. As long as you're ready to use your expertise to the max within a 25 days time period, you're good to enter
If you're upvoting this, I'm assuming you'd want to be updated when the actual challenge starts.
@Axartar I have a very similar plan actually. Entering itself won't be hard. Getting the prize will be.
+1If you have anyone else who has the same ideas or interests as you right now, let them know this posts exists. The more of a collaboration I can encourage, the better. This is meant to be the grand bye bye to Simpleplanes 1, after all.
@32 wut 😭
@SkyJayTheFirst alright! Good to know! So far this plan seems like a go ahead.
Next... @Crazyplaness
+1Is there anything against using alts to meet a prize pool for a challenge?
@SuperSuperTheSylph @ShinyGemsBro
[WARNING : MAY BE CALLED FALSE GOD AND GET MAULED]
Not that ridiculous, jokes aside (YES, THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS A JOKE). I'm thinking about doing a next gen fighter but with VTOL and air superiority
+1@jamesPLANESii as already stated, it'll either be using alts, if mods say that's okay, or the friends I have who can help. So 100 really becomes 25 across 4 people
As for the bit about setting the bar... Well, this is an ambitious challenge, so for questions like that, I made this post so we can atleast get some discussion started. Maybe you can help with some ideas? My thoughts on that was too keep seperate thresholds for different skill levels and let each entry still get a decent 10-20 upvotes from me alone.
+4@AndrewGarrison
This is like that meme, the "don't forget me when you become popular"
😭
Thank you for 10 years of a legacy in simpleplanes 1. And also thanks for all the pain from all the wierd bugs too LOL.
Im excited for Simpleplanes 2. (Oh yeah, should mention that this is the same person who made the post, just a different account now.)
I'm the 150th.
Omg hiiiii it's meeeee Greggory!
+1@Graingy it's at the back, like a Mig-21. It's not obvious right now but I want to keep it that way because I don't want to fully break their mind with custom exhausts yet
@IFVuser it does!
+2Wanna get tagged when they upload it? I'll probably do the screenshots for them.
@OnyxMikiTx
Hehehehehe
Shit... This feels like a personal attack 💀😭
+1@TheMouse thanks man. That helps out a little. I'll see if I can do that later. Again, Thanks!
+1@Noname918181818181818181 TRUE.
+1aw man, congrats on the big hundo, real proud of this!
+1@AeroTactical thank you!
WHYYYY DOES IT BLOW UP DOH
This game is about to start feeling more like a fine wine that has a lot of the things we've been wanting for years over an already almost perfect game...
I am thoroughly impressed, but request the jundroo team to please not rush and take your time with it. Thank you for listening, devs!
+3@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 I've been keeping up with all his posts as well so it's not just you alone.
It's us alone. Throughout all places of Earth, we alone are here to see his planes
Very noice.
@MIGFOXHOUND31BSM26 brother.
Brother you need a reality check, brother (jk I know you've been active with him way longer than me)
Rockot