Aye, @DeidaraEnterprises, considering how often this kinda thing happens, we need to develope a sorta "Ordinance Geneva Convention" to decide the maximum size and power of free fall and ICBM ordinance.
I quite understand the oddity it is of trading equipment instead of up and buying it. Not something too common really.
But, if you were interested in such a trade, Ostpreußen does have a small variety of equipment that might peek your interest.
@WarHawk95
There is available space near Königsberg where you could set up an HQ. It has a "direct" route of access to the largest port in Ostpreußen, just south of the city center.
I also feel the nature of your Corporation would be well suited when stationed in our fair kingdom, as a sizeable portion of exports are already of weapon and similar equipment.
I'd be willing to trade a couple (at least 2) armored vehicles or aircraft in exchange for one of your jets.
I do have a couple to choose from, if you'd like to see
@HarryBen47
Alright, they'll arrive two days each month.
I'd say have the money for ores ready by the time the two freighters ship off with the cargo next Tuesday. The one-time shipment 2500lbs of titanium will also arrive with the iron and ore.
@QuantausAviation
Alright, sounds excellent.
I'll set up dates for two Panamax freighters to send 30,000 tons of iron and coal twice a month, every month for 3 years.
Iron = 1,989,600 Euros
Coal = 915,000 Euros
Hmmm, considering thats pretty pricey, 2,904,600 total... keep this between me and you, but I'll only charge that yearly with the 300,00 total shipping cost, just because you're such a small country
This sound fair?
@QuantausAviation
yeah, I know, I'm the one doing all of it...
Lets just settle with two shipments per month. How many Imperial tons of coal and iron would you like those two days per month?
@QuantausAviation
Alright, I'll get to work figuring a cost per shipment of each ore, how many shipments monthly and how much ore for a quota, then figure transport for the titanium. Geez, too much math...
@QuantausAviation
If conversion serves right, there's 5000lbs of Titanium, all refined to 5lb ingots.
Total all that with the cost of titanium, as well as shipping on a Panamax, would equal to 223,150 Euros for the entire stockpile.
Coal and iron, meanwhile, depends on how much you'd wish supplied back and forth, and for how long
@QuantausAviation
I do recall their being a small stockpile of titanium that hasn't been sold yet [refined ingots], as well as a couple coal and iron mines you could be supplied from.
@QuantausAviation
Ah, that depends on what you'd wish to trade.
If I find it agreeable, I'll be sure to send good word of your country to the Monarchs.
@QuantausAviation
I'm not doubting your military strength or activity in any war, it's just preferable to appease the Monarchs and keep any foreign contact -outside any sort of arms deals and basic peacekeeping- to a "respectable level".
@Aeromen
Well good to know. I wouldn't exactly reccomend such a thing, nowhere remotely as a threat of power/war or any of the such, but I guess it'll be explained when I make my Country post.
@PlanesofJundroo
That doesn't change the possibility of the absurd amount of metal waste being capable of literally stunting the entire human race from further scientific advancements
@0n33
Considering you've just announced your countryhood, and regrettably have already been declared on by some insensitive neighbor, I'd gladly be able to donate upwards of 250 armored cars, of P.006a-30m type. I'll make sure to tag you in a private post to get a bearing of what you'll recieve.
@blueangelproduction
As good of a feeling as it is to be asked if you'd wanna be given some moderatorship, you really have to show some level of interest in the role for the one giving out the roles to know you'd like it, or something along those lines.
@ChiyomiAnzai
for as advanced as you guys say your countries are, everyone shows anything but...
The railgun, if I'm not mistaken, is very capable of firing across continents in Ace Combat. How? I dunno. Why? Ace Combat.
@HarrisCraft
So, straight ripping a supermassice railgun capable of firing across continents (and probably into space at this point...) from Ace Combat, when current railgun technology is literally in its infancy, and has been for probably over a decade is "somewhat feasible"?
@HarrisCraft
"Fighting fire with fire", while a wonderful means to some ends, is definitely not something to be used in this situation.
If some kid yells they have a billion troops, don't one up them and yell "I have a billion troops and a giant railgun!"
@HarrisCraft
odd to see of all people, you are wanting realism...
