@MrTyTheGreat did you ever see a shuttle in the hangar? but the most funny thing is that the bfr travel stuff trailer shows pretty much what was originaly planned for the shuttle. a orbiter on topp of a big rocket safety like the apollo programm and a potential for upgrades. every one claims that the victor writes history but the number of idiots that od it is greater: hitler, trump, the usaaf on the shuttle program search it and find it. most funny on all of this was a guy wich planned to bomb people into space and nope its not the orion concept.
@MrTyTheGreat the best option realy (or the best we have at the moment but i dont hink that the EM drive is realy a thing but i digress). its the lightest, has the best thrust to wheigt ratio and allows for both throw away and reusable booster systems with controlablr thust. only downside is that the engines have exactly one part that has a tendency to burn out quick: the pumps and to reuse them you need to dissamble the whole engine. and thats spacexs biggest weakspot: they still need to dissasemble the whole engine to check those buggers. but even that could change with the possible upcommign of piston pumps or electrical pumps in rockets (piston pumps are harder to kill and electrical pumps have a need for a repairdoor next to them).
@SledDriver but i am dont capable of building it. the closest thing is my birdsey mod of the zebra drohne (that thing is hard to kill because it has pinpoint accuracy). did you know that the lifetime of lightbulbs was a mixture of a trust and laziness?
@SledDriver small question: did you think that is is possible to build a composite beam in sp? ok not two diferent colored beams but two or more beams meeting at the point of earliest contact (its around 1.6 miles in front of the plane).
@MrTyTheGreat the boosters weren controlable because they used solid fuels. you cant controll solid fuel bosters. and stabilizing is also not possible with them. so dont count this as problems because this is theyr nature by build.
and yes i know that this is more the result of a pissing kontest in the industrie but he could try to push for a standard that would speed up things. also i am not sure if the mega factory is a good idea when you compare it with other industries in the vehicle sektor. but thats only some small thought.
@MrTyTheGreat they fired the n1 with all engines thats my point there are videos of this thing crashing. and he still uses turbopumps nothing against them but vibrations can still kill them of. also did you know that the space shuttle had only one throw away part? the tank was disposable and i am not shure but it looks a bit like that the space shuttle was actualy a single stage launcher. fun fact beside this: the bfr travel thing animation shows a space shuttle like it was planned before the airforce interveened. and the claim 45 minutes to every where turns it into : please let me live (rocket fuel is super explosive and to have a fueled rocket fire ready is better done with small rockets like icbms or with other words: to make it better tkae your seat wait for hours start)).
@SledDriver i noticed something about musk that he does totaly wrong: he is the biggest electric car manufacturer at the moment but he does nothing to change the market. what is the biggest problem at the moment? charging times. whats the easiest way to deal with them? build the cars with easy changeable batterie packs and set the whole recharging network up in such a way that this batterie swap cuold be done when needed. rent out the batteries and give out the patent to every one to use. fun fact: it works look falter e-bikes from switzeland does this akku swaping thing.
@MrTyTheGreat the bigest problem that i can see with the bfr is that it has the potential to end up like the biggest rocket flop of all time. the soviet moon rocket used tried and testet engines.... and never worked at all because they managed to somehow get the rocket into vibrating in its own kill frequency wich means: the rocket starts, the rocket start to vibrate a bit, one engine fails one minute later every engine is dead.
@MrTyTheGreat the bigest problem that i can see with the bfr is that it has the potential to end up like the biggest rocket flop of all time. the soviet moon rocket used tried and testet engines.... and never worked at all because they managed to somehow get the rocket into vibrating in its own kill frequency wich means: the rocket starts, the rocket start to vibrate a bit, one engine fails one minute later every engine is dead.
@SledDriver trump cuts nasas funding. thats a great oportunity. and throwing stuff and look if it stick is the best metaphore for sciene that exists. normaly people think that eureka means scitific discovery but in reality the marker for some thing that could be great if done better is hum thats strange. best example: unboiling eggs (thats possible and it was done they get the ig nobel prize for it).
@MrTyTheGreat the idea os esa explained: the rockets themlseves are only big presure tanks so they are dort cheap but a bit weak because of the fact that most disposable rockets a build so thin that they cruble without fuel. seas idea: build aplane arount the engine (or modified for falcon nine. around the engine block) and let this thing land. the rest is light/weak to make the way back. also you can utilise atmospheric drag to brake. musks idea: build a super hughe rocket that has potetial problems with the fuel capacity because it can land and is probably over engineered when ready. it happened and humans are incapable of learining from past mistakes.
