@BogdanX Thank you for checking this thing out. Good find! I thought they just built it w/out flaps, like a Catalina or something. As for trailing edges, I will dissect a few of your planes, is there anybody else who makes great wings that I should look into?
I'd you already released one "stub" version w/ the original radial. Pick one of the two "long nose" versions and move on to a new plane. But that's just my opinion, they're all very graceful designs and you've clearly got a lot of talent.
@Type2volkswagen XD To my shame, the green one flies a bit better, but thank you. Anyway, this plane is so cool. Do you know anything about the artist who drew it?
@Mustang51 Absolutely. N247, the race winner, crashed and killed its pilot. That's why I made 248 instead. The Italian team lost another pilot and those were just the teams that could get their planes to leave the water. The cockpits were windy, full of gas fumes and hot evaporated castor oil (which causes diarrhea). The pilot of this plane was disqualified because his goggles were so caked in slime he couldn't see the pylon and turned too early, but he still set a course speed record on a later lap.
The British High Speed team was literally the best of the best the RAF had to offer. Same with the Americans, Jimmy Dolittle was their top pilot.
@Mustang51 Yes, that trophy is the real thing. The UK gets to keep it for all time because they won 3 consecutive times, quite an accomplishment.As for WW2 fighters, I heard one pilot say that a good fighter fits like a good suit, you don't fly it, you wear it. Keep in mind tho, the Spit and Cane were both designed with some consideration for reliability and utility in mind. Not so for the S.6, the engine would literally start chewing itself apart after an hour or so because the engine ate oil at an alarming rate, the entire surface of the plane (even both wings) is covered in radiators just to keep the Buzzard-R from overheating. The radiators formed the walls of the cockpit and one pilot remarked it was "like an extremely hot Turkish bath."
@Treadmill103 Yeah. It's the wind drag that always gets me, by the time I get the motor strong enough to overcome the drag to get a proper top speed, the acceleration is crazy fast, then I gotta increase the mass 5x, then the wings to lift the mass, then the controls to fix the wings. I'm getting used to it, though.
@Mustang51 Man, you are reading my mind! Those floats are a real pain, but it is nice to be able to land almost everywhere. The Schneider Cup rules stated the plane had to sit in the harbor for 6 hours and fly the race with any water that had accumulated from leaks.
As for flying it, it must've been a thrill. Pilots praised the S.6's handling. But it is important to remember how monstrously uncomfortable those cockpits were: thr engine sprayed oil like mad (liters of it every minute) and there was little consideration for safety or comfort.
@Treadmill103 Thank you for noticing the handling. It took me longer to get it flying properly than it did to get it looking right. Seaplanes are tricky.
@Mustang51 I know that plane! S.6B S1595 was the first plane ever to crack 400mph. She's the improved model of this one, but I studied quite a few pics of her because they're so similar.
@marcox43 Actually, I was hoping people would see this one and be inspired to build more Schneider planes. My next plane will be a land plane, either American or British, I haven't decided yet.
@CRJ900Pilot This plane was built to win the 1929 Schneider Cup seaplane race. I have links in the description to the wiki about the race but I also put link to a pinterest page full of photos of other planes from the various Schneider races. Here
@CRJ900Pilot THANKS! I just hope people like it, and some of the really heavy-duty builders make some other Schneider Cup racers. There are quite a few awesome looking planes that were built for this race.
@Testin123 @jamesPLANESii Aw come on, that disclaimer is amazing. Like you're at the dealership about to sign the papers and the guy is like "Oh, and NEVER, EVER try to turn or you will immediately DIE."
@QingyuZhou Ok, but the math. I mean, you have to figure out how many faces to make, what angle to use, how much overlap, how much to offset each new piece. Do you just use a big solid fuselage as a guide or what?
The bad handling is due to your center of lift being too far forward. You can shrink your wings using overload and hide them inside the fuselage further back.
@Lahoski107 Well, when it slows down there are tools within windows that will show what resources are running thin. Hitting CTRL ALT DELETE should bring up the task manager, and from there you can look for a tab called PERFORMANCE. The performance tab should be full of graphs that show how much memory, storage, processor power etc. is being used, if one of them is REALLY high up, then either something is using too much, or you need to somehow get more.
@Lahoski107 OK, I don't know anything about your computer, but that took a LOT longer than it should have. That wouldn't bother me so much, but you mentioned that it was new. New computers shouldn't be quite that slow. Was there a lot of downloading patches or something? I could see how updates might slow things down.
@Lahoski107 Assuming your hardware is working properly, less than 2 hours. Possibly much faster. But if you've got hardware issues, it might take much longer, or not finish.
@Minecraftpoweer Exactly. Just having a visible cockpit block at all usually signals to people that you haven't spent much time on that particular build.
@BogdanX Thank you for checking this thing out. Good find! I thought they just built it w/out flaps, like a Catalina or something. As for trailing edges, I will dissect a few of your planes, is there anybody else who makes great wings that I should look into?
@Gestour Yup, 1920-1939. Why?
@Bogdanx Thoughts? Criticism?
I'd you already released one "stub" version w/ the original radial. Pick one of the two "long nose" versions and move on to a new plane. But that's just my opinion, they're all very graceful designs and you've clearly got a lot of talent.
I'm sure crew familiarity and parts supply also plays into it.
You're getting my upvote because that is a really clever screenshot.
You should def get a solid state drive, much faster, much more reliable, and they are finally affordable.
@zealt Yup, but even a fly has six legs. A good example to use would be heavy lift choppers like the Mi-26 or the Super Stallion
@Type2volkswagen Its a hell of a find. You ever check out ConceptShips blog?
@zealt Be sure to spend some time on landing gear, bigger ships means tougher gear.