I've seen a few times people requesting there needs to be some sorta moderator for the RP, one who'll be unbiased and keeps everyone in check.
For this RP to keep going, without cracking under some petty squabbles about numbers and power, there's going to have to be someone to moderate the RP.
@HarrisCraft
Oh yeah, I well know, I just want people, bystanders, to know I' fed up with this bullcrap. This exact thing is what killed my RP years ago, and I'm not gonna sit back and let it tear apart someone else's.
@ErvenDynamics
If they look anything like they were meant to float in water... You might as well be throwing a brick at the sky and hoping for the best...
Literally any flat surface would cause enough air resistance to destroy the ship just ascending the lower atmosphere
@CptJacobson
The United States attempt at a space plane, the Space Shuttle, is an utter failure when compared to the plan for the shuttle (50 launches were planned yearly for all 6 shuttles, but ended up very quickly to just 4 every year for the entire fleet). A cost effective method of getting large payloads into space, while being almost completely reusable, but eventually ended up as one of the most statistically dangerous space craft, and significantly more expensive than the conventional single-use rockets other countries had (mainly the Soviet Union/Russia)
While the Space Shuttle is nowhere near the size of the ISS, and significantly cheaper, just maintenance bloated its cost over time.
Now, scale that up to the size of whatever warship you have floating in space. Carries large sums of fuel, weapons, extremely heavy armor, and crew of almost 500 people that require somewhere to work, eat, sleep, and perform bodily functions.
Theres no way such a craft could be aerodynamic enough, fuel efficient enough, powerful enough to make it into orbit and still have enough fuel to not require refueling in space, which in itself requires a seperate rocket launch to get the fuel into space to even refuel the ship if it were needing it.
Now, sure, yeah, pull a cop out like technology from 100 years in the future, maybe dark matter or nuclear power (which in itself is significantly too weak to get into space, even with modern technology).
Not to mention that some form of space fleet would be really useless if some form of... oh, I guess some space colony that you probably have.
@CptJacobson
The International Space Station, the largest and longest lasting man-made and artificial object in orbit around space, cost around 150 billion USD... and thats the culmination of over a dozen countries pitching in parts and funding for the station over decades...
Now 35 warships that I presume are larger than the ISS, and we're literally looking at a logistical nightmare; getting parts assembled on Earth in a sterlized workspace, then moving those parts into a shuttle capable of launching large chunks of the warship into space (which alone can cost upwards of a billion per launch, depending on the method used to leave the atmosphere), get the part there without have an admittedly small chance of mishap or unplanned rapid disassembly, just to be assembled in orbit around Earth and hope one of the billions of micro debris in orbit doesn't happen to hit the warship-in-construction and critically damage it.
Just imagine doing this 35 times without a hiccup...
of course you do...
Well, considering it's a massive space fleet, such an endeavour of planning, gathering suplies, building factories and workshops, transporting segments to space, and then building each massive ship would literally have to be a global effort.
But then a glance at how many times each country has been at war with each other, the ability to even assemble these massive ships in space -let alone get them to space- would be virtually impossible without some form of sabotage or blockade.
@CptJacobson
Aye, @DeidaraEnterprises, considering how often this kinda thing happens, we need to develope a sorta "Ordinance Geneva Convention" to decide the maximum size and power of free fall and ICBM ordinance.
I quite understand the oddity it is of trading equipment instead of up and buying it. Not something too common really.
But, if you were interested in such a trade, Ostpreußen does have a small variety of equipment that might peek your interest.
@WarHawk95
Once it becomes available, I'll be sure to notify you.
@Syabil
Considering it's a free fall/gravity bomb in an era of ICBMs, it's likepy more than fair.
@SuperSix
It'd probably be an equivalent to a JDAM if it had some guidance.
@DeidaraEnterprises
maybe a bit overpowered, but it is 6000lbs of weight per bomb
@Lahoski107
Oh, lovely!
Thanks for the position
@Strikefighter04
Alright, I'll be sure to mention the proposal once more about the aircraft is revealed.
@HarryBen47
That would also be quite acceptable,
for sure.
@Lahoski107
There is available space near Königsberg where you could set up an HQ. It has a "direct" route of access to the largest port in Ostpreußen, just south of the city center.