@SledDriver and to musk himself: yes i sayd he has a lot of luck because of some idiots in the us government that screw down nasas funding so much that it was easier for him to get the rocket builder from them. but on the perosnality level i think he is the sort of guy wo talks every idea he wants to do and then trows something to the ceiling on looks if it sticks. great for research but the rest will be shown by time. who will win the race to mars? musk or bezoss (bezoss operates like nasa so he even puts turtles on the logo of his space company musk has a head start but he will lose momentum and thats the moment when every thing could change. moon race the soviets hat the total headstart but overengineered their rocket).
@SledDriver as an answer. edison killed someone with x-rays because he thought that roentgen was stupid because he could have made a ton of money but only wanted the best for humanity. and the three point seat belt is a patent by volvo but they give the right to use to every car manufacturer for free. the model to take money for every thing has one weakness: it looks dirt cheap when in the long run someone discovers that your entire work is stolen. musk hired the ingenieurs for spacex from other groups but his strenght is that trump exists (or the republican party of today) because he (trump) and a lot of likeminded individuals have the tendency to cripple founds for research and thats the thing of nasa. or with other words: he (musk) has at least a good portion of luck. but i wouldnt say that every idea of him is absolutely brilliant (boring company reinventing the subway by adding more lifts and more cars. sound great but it it isnt realy. but it gets beaten by solar roadways realy the chinese road closed becaus of theft? nope the panels broke down in only a week).
@SledDriver another posibility: his mother trained him to be a busines man but what if he isnt that type he was raised to but only your typical super nerd? would explain why most of his ideas are rewarmed and most of his followers are nerds themselves with specialists on the other side. it would at least explain why his business ventures arent profitable at all but still super sounding. like his boring company that only has two plans: make the worlds most useless subway and build a tunnel drill that is comicaly small.
@SledDriver he still thinks that edison is the better perosn because he wanted money for his inventions. and thats wrong on so many levels (because it leads to deaths. realy the best three inventions i can think of are the seatbelt, x-rays and ac current. all three are partialy public domain or patented only to prevent edisonism. fun fact: every thing that goes into his hyperloop test track is from spacex).
@SledDriver he is nerdy but on the same time he claims to invent but only buys or reinvent what was before (vac trains, electric high speed cars and reusable long range balistic systems). he also disregards safety rules set by workers not politicians or companys (this beep things on forklifts) and makes claims that are ridiclous. so what is he? at the business level the next edison and thats super questionable.
@SledDriver but not a tank that was suposed to fly to the battle and start to fight on the ground as a vehicle. flying tanks in plane shape are called ground attack aircraft or gunship but a real flying battle tank is best called dumb (^.^)/. only a short qusetion: what does you think about elon musk savier or bond villian?
@MrTyTheGreat spacex didnt invented its rocket. they simply bought some guys and they arent even that succesfull it looks like a victory but they still operate on a big loss. also his world view is that good ideas need a price tag (tesla is dumb because he didnt wanted a price for his electricity grid. his role model is by the way one of the most bond vilenous persons ever). i have my doubt that spacex will win the race against slownsteady. tortoise (i dont like the word we germans use the same word for both with a simple sea or land on it to mark the habitat but i digress) will beat the hare. he wasnt the first to get an electric car on high speeds (first 100 km/h car was electric) and he disregards safety for the sole purpose of a victory. i am not shure if we look at a savoir or a bond villain. and yes i am a fan of thunderf00t but i like the video about the juicero press more than most of his musk clips.
@MrTyTheGreat the first reused engine (not the rocket body itself) was used this year. the guy might be a genuis but he isnt a inventor only a sales man look up vac trains to see what i mean.
@MrTyTheGreat the problem of the falcon is that musk hasnt even delivered yet (realy there was only a hand full of reused rockets on his list yet. they needed more time than the space shuttle to refurbish their rockets).
@MrTyTheGreat and here comes the esa concept to build a plane around the engine (yupp thats the idea you would loose some money but it only needs one or two chutes).
@Rodrigo110 @SledDriver there was one a real flying tank. it was to fat to fly so that it could only fly without ammo or fuel, the armor ot he tank was weaker because it neede to be light weight and a tank has very bad aerodynamics. one of the studest things ever done in human history.
and its still the ugly duckling it ever was. cool in concept but ugly in design (i dont mean the replica i mean the plane its based on. you cant fix the optix if the original wasnt good looking from the start but still a nice build).