@Type2volkswagen XD To my shame, the green one flies a bit better, but thank you. Anyway, this plane is so cool. Do you know anything about the artist who drew it?
I like the concept
@Mustang51 Absolutely. N247, the race winner, crashed and killed its pilot. That's why I made 248 instead. The Italian team lost another pilot and those were just the teams that could get their planes to leave the water. The cockpits were windy, full of gas fumes and hot evaporated castor oil (which causes diarrhea). The pilot of this plane was disqualified because his goggles were so caked in slime he couldn't see the pylon and turned too early, but he still set a course speed record on a later lap.
The British High Speed team was literally the best of the best the RAF had to offer. Same with the Americans, Jimmy Dolittle was their top pilot.
This thing looks awesome. I love all the little details like the homemade radial engine and pilot goggles. You can't do steampunk without goggles LOL
Your build kungfu is very strong.
+1You've got a good eye for detail
+1Daaaang!
@Mustang51 Yes, that trophy is the real thing. The UK gets to keep it for all time because they won 3 consecutive times, quite an accomplishment.As for WW2 fighters, I heard one pilot say that a good fighter fits like a good suit, you don't fly it, you wear it. Keep in mind tho, the Spit and Cane were both designed with some consideration for reliability and utility in mind. Not so for the S.6, the engine would literally start chewing itself apart after an hour or so because the engine ate oil at an alarming rate, the entire surface of the plane (even both wings) is covered in radiators just to keep the Buzzard-R from overheating. The radiators formed the walls of the cockpit and one pilot remarked it was "like an extremely hot Turkish bath."
+1@Treadmill103 Yeah. It's the wind drag that always gets me, by the time I get the motor strong enough to overcome the drag to get a proper top speed, the acceleration is crazy fast, then I gotta increase the mass 5x, then the wings to lift the mass, then the controls to fix the wings. I'm getting used to it, though.
@Mustang51 Man, you are reading my mind! Those floats are a real pain, but it is nice to be able to land almost everywhere. The Schneider Cup rules stated the plane had to sit in the harbor for 6 hours and fly the race with any water that had accumulated from leaks.
As for flying it, it must've been a thrill. Pilots praised the S.6's handling. But it is important to remember how monstrously uncomfortable those cockpits were: thr engine sprayed oil like mad (liters of it every minute) and there was little consideration for safety or comfort.
+1@Getorge @Tang0Five @Blue0Bull I appreciate the support. Thank you!
Thank for the spotlight @RailfanEthan @Tradmill103 @ProcessedPlAnEs
@MEERKAT978 @RailfanEthan @Benkelmans Thanks guys!
+1@Treadmill103 Thank you for noticing the handling. It took me longer to get it flying properly than it did to get it looking right. Seaplanes are tricky.
@Mustang51 I know that plane! S.6B S1595 was the first plane ever to crack 400mph. She's the improved model of this one, but I studied quite a few pics of her because they're so similar.
+1@marcox43 Actually, I was hoping people would see this one and be inspired to build more Schneider planes. My next plane will be a land plane, either American or British, I haven't decided yet.
@CRJ900Pilot This plane was built to win the 1929 Schneider Cup seaplane race. I have links in the description to the wiki about the race but I also put link to a pinterest page full of photos of other planes from the various Schneider races. Here
@SomeFox I'll try to trim it down. I'll send you a link at some point over the next week.
@Marcox43 Thanks for the spot
@SomeFox Hmmmm. Whats your limit?
@CRJ900Pilot THANKS! I just hope people like it, and some of the really heavy-duty builders make some other Schneider Cup racers. There are quite a few awesome looking planes that were built for this race.
+1@Mumpsy Hey man, thanks for the support
@corsair013 Thanks, I'm glad you like it!
@QingyuZhou Yeah, same. Anyway, impressive job, as always.
@QingyuZhou I have, that's why I'm so puzzled/impressed
@Testin123 @jamesPLANESii Aw come on, that disclaimer is amazing. Like you're at the dealership about to sign the papers and the guy is like "Oh, and NEVER, EVER try to turn or you will immediately DIE."
@QingyuZhou Ok, but the math. I mean, you have to figure out how many faces to make, what angle to use, how much overlap, how much to offset each new piece. Do you just use a big solid fuselage as a guide or what?
How do you get the longitudinal pieces so evenly positioned? Some kind of modeling program, or a graphing calculator or what?
@ScreamingApe Do you have overload? Load up an old plane, click on the wings and set the scale to .1,.1,.1 and youll see what I mean
The bad handling is due to your center of lift being too far forward. You can shrink your wings using overload and hide them inside the fuselage further back.
A 1974 Dodge Monaco Police Special
Dawwwwww, look at this cute lil guy!
+1External validation is a trap best avoided.
+1@Lahoski107 Well, when it slows down there are tools within windows that will show what resources are running thin. Hitting CTRL ALT DELETE should bring up the task manager, and from there you can look for a tab called PERFORMANCE. The performance tab should be full of graphs that show how much memory, storage, processor power etc. is being used, if one of them is REALLY high up, then either something is using too much, or you need to somehow get more.
@Lahoski107 OK, I don't know anything about your computer, but that took a LOT longer than it should have. That wouldn't bother me so much, but you mentioned that it was new. New computers shouldn't be quite that slow. Was there a lot of downloading patches or something? I could see how updates might slow things down.
@Lahoski107 That's pretty slow
How far is it now?
@Lahoski107 Assuming your hardware is working properly, less than 2 hours. Possibly much faster. But if you've got hardware issues, it might take much longer, or not finish.
@Minecraftpoweer Exactly. Just having a visible cockpit block at all usually signals to people that you haven't spent much time on that particular build.
+2@Awsomur Good times