I also feel the nature of your Corporation would be well suited when stationed in our fair kingdom, as a sizeable portion of exports are already of weapon and similar equipment.
I'd be willing to trade a couple (at least 2) armored vehicles or aircraft in exchange for one of your jets.
I do have a couple to choose from, if you'd like to see
@HarryBen47
This seems like quite an interesting aircraft.
Would it be possible to strike up a trade of equipment for one SLA-F10?
Alright, they'll arrive two days each month.
I'd say have the money for ores ready by the time the two freighters ship off with the cargo next Tuesday. The one-time shipment 2500lbs of titanium will also arrive with the iron and ore.
@QuantausAviation
Alright, sounds excellent.
I'll set up dates for two Panamax freighters to send 30,000 tons of iron and coal twice a month, every month for 3 years.
Iron = 1,989,600 Euros
Coal = 915,000 Euros
Hmmm, considering thats pretty pricey, 2,904,600 total...
keep this between me and you, but I'll only charge that yearly with the 300,00 total shipping cost, just because you're such a small country
This sound fair?
@QuantausAviation
That seems like a awfully small amount of each ore, considering the freighters are Panamax.
@QuantausAviation
yeah, I know, I'm the one doing all of it...
Lets just settle with two shipments per month. How many Imperial tons of coal and iron would you like those two days per month?
@QuantausAviation
Alright, I'll get to work figuring a cost per shipment of each ore, how many shipments monthly and how much ore for a quota, then figure transport for the titanium.
Geez, too much math...
@QuantausAviation
If conversion serves right, there's 5000lbs of Titanium, all refined to 5lb ingots.
Total all that with the cost of titanium, as well as shipping on a Panamax, would equal to 223,150 Euros for the entire stockpile.
Coal and iron, meanwhile, depends on how much you'd wish supplied back and forth, and for how long
@QuantausAviation
I do recall their being a small stockpile of titanium that hasn't been sold yet [refined ingots], as well as a couple coal and iron mines you could be supplied from.
@QuantausAviation
Hmm... well, Ostpreußen currently doesn't have much of civillian equipment to trade, unless you're thinking of consumable materials.
@QuantausAviation
Ah, that depends on what you'd wish to trade.
If I find it agreeable, I'll be sure to send good word of your country to the Monarchs.
@QuantausAviation
Well, glad we came to an understanding of each others association.
Lets hope the relationship becomes beneficial for the both then.
@Aeromen
I'm not doubting your military strength or activity in any war, it's just preferable to appease the Monarchs and keep any foreign contact -outside any sort of arms deals and basic peacekeeping- to a "respectable level".
@Aeromen
Becoming "loose" allies would suit best, as the Monarchs would prefer to not get involved with any foreign wars.
@Aeromen
As long as Ostpreußen isn't roped into an alliance, I'd be glad to reciprocate this kindness to your fair country.
@Aeromen
@BlueCitrus, here's the official post.
As grateful for the invite, I'll have to pass on the offer.
@PlanesofJundroo
Well good to know. I wouldn't exactly reccomend such a thing, nowhere remotely as a threat of power/war or any of the such, but I guess it'll be explained when I make my Country post.
@PlanesofJundroo
Hmmm??
@PlanesofJundroo
Until I get an official post up, just go with my country being Prussian.
@BlueCitrus
That doesn't change the possibility of the absurd amount of metal waste being capable of literally stunting the entire human race from further scientific advancements
@0n33
Considering you've just announced your countryhood, and regrettably have already been declared on by some insensitive neighbor, I'd gladly be able to donate upwards of 250 armored cars, of P.006a-30m type. I'll make sure to tag you in a private post to get a bearing of what you'll recieve.
@blueangelproduction
As good of a feeling as it is to be asked if you'd wanna be given some moderatorship, you really have to show some level of interest in the role for the one giving out the roles to know you'd like it, or something along those lines.
@ChiyomiAnzai
And under the same presumption, same with demanding.
Though, it's a crapshoot most the time.
@ChiyomiAnzai
Yeah, @Lahoski107, I'm aware.
I have a feeling if that were true, those who demand get told off just as much.
@ChiyomiAnzai
If a position is open, and despite me not being in any capacity active in this RP, I would be grateful to be a moderator for the RP.
