@Zkillerwolfe ahahaha... no, you remember the physic very well. Obviously there is a trick ant it pass the validator. I use rotators to generate propulsion.
But the real meta is another one, that pass the validator and generate so much speed (literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of miles per hour) that need to patialized a lot to achieve a working tournament "glider".
At present my attempt to use this glitch only gets to crash the game.
@Typhlosion130 OK, you have your entry, ant it's maximized. So, it's useless to keep working on it? Nice! Back to drawing board, and start a new proget from scratch.
I did the same thing when my 0.25/0.26 shaker reach his max. Now my entry is a non-shaker 0.24/0.25 seconds.
And keep in mind that this is a game, the pourpose is to give us fun and challenge our minds. going back to drawing board is the way to reach both the results. :)
@Chancey21 :( No, is not. She is very, very old (near 90 years old, I'm 55) and the life is this. But we still fight, and she is present with the brain, so we are still happy.
@Chancey21 Very well for a rotator project, nice work. Slowest by 10 seconds from my shaker, but you are near to draw, and this is a very good thing. I hope you can improve. Did you work on "pitch" of "propeller" to achieve this speed?
@Chancey21 So it is based on rotators. :) Best I achieved with them is 703 mph, far from the speed of my shaker. And if you have a set up for eagle pass, giving 100% thrust it go in reverse, that is funny.
@AircroftDesigin I love it too. :) In italy about half hour is cut away, and the film loose much (the Ripley daughter disapear completely I.E.) but we have the complete version with about 40 minutes in original english, and it's ok.
@AndrewGarrison can you simply ban fuel from planes and check it? No fuel, no shaking. If fuel is present and the tounament "remove" it, the wing shake. If is not present, dont.
@Simpleplaner656 do not delete the shaker, save it. And if it will remain valid, enter it. Sadly a lot of plane will use the glitch, belive me. My one will be one unless a (hopefully) ban.
@TearJerker Planes that use a glitch. According the vibration of wings to obtain a forward push at crazy speed.
you must built a lot of narrow and long wings touching each other and fill them of fuel to made them heavy. The wings start to shake creating a sort of "wave" of wings that act like the fins of some fish. And you can fly vertically at 3/4000 mph. Vertically UP, I mean.
Go back in previous tournament and give a look to the competition.
@Harambe sadly untill Andrew Garrison says "Not allowed" they are. :( And belive me, this is the second eagle pass that I'm asking to ban them. But without a ban, I will enter a shaker again. And hopefully, will win again. ;)
@Simpleplaner656 there are mods that pass the validator and mods that does not. Colors and resize (eccept for resizing engines and fuel tanks) are example of valid mods. Mass changing, COM changing ,drag reduction, fuel and every engine parameters are examples of mods that does NOT pass the validator. Basically nothing that influence the plane performance pass the validator.
@RodWan Interesting the spinning recover folding the wings. For love of truth with the SP mechanic a spinning fall is very rare, and usually the plane recover by itself, but good to know this.
@RodWan As I previously write feel free to ignore this if you want. It's a improved version with most of your suggestion solved eccept for brakes. More realistic I think, but still great as agility and speed.
@BadPilot27 changing parameters directly inside the plane's file. Or using external mod to change them. Some thing are allowed (like no collision, to avoid mid air disasters for both contenders) and some other not (like no drag, or no mass...)
@Chancey21 I have no idea how a script can pre filter shakers, but fuel present. And with no prefilter, the tournament will stop for maybe 10 or 20 times because people would do shakers anyway.
@Chancey21 THey need the mass of the fuel. I think MAYBE can be done with little blocks at wingtips and some deadweight well balanced, but it's really hard, also if would be possible. I tried but never reached the right balance, so I assume with no fuel we would see no shakers.
@Awsomur Ask to andrew (like I'm doing) to ban them. It's simple to code a check. The fuel must be NOT allowed. No fuel, no shaking (do not worry if fuel is removed, if only is in the model before removing, it shake)
@jamesPLANESii you must built a lot of narrow and long wings touching each other and fill them of fuel to made them heavy. The wings start to shake creating a sort of "wave" of wings that act like the fins of some fish. And you can fly vertically at 3/4000 mph. Vertically UP, I mean.
Go back in previous tournament and give a look to the competition.
@Typhlosion130 -Activate1 instead of VTOL
(oh, damn... I can't keep it secret after a friend teach this few weeks agò... I'm too fair, my fault.)
@Typhlosion130 nope. It start when the AG is "deactivate" so... immediately
@Typhlosion130 You can make things happen when the AGs are activated ... or when they are turned off.
@Zkillerwolfe ahahaha... no, you remember the physic very well. Obviously there is a trick ant it pass the validator. I use rotators to generate propulsion.
But the real meta is another one, that pass the validator and generate so much speed (literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of miles per hour) that need to patialized a lot to achieve a working tournament "glider".
At present my attempt to use this glitch only gets to crash the game.
It seem my design have room for more improvements. I can't belive it, but I already lowered my time. :O
@atgxtg exactly as a public one
@Typhlosion130 OK, you have your entry, ant it's maximized. So, it's useless to keep working on it? Nice! Back to drawing board, and start a new proget from scratch.
I did the same thing when my 0.25/0.26 shaker reach his max. Now my entry is a non-shaker 0.24/0.25 seconds.
And keep in mind that this is a game, the pourpose is to give us fun and challenge our minds. going back to drawing board is the way to reach both the results. :)
@randomusername about 2200 mph fixed since first ring to the last one.