@MrTyTheGreat there is a company out there who wants to build a space plane and if this works the need for rockets would decrease. that was the plan for the space shuttle before the airforce intervened. ok not to build a single stage launcher but to decrease the need for rockets the space shuttle was basicaly the baby of the silbervogel bomber before the intervention. oh and the only part on a rocket that is realy neccessary is the engine and that was in the end the cost killer on the shuttle (the engine refurbishment).
@agnanSatrio fliegende festung is fitting but kanonenboot would have worked too. the problem is that the google translate translates gunship with kampfhubschrauber but gun ship also fits to the ac130 gunship.
wow the first one on the site that get the fact that zepelin isnt a type of craft. yay! thumps up for you. realy am german and i know a lot about germanian stuff like that the well known do335 is in fact not a fighter but a bomber instead (it has a bombbay) or that the horten ho229 was never called h229 but in reality horten ho9 because it was the 9th plane form them. the 229 is from the mafuacturing plant and the productname was planned to be gotha go229.
@agnanSatrio uhm thats no helicopter. thats a single wing plane. and if you want to know from where i get the info: i am german and kampfhubschrauber translates to attack helicopter. besides this flaws its good.
@InternationalAircraftCompany its one of the possible translation but it can also mean crazy idiot. i am german we have over 20 words for idiot and more than 3 for carpet. dont forgett that:).
@InternationalAircraftCompany @Mostly @InternationalAircraftCompany thanks for the help but has someone of you any idea how to trasnlate the german word spinner into english? the problem is that this also means a propeller part.
@MrTyTheGreat did you ever see a shuttle in the hangar? but the most funny thing is that the bfr travel stuff trailer shows pretty much what was originaly planned for the shuttle. a orbiter on topp of a big rocket safety like the apollo programm and a potential for upgrades. every one claims that the victor writes history but the number of idiots that od it is greater: hitler, trump, the usaaf on the shuttle program search it and find it. most funny on all of this was a guy wich planned to bomb people into space and nope its not the orion concept.
@MrTyTheGreat the best option realy (or the best we have at the moment but i dont hink that the EM drive is realy a thing but i digress). its the lightest, has the best thrust to wheigt ratio and allows for both throw away and reusable booster systems with controlablr thust. only downside is that the engines have exactly one part that has a tendency to burn out quick: the pumps and to reuse them you need to dissamble the whole engine. and thats spacexs biggest weakspot: they still need to dissasemble the whole engine to check those buggers. but even that could change with the possible upcommign of piston pumps or electrical pumps in rockets (piston pumps are harder to kill and electrical pumps have a need for a repairdoor next to them).
uhm what is not ok?
sorry buddy but the volcano island is called krakabloa (as a callback to krakatoa).
@SledDriver did you get what everplay is? i dont know what they are or are they the servers for the multiplayer mod?
@SledDriver did you get what everplay is? i dont know what they are or are they the servers for the multiplayer mod?
@SledDriver but i am dont capable of building it. the closest thing is my birdsey mod of the zebra drohne (that thing is hard to kill because it has pinpoint accuracy). did you know that the lifetime of lightbulbs was a mixture of a trust and laziness?
@SledDriver small question: did you think that is is possible to build a composite beam in sp? ok not two diferent colored beams but two or more beams meeting at the point of earliest contact (its around 1.6 miles in front of the plane).
@MrTyTheGreat the boosters weren controlable because they used solid fuels. you cant controll solid fuel bosters. and stabilizing is also not possible with them. so dont count this as problems because this is theyr nature by build.
@_@ what?
and yes i know that this is more the result of a pissing kontest in the industrie but he could try to push for a standard that would speed up things. also i am not sure if the mega factory is a good idea when you compare it with other industries in the vehicle sektor. but thats only some small thought.
@BaconEggs realy i have problems finding keys.
@BaconEggs sorry i have german keybord with english layout.
@MrTyTheGreat they fired the n1 with all engines thats my point there are videos of this thing crashing. and he still uses turbopumps nothing against them but vibrations can still kill them of. also did you know that the space shuttle had only one throw away part? the tank was disposable and i am not shure but it looks a bit like that the space shuttle was actualy a single stage launcher. fun fact beside this: the bfr travel thing animation shows a space shuttle like it was planned before the airforce interveened. and the claim 45 minutes to every where turns it into : please let me live (rocket fuel is super explosive and to have a fueled rocket fire ready is better done with small rockets like icbms or with other words: to make it better tkae your seat wait for hours start)).