@Strikefighter04
for as advanced as you guys say your countries are, everyone shows anything but...
The railgun, if I'm not mistaken, is very capable of firing across continents in Ace Combat. How? I dunno. Why? Ace Combat.
@HarrisCraft
So, straight ripping a supermassice railgun capable of firing across continents (and probably into space at this point...) from Ace Combat, when current railgun technology is literally in its infancy, and has been for probably over a decade is "somewhat feasible"?
@HarrisCraft
Yeah, sure
@HarrisCraft
"Fighting fire with fire", while a wonderful means to some ends, is definitely not something to be used in this situation.
If some kid yells they have a billion troops, don't one up them and yell "I have a billion troops and a giant railgun!"
@HarrisCraft
odd to see of all people, you are wanting realism...
I've seen a few times people requesting there needs to be some sorta moderator for the RP, one who'll be unbiased and keeps everyone in check.
For this RP to keep going, without cracking under some petty squabbles about numbers and power, there's going to have to be someone to moderate the RP.
@HarrisCraft
Yes.
@CptJacobson
I've not gotten a message.
@CptJacobson
HP#9339
@CptJacobson
Oh yeah, I well know, I just want people, bystanders, to know I' fed up with this bullcrap. This exact thing is what killed my RP years ago, and I'm not gonna sit back and let it tear apart someone else's.
@ErvenDynamics
If they look anything like they were meant to float in water...
You might as well be throwing a brick at the sky and hoping for the best...
Literally any flat surface would cause enough air resistance to destroy the ship just ascending the lower atmosphere
@CptJacobson
Then they're basically space planes...
Space planes just don't work well.
The United States attempt at a space plane, the Space Shuttle, is an utter failure when compared to the plan for the shuttle (50 launches were planned yearly for all 6 shuttles, but ended up very quickly to just 4 every year for the entire fleet). A cost effective method of getting large payloads into space, while being almost completely reusable, but eventually ended up as one of the most statistically dangerous space craft, and significantly more expensive than the conventional single-use rockets other countries had (mainly the Soviet Union/Russia)
While the Space Shuttle is nowhere near the size of the ISS, and significantly cheaper, just maintenance bloated its cost over time.
Now, scale that up to the size of whatever warship you have floating in space. Carries large sums of fuel, weapons, extremely heavy armor, and crew of almost 500 people that require somewhere to work, eat, sleep, and perform bodily functions.
Theres no way such a craft could be aerodynamic enough, fuel efficient enough, powerful enough to make it into orbit and still have enough fuel to not require refueling in space, which in itself requires a seperate rocket launch to get the fuel into space to even refuel the ship if it were needing it.
Now, sure, yeah, pull a cop out like technology from 100 years in the future, maybe dark matter or nuclear power (which in itself is significantly too weak to get into space, even with modern technology).
Not to mention that some form of space fleet would be really useless if some form of... oh, I guess some space colony that you probably have.
@CptJacobson
The International Space Station, the largest and longest lasting man-made and artificial object in orbit around space, cost around 150 billion USD...
and thats the culmination of over a dozen countries pitching in parts and funding for the station over decades...
Now 35 warships that I presume are larger than the ISS, and we're literally looking at a logistical nightmare; getting parts assembled on Earth in a sterlized workspace, then moving those parts into a shuttle capable of launching large chunks of the warship into space (which alone can cost upwards of a billion per launch, depending on the method used to leave the atmosphere), get the part there without have an admittedly small chance of mishap or unplanned rapid disassembly, just to be assembled in orbit around Earth and hope one of the billions of micro debris in orbit doesn't happen to hit the warship-in-construction and critically damage it.
Just imagine doing this 35 times without a hiccup...
@CptJacobson
And I assume these are large and imposing warships, no?
@CptJacobson
of course you do...
Well, considering it's a massive space fleet, such an endeavour of planning, gathering suplies, building factories and workshops, transporting segments to space, and then building each massive ship would literally have to be a global effort.
But then a glance at how many times each country has been at war with each other, the ability to even assemble these massive ships in space -let alone get them to space- would be virtually impossible without some form of sabotage or blockade.
@CptJacobson