@Zkillerwolfe i entered a 25 seconds non shaker plane
@Typhlosion130 i'm pretty sure you will do well. Do not stop to refine your design.
My entry at present to the race in 24 seconds. But not 100% reliable..
@Chancey21 If I may give a suggest, switch from 8 to another (1, 2..) so it deactivate for sure.
Hum... test it in physic = high. On my PC it flies backward.
I'm downloading it to test it. I found an issue in mine, but maybe in the tournament will be ok. But I'm unsure.
@Chancey21 Thanks, thanks lot, mate! :D
FINALLY! I entered a non-shaker and it beat my previous shaker - and it's not a slow one, I winned the previous tournament! :D
@Chancey21 :( No, is not. She is very, very old (near 90 years old, I'm 55) and the life is this. But we still fight, and she is present with the brain, so we are still happy.
I'm asking myself if coanda effect work in sp...
At present i'm at hospital for my mom. Later i will see this plane and show you something mine
@Chancey21 Very well for a rotator project, nice work. Slowest by 10 seconds from my shaker, but you are near to draw, and this is a very good thing. I hope you can improve. Did you work on "pitch" of "propeller" to achieve this speed?
@Chancey21 So it is based on rotators. :) Best I achieved with them is 703 mph, far from the speed of my shaker. And if you have a set up for eagle pass, giving 100% thrust it go in reverse, that is funny.
@Chancey21 So, perfect. :)
@Chancey21 I fear you must do something different, I fear. AG8 never is up in tournaments, and eagle pass in the previous one do not have throttle up.
@AircroftDesigin I have, obviously. :) Italian version with all the missing part in english.
@AircroftDesigin I love it too. :) In italy about half hour is cut away, and the film loose much (the Ripley daughter disapear completely I.E.) but we have the complete version with about 40 minutes in original english, and it's ok.
@JetFly add mass. More mass, more speed.
@AndrewGarrison can you simply ban fuel from planes and check it? No fuel, no shaking. If fuel is present and the tounament "remove" it, the wing shake. If is not present, dont.
@DerekSP yes collision off is allowed
@Harambe do not trash it. I still hope that Andrew will ban shakers.
@Simpleplaner656 do not delete the shaker, save it. And if it will remain valid, enter it. Sadly a lot of plane will use the glitch, belive me. My one will be one unless a (hopefully) ban.
@TearJerker Planes that use a glitch. According the vibration of wings to obtain a forward push at crazy speed.
you must built a lot of narrow and long wings touching each other and fill them of fuel to made them heavy. The wings start to shake creating a sort of "wave" of wings that act like the fins of some fish. And you can fly vertically at 3/4000 mph. Vertically UP, I mean.
Go back in previous tournament and give a look to the competition.
@Harambe sadly untill Andrew Garrison says "Not allowed" they are. :( And belive me, this is the second eagle pass that I'm asking to ban them. But without a ban, I will enter a shaker again. And hopefully, will win again. ;)
@Simpleplaner656 there are mods that pass the validator and mods that does not. Colors and resize (eccept for resizing engines and fuel tanks) are example of valid mods. Mass changing, COM changing ,drag reduction, fuel and every engine parameters are examples of mods that does NOT pass the validator. Basically nothing that influence the plane performance pass the validator.
@RodWan Interesting the spinning recover folding the wings. For love of truth with the SP mechanic a spinning fall is very rare, and usually the plane recover by itself, but good to know this.
@wzr1 weapons not allowed
@sandyshores io sono toscano, di livorno. Bentrovato. :)
@sandyshores Are you italian? Sei italiano?
@sandyshores Just relased.
https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/2QBgez/SNAW-MTPM-02
@RodWan As I previously write feel free to ignore this if you want. It's a improved version with most of your suggestion solved eccept for brakes. More realistic I think, but still great as agility and speed.
@BadPilot27 changing parameters directly inside the plane's file. Or using external mod to change them. Some thing are allowed (like no collision, to avoid mid air disasters for both contenders) and some other not (like no drag, or no mass...)
@RodWan Did you tested my twin engines plane made for you? I love it and I'm working at a new relase with folding wings and more dettails. :)
@RodWan XML modding is not allowed, so I think you cant achieve an infinite rotation.
@Chancey21 I have no idea how a script can pre filter shakers, but fuel present. And with no prefilter, the tournament will stop for maybe 10 or 20 times because people would do shakers anyway.
@Chancey21 THey need the mass of the fuel. I think MAYBE can be done with little blocks at wingtips and some deadweight well balanced, but it's really hard, also if would be possible. I tried but never reached the right balance, so I assume with no fuel we would see no shakers.
@Awsomur Ask to andrew (like I'm doing) to ban them. It's simple to code a check. The fuel must be NOT allowed. No fuel, no shaking (do not worry if fuel is removed, if only is in the model before removing, it shake)
@Awsomur Planes that glitch wings to propel them forward
Below this I post instructions about how to obtain the effect.
@Awsomur Shakers do it in 24/25 seconds if they do not miss rings.
@UssInvincible NP mate.
@jamesPLANESii nope, if you steal a wing and place in the wrong way it does not shake. Follow my instruction below.
@jamesPLANESii you must built a lot of narrow and long wings touching each other and fill them of fuel to made them heavy. The wings start to shake creating a sort of "wave" of wings that act like the fins of some fish. And you can fly vertically at 3/4000 mph. Vertically UP, I mean.
Go back in previous tournament and give a look to the competition.