@SledDriver i noticed something about musk that he does totaly wrong: he is the biggest electric car manufacturer at the moment but he does nothing to change the market. what is the biggest problem at the moment? charging times. whats the easiest way to deal with them? build the cars with easy changeable batterie packs and set the whole recharging network up in such a way that this batterie swap cuold be done when needed. rent out the batteries and give out the patent to every one to use. fun fact: it works look falter e-bikes from switzeland does this akku swaping thing.
@MrTyTheGreat the bigest problem that i can see with the bfr is that it has the potential to end up like the biggest rocket flop of all time. the soviet moon rocket used tried and testet engines.... and never worked at all because they managed to somehow get the rocket into vibrating in its own kill frequency wich means: the rocket starts, the rocket start to vibrate a bit, one engine fails one minute later every engine is dead.
@MrTyTheGreat the bigest problem that i can see with the bfr is that it has the potential to end up like the biggest rocket flop of all time. the soviet moon rocket used tried and testet engines.... and never worked at all because they managed to somehow get the rocket into vibrating in its own kill frequency wich means: the rocket starts, the rocket start to vibrate a bit, one engine fails one minute later every engine is dead.
@SledDriver trump cuts nasas funding. thats a great oportunity. and throwing stuff and look if it stick is the best metaphore for sciene that exists. normaly people think that eureka means scitific discovery but in reality the marker for some thing that could be great if done better is hum thats strange. best example: unboiling eggs (thats possible and it was done they get the ig nobel prize for it).
quadruped not cuadruped.
it exists a type of model plane with this name. the look like lawn mowers but the grip his the elevator.
this plane has been featured. you eraned it bro you ernaed it.
@MrTyTheGreat the idea os esa explained: the rockets themlseves are only big presure tanks so they are dort cheap but a bit weak because of the fact that most disposable rockets a build so thin that they cruble without fuel. seas idea: build aplane arount the engine (or modified for falcon nine. around the engine block) and let this thing land. the rest is light/weak to make the way back. also you can utilise atmospheric drag to brake. musks idea: build a super hughe rocket that has potetial problems with the fuel capacity because it can land and is probably over engineered when ready. it happened and humans are incapable of learining from past mistakes.
@SledDriver and to musk himself: yes i sayd he has a lot of luck because of some idiots in the us government that screw down nasas funding so much that it was easier for him to get the rocket builder from them. but on the perosnality level i think he is the sort of guy wo talks every idea he wants to do and then trows something to the ceiling on looks if it sticks. great for research but the rest will be shown by time. who will win the race to mars? musk or bezoss (bezoss operates like nasa so he even puts turtles on the logo of his space company musk has a head start but he will lose momentum and thats the moment when every thing could change. moon race the soviets hat the total headstart but overengineered their rocket).
@SledDriver as an answer. edison killed someone with x-rays because he thought that roentgen was stupid because he could have made a ton of money but only wanted the best for humanity. and the three point seat belt is a patent by volvo but they give the right to use to every car manufacturer for free. the model to take money for every thing has one weakness: it looks dirt cheap when in the long run someone discovers that your entire work is stolen. musk hired the ingenieurs for spacex from other groups but his strenght is that trump exists (or the republican party of today) because he (trump) and a lot of likeminded individuals have the tendency to cripple founds for research and thats the thing of nasa. or with other words: he (musk) has at least a good portion of luck. but i wouldnt say that every idea of him is absolutely brilliant (boring company reinventing the subway by adding more lifts and more cars. sound great but it it isnt realy. but it gets beaten by solar roadways realy the chinese road closed becaus of theft? nope the panels broke down in only a week).
@SledDriver another posibility: his mother trained him to be a busines man but what if he isnt that type he was raised to but only your typical super nerd? would explain why most of his ideas are rewarmed and most of his followers are nerds themselves with specialists on the other side. it would at least explain why his business ventures arent profitable at all but still super sounding. like his boring company that only has two plans: make the worlds most useless subway and build a tunnel drill that is comicaly small.
@SledDriver he still thinks that edison is the better perosn because he wanted money for his inventions. and thats wrong on so many levels (because it leads to deaths. realy the best three inventions i can think of are the seatbelt, x-rays and ac current. all three are partialy public domain or patented only to prevent edisonism. fun fact: every thing that goes into his hyperloop test track is from spacex).
@SledDriver im not anti musk btw im am anti edison if you want to make a list of the top 5 evilest guys he would be the 5th place.
@SledDriver he is nerdy but on the same time he claims to invent but only buys or reinvent what was before (vac trains, electric high speed cars and reusable long range balistic systems). he also disregards safety rules set by workers not politicians or companys (this beep things on forklifts) and makes claims that are ridiclous. so what is he? at the business level the next edison and thats super questionable.
@SledDriver but not a tank that was suposed to fly to the battle and start to fight on the ground as a vehicle. flying tanks in plane shape are called ground attack aircraft or gunship but a real flying battle tank is best called dumb (^.^)/. only a short qusetion: what does you think about elon musk savier or bond villian?
@MrTyTheGreat spacex didnt invented its rocket. they simply bought some guys and they arent even that succesfull it looks like a victory but they still operate on a big loss. also his world view is that good ideas need a price tag (tesla is dumb because he didnt wanted a price for his electricity grid. his role model is by the way one of the most bond vilenous persons ever). i have my doubt that spacex will win the race against slownsteady. tortoise (i dont like the word we germans use the same word for both with a simple sea or land on it to mark the habitat but i digress) will beat the hare. he wasnt the first to get an electric car on high speeds (first 100 km/h car was electric) and he disregards safety for the sole purpose of a victory. i am not shure if we look at a savoir or a bond villain. and yes i am a fan of thunderf00t but i like the video about the juicero press more than most of his musk clips.
@MrTyTheGreat the first reused engine (not the rocket body itself) was used this year. the guy might be a genuis but he isnt a inventor only a sales man look up vac trains to see what i mean.
@SledDriver but it works. thats the diefference.
@MrTyTheGreat the problem of the falcon is that musk hasnt even delivered yet (realy there was only a hand full of reused rockets on his list yet. they needed more time than the space shuttle to refurbish their rockets).
@MrTyTheGreat and here comes the esa concept to build a plane around the engine (yupp thats the idea you would loose some money but it only needs one or two chutes).
@Rodrigo110 @SledDriver there was one a real flying tank. it was to fat to fly so that it could only fly without ammo or fuel, the armor ot he tank was weaker because it neede to be light weight and a tank has very bad aerodynamics. one of the studest things ever done in human history.
@SledDriver the name bin chicken stamms form the fact that it has a tendency to raid bins.
@darkhawk138 thx.
i think the reason for the friendly said problematic look is the combination of biplane, cropduster and jetplane.
can i try to build a fighter bomber out of it?
and its still the ugly duckling it ever was. cool in concept but ugly in design (i dont mean the replica i mean the plane its based on. you cant fix the optix if the original wasnt good looking from the start but still a nice build).
@MrTyTheGreat there is a company out there who wants to build a space plane and if this works the need for rockets would decrease. that was the plan for the space shuttle before the airforce intervened. ok not to build a single stage launcher but to decrease the need for rockets the space shuttle was basicaly the baby of the silbervogel bomber before the intervention. oh and the only part on a rocket that is realy neccessary is the engine and that was in the end the cost killer on the shuttle (the engine refurbishment).
@agnanSatrio fliegende festung is fitting but kanonenboot would have worked too. the problem is that the google translate translates gunship with kampfhubschrauber but gun ship also fits to the ac130 gunship.
wow the first one on the site that get the fact that zepelin isnt a type of craft. yay! thumps up for you. realy am german and i know a lot about germanian stuff like that the well known do335 is in fact not a fighter but a bomber instead (it has a bombbay) or that the horten ho229 was never called h229 but in reality horten ho9 because it was the 9th plane form them. the 229 is from the mafuacturing plant and the productname was planned to be gotha go229.
@agnanSatrio uhm thats no helicopter. thats a single wing plane. and if you want to know from where i get the info: i am german and kampfhubschrauber translates to attack helicopter. besides this flaws its good.
@MrTyTheGreat thats what the ESA wants to do and i think its the best way because the engine is the only part that realy counts.
@InternationalAircraftCompany its one of the possible translation but it can also mean crazy idiot. i am german we have over 20 words for idiot and more than 3 for carpet. dont forgett that:).
@InternationalAircraftCompany @Mostly @InternationalAircraftCompany thanks for the help but has someone of you any idea how to trasnlate the german word spinner into english? the problem is that this also means a propeller part.
@QingyuZhou why did the left arm vanish?
@QingyuZhou (^.^)/
@QingyuZhou (^.^)/